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#26 2016-01-23 04:49:45

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

aaand resurrect! Can't go wrong with either a SATA 2.5" SSD ( trust me, you ONLY want 2.5", existing 3.5" SSDs are... eons behind ), or a PCI.

Anyhow, after roughly a month with this 512GB monolith, it's everything I wanted and more. Although I must say an M.2 port on my motherboard would be useful right about now.


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#27 2016-01-23 13:53:30

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

I hardly even think about my SSD, anymore. Except one of my HDD's died and I need to pull the system out and switch the SSD to the dead HDD's SATA-III port. People tell me that that will make it even faster.

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#28 2021-05-07 19:35:24

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

Forgive me for bumping this old thread.

PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD.

M.2 NVMe SSD for the mother board without a dedicated slot. There is a lot of used NVMe to PCIe adaptors on the market. A good one is made by HP. Here's one for $30

https://www.ebay.com/itm/363383603231

NEW Samsung PM981a MZ-VLB256B 256GB $40

https://www.ebay.com/itm/313259774536


But they have locked it to HP machines. However, one can modify it to work on any motherboard with a PCIe X4 slot.

IMG_20210507_132142003_HDR.th.jpg

Remove the transistor in the red square (Q1). Large toe nail clippers will work, if you have no other way.
One can get a modified version on fleabay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164722621319

Here's one with a 256GB SSD for $50

https://www.ebay.com/itm/373522714711

If your motherboard won't boot from PCIe, use any regular hdrive, or SSD for the ESP partition/boot partition (and also swap) with root & home on the NVMe SSD. Used, small SSD can be had for $10

https://www.ebay.com/itm/373307364909

Nice way to keep a usable setup running for a while longer for $50 with a very nice speed bump.

~ sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 238.47 GiB, 256060514304 bytes, 500118192 sectors
Disk model: SAMSUNG MZVLB256HBHQ-000L7              
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 1668772C-AF04-4669-958A-5FC502686F94

Device         Start       End   Sectors   Size Type
/dev/nvme0n1p1  2048 500117503 500115456 238.5G Linux filesystem


Disk /dev/sda: 29.82 GiB, 32017047552 bytes, 62533296 sectors
Disk model: TS32GSSD370S    
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 5B74E850-5812-5246-8657-C5BE011F485C

Device       Start      End  Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sda1     2048  1503231  1501184  733M EFI System
/dev/sda2  1503232 19079166 17575935  8.4G Linux swap
~ 

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#29 2021-05-07 20:12:41

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

^ Never forget to burn in any used or new drives, check SMART and check for bad blocks. SSDs for storing my precious bytes is one of the components I wouldn't skimp on...not sure if I would go for a 16G SSD in any case; I have 2x 1TB SSD here bought new 2 months ago and there are 2.5TB and 1.5TB lifetime writes on them already. With only 16G, I wonder what TWB it's specced for. Hard to find online...


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#30 2021-05-07 21:14:28

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

^ Yeah, but if you're just using it so the BIOS/OS can find the PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD, very little bytes are written.

Of course each to their own, and I don't care. I consider this is the last time this (or any) hardware I'm using is going to boot up. I keep good backups, and a comprehensive script for reinstalling, so it's almost painless. I can only afford cheap, used hardware, so I'm always ready for it to die, and it occasionally does. I can have a new system up and running before the coffee pot is finished brewing. YMMV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjbjPS4vY24

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#31 2021-05-08 13:07:23

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

I'm taking the plunge, too. I have ordered a 1 TB Western Digital Black m.2 nvme for my X570 PC. I'm trying to wait patiently for it to arrive.

Thanks for the tips, @twoion

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#32 2021-05-09 09:21:00

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

redcollective wrote:
Temetka wrote:

My primary machine is my Thinkpad T410 with a 250GB Samsung 840 EVO (latest firmware applied).

It's running BL just fine.

Hey Temetka, how do you do your SSD firmware updates on linux?

Red


Reeeally late reply mainly in case anyone wonders how I did that.

I installed Windows, then used the Samsung software to update the firmware. Then I wiped the SSD and installed BL.

I no longer have that machine or SSD, but I did check with the friend of mine I gave them to and they are both working just fine to this day.


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#33 2021-05-09 15:02:42

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

I bought one of these from this vendor a while back.

"Card removed from NEW HP Z640 due to deployment image incompatibility. Minimum usage (if any)"

And it had one hour on it, just as stated.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265084123678

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#34 Yesterday 17:21:35

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

ratcheer wrote:

I'm taking the plunge, too. I have ordered a 1 TB Western Digital Black m.2 nvme for my X570 PC. I'm trying to wait patiently for it to arrive.

Any update on this? Have you setup the new machine yet? TIA.

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#35 Today 13:54:05

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

eight.bit.al wrote:
ratcheer wrote:

I'm taking the plunge, too. I have ordered a 1 TB Western Digital Black m.2 nvme for my X570 PC. I'm trying to wait patiently for it to arrive.

Any update on this? Have you setup the new machine yet? TIA.

8bit

Yes, I am just about settled in.

It was a PITA to install, physically. The SSD itself wasn't bad, but I had to remove the video adapter to get clear access. I almost broke the video card trying to remove it. I learned that there is a catch at the front of the card that must be released. (I am not a hardware guy.)

Also, the new SSD didn't come with a tiny m.2 screw and motherboard standoff, so I had to wait two extra days to get another order via Amazon. All for a measly $1 worth of parts, which they could have included.

Then, the new SSD was locked in some way. The nvme-cli commands to format it and such would run, but always returned LBA errors.

Then, I had a devil of a time trying to restore my Linux system. I finally got it to boot, but it gave me a black screen after systemd started. I got pissed off and did a fresh install of Arch Linux. I'm still working to recover all of my functionality. I'm getting there.

The good news is that the new SSD is as fast as advertised. A 36 GB btrfs filesystem scrub ran at 3.1 GB/sec, far outpacing what my SATA III SSD will do. In everyday use, it is easy to tell that my system is much snappier.

So, for first world problems, I now have to decide how to re-deploy my old SATA SSD (500 GB) and HDD (2 TB). I think I will put my bulk user data (photos, documents, etc) onto the old SSD. Then, I might change the HDD to be my backup drive. Then, I would have a spare 4 TB external USB 3 drive, unused. Oh, well.

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#36 Today 16:19:30

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Re: BL SSD discussion thread

ratcheer wrote:

Yes, I am just about settled in.

Also, the new SSD didn't come with a tiny m.2 screw and motherboard standoff, so I had to wait two extra days to get another order via Amazon. All for a measly $1 worth of parts, which they could have included.

That usually comes with the MB, as far as I know. I've seen the screw size and/or thread pitch differ from different MB manufacturers; the screw from my HP Turbo drive won't fit the Dell 3036 MB, for example.

The good news is that the new SSD is as fast as advertised. A 36 GB btrfs filesystem scrub ran at 3.1 GB/sec, far outpacing what my SATA III SSD will do. In everyday use, it is easy to tell that my system is much snappier.

Nice. Glad you're getting it sorted out. Pics?

8bit

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