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#161 2025-05-14 01:42:29

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Re: Carbon Bugs

hhh wrote:
Purging configuration files for linux-image-6.12.22-amd64 (6.12.22-1) 
Purging configuration files for linux-image-6.1.0-32-amd64 (6.1.129-1) ...

You are way ahead of me.

Don't have an answer to you question.

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#162 2025-05-14 06:34:12

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Re: Carbon Bugs

hhh wrote:

Anything worth noting?

I don't think so — the warnings come from /usr/share/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib and they're placed in the functions the warnings mention, which is really strange. See line 313 for an example.

The command exits with zero status so it's just a warning rather than an error.

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#163 2025-05-14 17:47:14

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Re: Carbon Bugs

^, ^^ OK, thanks for taking a look.

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#164 2025-05-15 05:02:40

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Re: Carbon Bugs

@micko01 I'm sorry if my rhetorical question here muddied the water:

johnraff wrote:

BTW Why clone repos into the BL collection at all? If upstream have already built and have orig & debian tarballs, why not just add them with reprepro?

It wasn't a serious suggestion, just meant as an example of something someone might say.

@hhh is right that "There's always some ambiguity with web posts".

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#165 2025-05-15 08:53:27

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Re: Carbon Bugs

johnraff wrote:

@micko01 I'm sorry if my rhetorical question here muddied the water:

johnraff wrote:

BTW Why clone repos into the BL collection at all? If upstream have already built and have orig & debian tarballs, why not just add them with reprepro?

It wasn't a serious suggestion, just meant as an example of something someone might say.

@hhh is right that "There's always some ambiguity with web posts".

No apology necessary smile *it happens.

But since this is the carbon bugs thread we should probably continue discussions about the icon themes at least in the carbon Themes (beta version) thread smile https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 84#p143084 <-- latest post

#!/bin/sh
echo '#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main() { printf("Hi, bunsenlabs\\n"); return; }' > bunsen.c
gcc bunsen.c -o bunsen
./bunsen

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#166 2025-05-15 13:35:30

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Re: Carbon Bugs

I'm experiencing very high/constant laptop fan usage with the recent kernel upgrade to linux-image-6.12.27-amd64. Anybody else?

There's no bug report for it...

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgrepo … t=unstable

I'm staying with the *.25 kernel for now, no problems with it on my machine.

-edit- I should have added that I'm running a Lenovo Ideapad with an Intel CPU and integrated Intel GPU.

I should also add that I have 2 trixie partitions, Carbon and a minimal GNOME, Wayland only one and I get the same ridiculous fan speeds on both of them. I was hoping to get some confirmation here before I go ahead and file a bug report with Debian.

Last edited by hhh (2025-05-15 19:29:22)

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#167 2025-05-16 10:20:21

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Re: Carbon Bugs

no such problems with the latest kernels here:
( this one is “fanless”)
carbon

inxi -SCG
System:
  Host: carbon Kernel: 6.12.27-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: Openbox v: 3.6.1 Distro: BunsenLabs GNU/Linux 13 (Carbon)
CPU:
  Info: 5-core model: Intel Celeron 7305 bits: 64 type: MCP cache: L2: 3.2 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 597 min/max: 400/1100:900 cores: 1: 597 2: 597 3: 597
    4: 597 5: 597
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-UP3 GT1 [UHD Graphics] driver: i915 v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.16 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: iris,swrast platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 25.0.5-1
    renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (ADL GT2)
  API: Vulkan Message: No Vulkan data available.
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo,
    xprop, xrandr

siduction-xfce

inxi -SCG
System:
  Host: T500 Kernel: 6.14.6-1-siduction-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: LabWC v: N/A Distro: siduction 2024.1.0 shine-on - xfce -
    (202501132151)
CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Core2 Duo T9400 bits: 64 type: MCP cache:
    L2: 6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 798 min/max: 800/2534 cores: 1: 798 2: 798
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
    compositor: LabWC driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
    dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: crocus,swrast
    platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 2.1 vendor: intel mesa v: 25.0.5-1
    renderer: Mesa Mobile Intel GM45 Express (CTG)
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo de: xfce4-display-settings wl: kanshi,
    wayland-info, wlr-randr x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr

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#168 2025-05-17 03:17:43

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Re: Carbon Bugs

^ OK, I was hoping to get an Intel confirmation before submitting a bug report to Debian. I'll wait for the next kernel upgrade and take it from there.

It's also possible that some other package upgrade fixed the problem, I'm getting 10 to 40 package upgrades daily during this soft freeze.

Thanks for testing!

