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#41 2025-12-18 17:13:46

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Re: Carbon TODO

Make sure it's not a picom issue...

pkill picom

Now lock the screen. Same thing?


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#42 2025-12-19 02:57:26

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Re: Carbon TODO

Fresh install, packages upgraded, OOTB lock-screen issue confirmed...

LEKa4hqP_t.png

-edit- pkill picom solves it, I think. It's a picom issue we need to troubleshoot (a transparency exception rule for light-locker, probably).


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#43 2025-12-19 03:01:20

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Re: Carbon TODO

Please, let's use this synclient entry this time so right-click/3-finger click on touchpads is enabled ny default...

synclient VertEdgeScroll=0 VertTwoFingerScroll=1 HorizEdgeScroll=0 TapButton1=1 TapButton2=3 TapButton3=2 PalmDetect=1 PalmMinWidth=4 PalmMinZ=100

I think that's it, one minute for me to confirm...

-edit- That's right, I think.

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#44 2025-12-19 03:08:30

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Re: Carbon TODO

hhh wrote:

Fresh install, packages upgraded, OOTB lock-screen issue confirmed...
https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/62/1e/LEKa4hqP_t.png

I can see it too. neutral

Not a happy discovery, this. There's no such problem on Boron.

We need to look over the various lock-screen options and see where it's coming from.
Previous discussion: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=9515

At worst, we might have to implement a different screen locking utility...


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#45 2025-12-19 03:09:46

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Re: Carbon TODO

See my edit from my scrot post above re: picom/light-locker.


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#46 2025-12-19 03:27:48

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Re: Carbon TODO

OK, I didn't realize picom had a major overhaul. The boron conf is working for me, no transparency on the lock screen.

boron: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Bunse … picom.conf

carbon: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Bunse … picom.conf


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#47 2025-12-19 03:29:57

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^ Quck glance, define active and inactive opacity in the new conf, at least.


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#48 2025-12-19 03:36:08

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Spamming, sorry. Active and inactive opacity both default to one, so that's no help. @dave, can you confirm that killing picom "solves" the issue?

boron picom.conf "works" because it's not starting.

carbon@ghost:~$ picom
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 c2_parse_target WARN ] Type specifier is deprecated. Type "c" specified on target "_GTK_FRAME_EXTENTS" will be ignored, you can remove it.
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 c2_parse_target WARN ] Type specifier is deprecated. Type "a" specified on target "_NET_WM_STATE" will be ignored, you can remove it.
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 c2_parse_target WARN ] Format specifier is deprecated. Format "32" specified on target "_NET_WM_STATE" will be ignored, you can remove it.
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 c2_parse_target WARN ] Type specifier is deprecated. Type "a" specified on target "_NET_WM_STATE" will be ignored, you can remove it.
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 c2_parse_target WARN ] Format specifier is deprecated. Format "32" specified on target "_NET_WM_STATE" will be ignored, you can remove it.
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 c2_parse_target WARN ] Type specifier is deprecated. Type "c" specified on target "_GTK_FRAME_EXTENTS" will be ignored, you can remove it.
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 c2_parse_target WARN ] Type specifier is deprecated. Type "c" specified on target "_GTK_FRAME_EXTENTS" will be ignored, you can remove it.
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 c2_parse_target WARN ] Type specifier is deprecated. Type "a" specified on target "_NET_WM_STATE" will be ignored, you can remove it.
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 c2_parse_target WARN ] Format specifier is deprecated. Format "32" specified on target "_NET_WM_STATE" will be ignored, you can remove it.
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 sanitize_options ERROR ] Backend not specified. You must choose one explicitly. Valid ones are: 
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 sanitize_options ERROR ] 	dummy
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 sanitize_options ERROR ] 	xrender
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 sanitize_options ERROR ] 	egl
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 sanitize_options ERROR ] 	glx
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 session_init FATAL ERROR ] Failed to get configuration, usually mean you have specified invalid options.
[ 12/18/25 22:44:10.700 main FATAL ERROR ] Failed to create new session.

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#49 2025-12-19 04:23:21

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Re: Carbon TODO

hhh wrote:

Make sure it's not a picom issue...

pkill picom

Now lock the screen. Same thing?

Yup, seems to be picom. Disable it from the menu before locking and no transparent desktop visible.

EDIT missed all @hhh's recent stuff before posting this.

hhh wrote:

-edit- pkill picom solves it, I think. It's a picom issue we need to troubleshoot (a transparency exception rule for light-locker, probably).

Last edited by johnraff (2025-12-19 04:26:58)


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#50 2025-12-19 05:31:44

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hhh wrote:

OK, I didn't realize picom had a major overhaul.

Big changes between Bookworm and Trixie. Old picom.conf now breaks compositing. I did a complete makeover a while ago:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=9340
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 18#p142118

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#51 2025-12-19 05:33:56

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hhh wrote:

boron picom.conf "works" because it's not starting.

