Carbon alpha iso available for testing

unklar · 2025-10-05 14:08:55

Greetings from Live-ISO. Everything works right out of the box.
Thank you very much for your work.

johnraff · 2025-10-06 01:19:49

unklar wrote:

Secretly, I always hoped you would join @cog/hatchery. This nearly 2GiB ISO takes ~15 minutes.

That only links to an image, so I can't tell what you are suggesting. Does @cog have a personal web server?

But anyway:

Thank you for wget!

Means it worked OK I guess. The Sourceforge URLs are always usable for direct wget downloads.

Greetings from Live-ISO. Everything works right out of the box.

Thanks for checking it out! There are still some things that need fixing, but I think the basic framework is now in place.

PackRat · 2025-10-06 09:44:05

johnraff wrote:

Does @cog have a personal web server?

He uses a hosting site. Pretty good for doing git work (might be designed specifically for development work) and download speeds are good.

greenjeans · 2025-10-06 16:05:02

unklar wrote:

Greetings from Live-ISO. Everything works right out of the box.
Thank you very much for your work.
https://i.imgur.com/vUMo4Jrt.png

Found the time to download and give it a spin, downloaded from Sourceforge and it was fairly quick, a couple of minutes or so. Tested on a 2012 Compaq with a dual-core APU at 800 mhz and 4 gigs of ram. And i'll echo the above sentiments, everything worked out of the box including auto-connecting to ethernet and applying the correct res for my monitor. Those things may seem like a given, but i've tried a lot of distros in the last year and you'd be surprised how many time one or both of these things was an issue.

I couldn't find any flaws except for someone put the panel in the wrong place, no biggie, it was easy to fix.

Very nice work, congrats to the BL team!

hhh · 2025-10-07 00:04:40

greenjeans wrote:

I couldn't find any flaws except for someone put the panel in the wrong place, no biggie, it was easy to fix.

That'd be me. My initial thought for this back before BL Boron was released was that you never see a cellphone with its taskbar down the side, and a computer monitor is essentially a phone screen in landscape mode, why would you put the taskbar top or bottom? I configured tint2 vertically, I configured xfce4-panel vertically, I configured GNOME]s Dash-to-Panel extension vertically...

I've been using a horizontal taskbar for the last year, though.

johnraff · 2025-10-07 01:51:52

hhh wrote:

greenjeans wrote:
I couldn't find any flaws except for someone put the panel in the wrong place, no biggie, it was easy to fix.
That'd be me...
I've been using a horizontal taskbar for the last year, though.

There's still time to make the default xfce4-panel horizontal.
Either way, we'd want to ship configs for both, I guess?

plemil · 2025-10-07 11:26:59

rusmack wrote:

Installing to disk hangs at "configure the network".
I had the same problem with the current version.
Adding "ipv6.disable=1" to the installer parameters bypasses the problem.

Same issue for me, and as a note I had to put the "ipv6.disable=1" prior to the --- quiet... stuff. Toke me awhile to remember that from previous installs.

But during the grub update I ruined (again) my grub menu, so I´m stuck at "grub rescue" at the moment. Had real issues sorting that up last time, so I will probably not be up running Carbon before the weekend.

Installer looks nice so I´m looking forward to actually boot Bunsen Carbon.

unklar · 2025-10-07 11:56:34

johnraff wrote:

unklar wrote:
Secretly, I always hoped you would join @cog/hatchery. This nearly 2GiB ISO takes ~15 minutes.
That only links to an image, so I can't tell what you are suggesting. Does @cog have a personal web server?

Sorry, I didn't see that.
https://hatcherylinux.org/download/

In the meantime, the ISO has been installed on metal.
Due to my multiboot system, I chose expert mode in text mode, without a boot loader. The main system starts the new kernel via an entry in 40_custom.

So far, there have been no errors here either (except with utf8, as is known, during the first start after installation). One tiny thing is that newly created files (even those with the .txt extension) are only opened with geany after explicit selection and saving (once).

greenjeans · 2025-10-07 18:46:36

johnraff wrote:

hhh wrote:
greenjeans wrote:
I couldn't find any flaws except for someone put the panel in the wrong place, no biggie, it was easy to fix.
That'd be me...
I've been using a horizontal taskbar for the last year, though.
There's still time to make the default xfce4-panel horizontal.
Either way, we'd want to ship configs for both, I guess?

Oh don't mind me, i'm just old and set in my ways and giving y'all a gentle ribbing, panel at the bottom has been my workflow for some 30 years. I see a lot of distros now trying out the side-panel, I guess folks like it. And all the tools to change it were super easy to find and use.

johnraff · 2025-10-08 01:21:24

unklar wrote:

...newly created files (even those with the .txt extension) are only opened with geany after explicit selection and saving (once).