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#169 2025-05-19 12:04:55

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Re: Carbon Bugs

I searched this thread and did not see anything related.  I installed Bunsen Boron on a Dell CB1C13 Chromebook and dist-upgraded to Carbon.  I can suspend using bl-exit but automatic suspend does not work:

i6hbLIW.png

Any thoughts, ideas?

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#170 2025-05-20 06:16:19

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Re: Carbon Bugs

^Too little RAM memory? Looks tight.

I have the OS here after startup with 2 conky, FF-esr, terminal, both network modules wifi and ethernet are active.
Radiotray-ng and Bluetooth manager are dormant in autostart and I wonder who is going crazy with RAM usage here, conky or fastfetch.
Probably fastfetch.
VtT1Q6Nt.png

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#171 2025-05-20 14:57:10

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Re: Carbon Bugs

kozimodo wrote:

Any thoughts, ideas?

That error message is pretty clear, even with a blurred image big_smile

You need a polkit authentication agent so install either lxpolkit or mate-polkit. I think one of them starts itself but one needs an autostart entry. Can't remember which is which though...

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#172 2025-05-21 14:07:04

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Re: Carbon Bugs

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
kozimodo wrote:

Any thoughts, ideas?

That error message is pretty clear, even with a blurred image big_smile

You need a polkit authentication agent so install either lxpolkit or mate-polkit. I think one of them starts itself but one needs an autostart entry. Can't remember which is which though...

Mate polkit entry in /etc/xdg/autostart has an entry for "OnlyShowIn" (mate), and the gnome polkit has one too (XFCE;Unity;X-Cinnamon;), so in my Openbox installs XDG won't start them at login, I have to use ~/.config/openbox/autostart to do that.

I guess I could edit the .desktop too, don't know if that would be any better though.

That pic above looks bad, something already ate into the ram enough to start using swap.

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#173 2025-05-22 01:04:38

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Re: Carbon Bugs

^ You can copy the root autostart to ~/.config/autostart and edit it there (and it will persist through the package updates), but adding it to the BL autostart does the same thing. Glad you got it sorted!

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#174 2025-05-22 01:20:14

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Re: Carbon Bugs

greenjeans wrote:

Mate polkit entry in /etc/xdg/autostart has an entry for "OnlyShowIn" (mate)

I don't see that entry on my Trixie system with mate-polkit 1.26.1-4+b1
(translations edited out):

john@trixie-tester:~$ cat /etc/xdg/autostart/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1.desktop 
[Desktop Entry]
Name=PolicyKit Authentication Agent
Comment=PolicyKit Authentication Agent for the MATE Desktop
Exec=/usr/libexec/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1
Terminal=false
Type=Application
NoDisplay=true
NotShowIn=GNOME;KDE;
X-MATE-AutoRestart=true

What mate-polkit are you using?

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#175 2025-05-22 13:37:28

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Re: Carbon Bugs

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

That error message is pretty clear, even with a blurred image big_smile

You need a polkit authentication agent so install either lxpolkit or mate-polkit. I think one of them starts itself but one needs an autostart entry. Can't remember which is which though...

mate-polkit appears to autostart but requires that I type the password.  I assume there is an additional configuration step that I'm missing.

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#176 2025-05-22 14:32:11

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Re: Carbon Bugs

johnraff wrote:
greenjeans wrote:

Mate polkit entry in /etc/xdg/autostart has an entry for "OnlyShowIn" (mate)

I don't see that entry on my Trixie system with mate-polkit 1.26.1-4+b1

What mate-polkit are you using?

My apologies, that's in my bookworm installs, I should have broken out one of the trixie test iso's before posting. Sorry about that, when I posted that I was neck deep for the last couple days in trying to grind out some new code and was taking a break so I didn't get burned out, so I did a stupid thing which is to post before really thinking about it. I should really stay out of this thread. mea culpa.

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#177 2025-05-22 16:28:29

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Re: Carbon Bugs

kozimodo wrote:

mate-polkit appears to autostart but requires that I type the password

Sorry, I should have thought about this a bit more before replying because of course suspend should not require a password. How silly of me.

Suspend permissions should be assigned by the login session so please share the output of

loginctl session-status

Thanks!

