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#21 2025-02-16 09:45:21

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

Your -F option doesn't work.  I even tried it in a different window manager session with the same result

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#22 2025-02-16 11:24:44

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

Okay, sorry about that. Try the pastebinit package instead or manually upload the journal file to a pastebin site and share the link here or manually paste the command output (using the --no-p option to disable the pager) here directly using [code] tags. Thanks.

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#23 2025-02-16 22:23:18

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

How do I do this with pastebinit?

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#24 2025-02-17 02:52:43

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

Just a quick question here: The aplay -l command is alsa not pulse. And should identify all audio devices, are you sure you have something other than the HDMI card? Is this a laptop or a desktop?

greenjeans<<possibly clueless in this matter, lol. But all I use is ALSA, no pulse or pipe or apulse.

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#25 2025-02-17 07:35:13

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

sudo apt install pastebinit
sudo journalctl | pastebinit # share returned URL here

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#26 2025-02-17 09:47:16

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

greenjeans wrote:

Just a quick question here: The aplay -l command is alsa not pulse. And should identify all audio devices, are you sure you have something other than the HDMI card? Is this a laptop or a desktop?

greenjeans<<possibly clueless in this matter, lol. But all I use is ALSA, no pulse or pipe or apulse.

Yes.  I have a laptop with built in speakers and 3.5mm line in and out jacks

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#27 2025-02-17 10:21:19

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

I did the sudo journalctl | pastebinit thing  it froze the system up.  I had to do a hard shutdown.  Then I rebooted into the Bunsenlabs TTY, ran the same command there and it crashed out

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#28 2025-02-17 17:23:09

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

MarkW wrote:
greenjeans wrote:

Just a quick question here: The aplay -l command is alsa not pulse. And should identify all audio devices, are you sure you have something other than the HDMI card? Is this a laptop or a desktop?

greenjeans<<possibly clueless in this matter, lol. But all I use is ALSA, no pulse or pipe or apulse.

Yes.  I have a laptop with built in speakers and 3.5mm line in and out jacks

Not doubting you but my laptop also has built-in speakers and the line in/out jacks, but it only has one audio device.

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: 92HD81B1X5 Analog [92HD81B1X5 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

Can you reference info about the machine by going to the manufacturer's website? Might be some insight there.

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#29 2025-02-17 17:32:13

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It's a very old machine (HP Elitebook 8460P)

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#30 2025-02-17 19:42:20

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

Oh dear, that journal seems to be cursed, no idea what to do from here hmm

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#31 2025-02-17 20:05:03

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I used some command line jiggery pokery to reduce the size of the journal to 10 megs and finally managed to get a link

https://dpaste.com/H2523PNYQ

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#32 2025-02-18 16:55:06

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

I probably should have suggested

journalctl -b | pastebinit

^ That will only show the journal from the current boot so if you reboot then run that command as soon as the system is back up the output should be short enough not to freeze things up.

We can do this! big_smile

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#33 2025-02-18 17:40:03

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

I used to have one of these laptops and don't recall any particular problems - I'm sure I would remember no sound. Have you tried another distro? Is it possible there are hardware issues?

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#34 2025-02-18 17:53:40

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Hardware issues are very possible.  No idea how to fix them though

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#35 2025-02-18 19:32:00

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#36 2025-02-18 19:56:40

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

\o/

Why do you have snd_hda_intel.dmic_detect=0 set in your kernel command line parameters?

Possibly relevant:

Journal wrote:
Feb 18 19:26:09 Mark-Home kernel: snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: dmic_detect option is deprecated, pass snd-intel-dspcfg.dsp_driver=1 option instead

Not entirely sure what that option actually does, even after reading the description:

~$ modinfo -p snd-intel-dspcfg
dsp_driver:Force the DSP driver for Intel DSP (0=auto, 1=legacy, 2=SST, 3=SOF, 4=AVS) (int)
~$

Does setting that option help? If not try just removing the snd_hda_intel.dmic_detect=0 parameter.

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#37 2025-02-18 20:22:19

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

\o/

Why do you have snd_hda_intel.dmic_detect=0 set in your kernel command line parameters?

I have no idea.   Why do I?

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#38 2025-02-18 20:26:03

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Also, how do I remove that parameter?

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#39 2025-02-18 20:35:01

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

Check /etc/default/grub, it's probably set in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line. Once you remove the parameter regenerate GRUB's configuration file with

sudo update-grub

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#40 2025-02-18 21:09:39

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Re: Pulseaudio Doesn't Know I Have Analog Devices

I did both those things and I still only have stereo and surround digital audio via HDMI

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