Boron picom.conf works fine on Boron but breaks on Trixie because picom has changed.


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#52 2025-12-19 05:44:59

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Re: Carbon TODO

This is where the lockscreen transparency is coming from: lines 344 345 in Boron's picom.conf:

  match = "!focused || !group_focused";
  opacity = 0.96;

Change that opacity to 1:00 and it's gone.
So we have to find the right selector to set opacity on LightDM's lockscreen, or if that fails, just give up on the faintly transparent unfocused windows.


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#53 2025-12-19 06:28:10

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Re: Carbon TODO

Try adding this to picom.conf, maybe just under the section that sets 0.96 opacity for unfocused windows:

}, {
  match = "class_g *?= 'screensaver'";
  opacity = 1.0;
}, {

It seems to fix the issue for me.
(The screenlocker window is xfce4-screensaver, not LightdM.)


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#54 2025-12-19 06:39:25

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Re: Carbon TODO

hhh wrote:

Please, let's use this synclient entry this time so right-click/3-finger click on touchpads is enabled ny default...

synclient VertEdgeScroll=0 VertTwoFingerScroll=1 HorizEdgeScroll=0 TapButton1=1 TapButton2=3 TapButton3=2 PalmDetect=1 PalmMinWidth=4 PalmMinZ=100

What we have right now is:

synclient VertEdgeScroll=1 HorizEdgeScroll=1 VertTwoFingerScroll=1 TapButton1=1

and this alternative, commented-out:

#synclient VertEdgeScroll=0 VertTwoFingerScroll=0 HorizEdgeScroll=0 TapButton1=1 TapButton2=3 TapButton3=2 PalmDetect=1 PalmMinWidth=4 PalmMinZ=100

which is what you're suggesting for default, except for enabling VertTwoFingerScroll right?

I'm OK with any of those because I seldom use a touchpad, with the only principle of setting by default what's least likely to confuse and upset new users.

@hhh your decision, unless anyone jumps in to disagree.


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#55 2025-12-19 16:30:02

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Re: Carbon TODO

hhh wrote:

@dave, can you confirm that killing picom "solves" the issue?

Yes, it solves.

I apologize for not being responsive and proactive on this issue, but in the last two days I had not time to connect.

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#56 2025-12-19 16:38:03

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Re: Carbon TODO

johnraff wrote:

Try adding this to picom.conf, maybe just under the section that sets 0.96 opacity for unfocused windows:

}, {
  match = "class_g *?= 'screensaver'";
  opacity = 1.0;
}, {

It seems to fix the issue for me.
(The screenlocker window is xfce4-screensaver, not LightdM.)

It works for me as well. I'm not sure which screenlocker I have, I don't know how to check it. Anyway I haven't changed anything about screenlocker with respect to the installed system.

Thanks!

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#57 2025-12-20 00:43:14

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@Dave75 thanks for confirming the fix worked.
I'll add those lines to picom.conf in the next upgrade of bunsen-configs.


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#58 2025-12-20 01:03:54

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johnraff wrote:
hhh wrote:

Please, let's use this synclient entry this time so right-click/3-finger click on touchpads is enabled ny default...

synclient VertEdgeScroll=0 VertTwoFingerScroll=1 HorizEdgeScroll=0 TapButton1=1 TapButton2=3 TapButton3=2 PalmDetect=1 PalmMinWidth=4 PalmMinZ=100

What we have right now is:

synclient VertEdgeScroll=1 HorizEdgeScroll=1 VertTwoFingerScroll=1 TapButton1=1

and this alternative, commented-out:

#synclient VertEdgeScroll=0 VertTwoFingerScroll=0 HorizEdgeScroll=0 TapButton1=1 TapButton2=3 TapButton3=2 PalmDetect=1 PalmMinWidth=4 PalmMinZ=100

which is what you're suggesting for default, except for enabling VertTwoFingerScroll right?

I'm OK with any of those because I seldom use a touchpad, with the only principle of setting by default what's least likely to confuse and upset new users.

@hhh your decision, unless anyone jumps in to disagree.

I'm trying to enable two finger-click (context-menu window) and three finger-click tapping (open a browser link in a new tab) on touchpads (touchpad scrolling is a bonus). I'm on Wayland these days, where it seems to work OOTB on my hardware, so do what you think is right.


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#59 2025-12-20 03:16:23

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^I don't consider myself qualified to call this one.

If you're reasonably confident your suggested config won't trouble anyone (or many people anyway) then let's apply it.

Can you also suggest a totally vanilla alternative to put in, commented out?


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#60 2025-12-20 03:58:21

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Vanilla - The original line would be fine. Nobody but me has complained so far, as far as I know.


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