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#178 2025-05-22 19:31:26

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Re: Carbon Bugs

110 - user (1000)
  Since: Thu 2025-05-22 08:57:43 EDT; 4h 7min ago
  State: active
 Leader: 60712 (lightdm)
   Seat: seat0; vc7
Display: :0
 Remote: no
Service: lightdm
   Type: x11
  Class: user
Desktop: bunsenlabs
   Idle: no
   Unit: session-110.scope
         ├─60712 lightdm --session-child 15 22
         ├─60727 /usr/bin/openbox --config-file /home/user/.config/openbox/bl-rc.xml --startup /usr/lib/bunsen/configs/bunsen-autostart
         ├─60770 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/bunsenlabs-session
         ├─60783 /usr/bin/xbindkeys -f /home/user/.xbindkeysrc
         ├─60790 syndaemon -i .5 -K -t -R -d
         ├─60791 xcape -e Super_L Super_L space
         ├─60803 pnmixer
         ├─60809 thunar --daemon
         ├─60826 conky -c /home/user/.config/conky/BL-Boron-conky.conf
         ├─60828 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py
         ├─60829 /usr/libexec/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1
         ├─60832 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/blueman-applet
         ├─60833 light-locker
         ├─60836 nm-applet
         ├─60853 xfce4-power-manager
         ├─60908 tint2 -c /home/user/.config/tint2/tint2rc
         ├─60929 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/blueman-tray
         ├─61159 sh -c x-www-browser
         ├─61160 x-www-browser
         ├─61212 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -parentBuildID 20250517152055 -prefsLen 30095 -prefMapSize 249874 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {68b12004-a993-45fb-ae60-5e5813e3aa91} 61160 true socket
         ├─61232 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 1 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 30095 -prefMapSize 249874 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250517152055 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {9ca2441c-d76f-4cd0-b020-de12f203ec78} 61160 true tab
         ├─61257 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 2 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 31120 -prefMapSize 249874 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250517152055 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {555b9844-a495-4c86-9260-3a8897f481e5} 61160 true tab
         ├─61336 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -parentBuildID 20250517152055 -sandboxingKind 0 -prefsLen 35850 -prefMapSize 249874 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {caea8aa3-6de1-49a4-912a-957ca8b1e372} 61160 true utility
         ├─61345 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 4 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 32074 -prefMapSize 249874 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250517152055 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {ab6c78a4-b50c-4f57-89f2-88cbe5dc6132} 61160 true tab
         ├─61561 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -parentBuildID 20250517152055 -prefsLen 35988 -prefMapSize 249874 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {d5104a86-b4bc-4374-af88-aed5274642fa} 61160 true rdd
         ├─62418 sh -c x-terminal-emulator
         ├─62419 x-terminal-emulator
         ├─62425 fish
         ├─62492 xclip -in -selection clipboard
         ├─66073 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 55 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 32259 -prefMapSize 249874 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250517152055 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {415dcf0f-ba84-4312-9e61-bee8ae588cdc} 61160 true tab
         ├─67037 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 66 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 32259 -prefMapSize 249874 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250517152055 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {d926a195-598d-45b6-a1ff-032e9e682a46} 61160 true tab
         ├─67920 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 78 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 32259 -prefMapSize 249874 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250517152055 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {250bd6a3-449c-44bf-bbcf-ca80bf813000} 61160 true tab
         └─68030 loginctl session-status

May 22 12:10:37 lappy pkexec[65897]: pam_unix(polkit-1:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by user(uid=1000)
May 22 12:10:37 lappy pkexec[65897]: user: Executing command [USER=root] [TTY=unknown] [CWD=/home/user] [COMMAND=/usr/sbin/xfce4-pm-helper --suspend]
May 22 12:10:37 lappy pkexec[66031]: pam_unix(polkit-1:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by user(uid=1000)
May 22 12:10:37 lappy pkexec[66031]: user: Executing command [USER=root] [TTY=unknown] [CWD=/home/user] [COMMAND=/usr/sbin/xfpm-power-backlight-helper --set-brightness 937]
May 22 12:12:00 lappy systemd[1]: session-110.scope: Unit now frozen-by-parent.
May 22 14:32:59 lappy systemd[1]: session-110.scope: Unit now thawed.
May 22 15:21:00 lappy pkexec[67505]: pam_unix(polkit-1:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by user(uid=1000)
May 22 15:21:00 lappy pkexec[67505]: user: Executing command [USER=root] [TTY=unknown] [CWD=/home/user] [COMMAND=/usr/sbin/xfce4-pm-helper --suspend]
May 22 15:21:00 lappy pkexec[67707]: pam_unix(polkit-1:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by user(uid=1000)
May 22 15:21:00 lappy pkexec[67707]: user: Executing command [USER=root] [TTY=unknown] [CWD=/home/user] [COMMAND=/usr/sbin/xfpm-power-backlight-helper --set-brightness 937]

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#179 2025-05-22 19:52:05

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Re: Carbon Bugs

That all looks fine.

Are there any other users logged in? I think suspend can only be performed without a password if a single user is logged in.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2025-05-22 19:52:24)

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#180 2025-05-22 20:08:38

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Re: Carbon Bugs

No, there aren't even any other users configured.  Could it be a keyring problem?

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