That should not be.

File associations should be installed already (in ~/.config/mimeapps.list) that open txt files with bl-text-editor. If you clicked such a file before changing the preference to geany, what editor opened it?

Also, could you look at menu > System Settings > Edit Debian Alternatives and check what the setting for bl-text-editor is?

Thanks!

johnraff · 2025-10-08 01:25:06

greenjeans wrote:

...panel at the bottom has been my workflow for some 30 years.

Me too, in fact.

I see a lot of distros now trying out the side-panel, I guess folks like it. And all the tools to change it were super easy to find and use.

As you say. But we'll ship both versions anyway, and it would be very easy to make horizontal default again. @hhh what do you think?

johnraff · 2025-10-08 02:21:16

johnraff wrote:

rusmack wrote:
Installing to disk hangs at "configure the network".
I had the same problem with the current version.
Adding "ipv6.disable=1" to the installer parameters bypasses the problem.
I did not have to make any changes when I installed unmodified Debian.
Thanks for reporting this. It does strike a faint memory - I hope we'll get to the bottom of it.

Do a forum search on "ipv6" and many mentions* of this issue come up - it seems to be due to misconfiguration in some routers, and the Debian Installer failing to deal with it.

* eg
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 75#p125075
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 10#p110210
also
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentatio … g/ipv6.rst

rusmack · 2025-10-08 07:54:39

It is a bit confusing, though, that I installed Trixie itself on the same computer and did not run into that problem.
<shrug>

unklar · 2025-10-08 09:46:39

johnraff wrote:

unklar wrote:
...newly created files (even those with the .txt extension) are only opened with geany after explicit selection and saving (once).
That should not be.
File associations should be installed already (in ~/.config/mimeapps.list) that open txt files with bl-text-editor. If you clicked such a file before changing the preference to geany, what editor opened it?
Also, could you look at menu > System Settings > Edit Debian Alternatives and check what the setting for bl-text-editor is?
Thanks!

No one opened it.
So I was surprised to create a .txt file, which was also not opened.
Then I selected geany, which is now always the default.

In ‘Debian Alternatives’, nano is now listed with 25% and geany with 40% (has the point).

hhh · 2025-10-09 00:10:07

johnraff wrote:

greenjeans wrote:
...panel at the bottom has been my workflow for some 30 years.
Me too, in fact.
I see a lot of distros now trying out the side-panel, I guess folks like it. And all the tools to change it were super easy to find and use.
As you say. But we'll ship both versions anyway, and it would be very easy to make horizontal default again. @hhh what do you think?

Sure, easy enough...

johnraff · 2025-10-09 02:57:26

^That looks quite nice in fact.
And the inline systray makes sense there, where there's more horizontal space and less vertical.

johnraff · 2025-10-09 03:08:31

unklar wrote:

johnraff wrote:
File associations should be installed already (in ~/.config/mimeapps.list) that open txt files with bl-text-editor. If you clicked such a file before changing the preference to geany, what editor opened it?
No one opened it.
So I was surprised to create a .txt file, which was also not opened.

You clicked the file, and nothing happened at all? There's something wrong there...

Also, could you look at menu > System Settings > Edit Debian Alternatives and check what the setting for bl-text-editor is?
In ‘Debian Alternatives’, nano is now listed with 25% and geany with 40% (has the point).

Nano should not be in the list for 'bl-text-editor' because it's a terminal app. But perhaps you mean the 'bl-cli-editor' alternative, which indeed by default will bring up nano in a terminal emulator. But geany should have been selected from the beginning, because it has the highest score of the apps that are installed.

But I'll have to do a fresh install from the alpha iso and see if I get the same strange result.

johnraff · 2025-10-09 04:01:08

rusmack wrote:

It is a bit confusing, though, that I installed Trixie itself on the same computer and did not run into that problem.
<shrug>

If you do a web search you'll find many reports of the ipv6 issue with Debian, and the BL isos ship the same installer. So, yes that is a bit confusing.

unklar · 2025-10-09 06:59:27

johnraff wrote:

You clicked the file, and nothing happened at all? There's something wrong there...

No.
A prompt appeared asking me to select which application should open the file.

johnraff wrote:

Nano should not be in the list for 'bl-text-editor' because it's a terminal app. But perhaps you mean the 'bl-cli-editor' alternative, which indeed by default will bring up nano in a terminal emulator. But geany should have been selected from the beginning, because it has the highest score of the apps that are installed.

Yes.
‘bl-cli-editor’ appears.

johnraff · 2025-10-09 08:12:02

^OK thanks for the clarification.
It means that the file association has been missed somewhere. Or else the file is not being recognized as a text file.

Anyway, I'll see what a fresh install does.

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