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johnraff

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Re: Carbon Bugs

^Anyway that live-build compression type option for squashfs is there now and I'll try it next time I do a build.

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Re: Carbon Bugs

Not a bug but I don't know if it's been mentioned elsewhere on the forums, be aware of the new deb822 format for sources.list(s) in trixie...

https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Examples

https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/dp … .5.en.html

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Re: Carbon Bugs

Not a bug but I don't know if it's been mentioned elsewhere on the forums, be aware of the new deb822 format for sources.list(s) in trixie...

https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Examples

https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/dp … .5.en.html

I believe the deb822 format will become mandatory most likely in forky and beyond and the old sources.list format support removed from apt at some point as well, so good to get used to the new format now

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johnraff

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Re: Carbon Bugs

deb822 has been coming up for a long time, but till recently a number of basic debian utilities didn't use it, including debian-installer. Without looking right now, that seems to have changed, so there's no reason for people not to use deb822, that I know of anyway.

What remains is to see whether live-build has made the change, or if not, whether it can be easily patched to use deb822 in the BL isos.

I don't know if it's been mentioned elsewhere on the forums

Actually, yes it has. Try the search function:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/search.ph … =452646130

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Re: Carbon Bugs

deb822 has been coming up for a long time, but till recently a number of basic debian utilities didn't use it, including debian-installer. Without looking right now, that seems to have changed, so there's no reason for people not to use deb822, that I know of anyway.

What remains is to see whether live-build has made the change, or if not, whether it can be easily patched to use deb822 in the BL isos.

I don't know if it's been mentioned elsewhere on the forums

Actually, yes it has. Try the search function:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/search.ph … =452646130

So Trixie installer now uses deb822 rather than the old style sources.list?

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johnraff

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Re: Carbon Bugs

^Can't answer that without trying an install from a Trixie installer (eg netinstall).

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Re: Carbon Bugs

So Trixie installer now uses deb822 rather than the old style sources.list?

No. The Alpha 1 installer...

https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

... sets up /etc/apt/sources.list

When you run apt it will notify you that your sources can be modernized via 'apt modernize-sources'. That command will backup your old sources and create the new files...

bishop@weyland-yutani:~$ sudo apt modernize-sources
The following files need modernizing:
  - /etc/apt/sources.list
  - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list

Modernizing will replace .list files with the new .sources format,
add Signed-By values where they can be determined automatically,
and save the old files into .list.bak files.

This command supports the 'signed-by' and 'trusted' options. If you
have specified other options inside [] brackets, please transfer them
manually to the output files; see sources.list(5) for a mapping.

For a simulation, respond N in the following prompt.
Rewrite 2 sources? [Y/n] 

Source: My trixie netinstall carbon installation.

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This updates bunsen.list to the new format but doesn't update the 'Signed by' entry and apt will warn you, and I assume won't let you upgrade bunsen packages until the entry is added...

Rewrite 2 sources? [Y/n] 
Modernizing /etc/apt/sources.list...
- Writing /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources

Modernizing /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list...
- Writing /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.sources
Warning: Could not determine Signed-By for URIs: https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/, Suites: carbon

bishop@weyland-yutani:~$ sudo apt update
Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian trixie InRelease
Hit:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security trixie-security InRelease                
Hit:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian trixie-updates InRelease                            
Hit:4 https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian carbon InRelease                  
All packages are up to date.    
Notice: Missing Signed-By in the sources.list(5) entry for 'https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian'

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Re: Carbon Bugs

This updates bunsen.list to the new format but doesn't update the 'Signed by' entry and apt will warn you, and I assume won't let you upgrade bunsen packages until the entry is added...

It's an easy enough fix — see https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 40#p141740 and my reply; johnraff's symlink suggestion may very well fix things.

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Re: Carbon Bugs

@HoaS, thanks!

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micko01

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Re: Carbon Bugs

Weird bug here.

That image is in /usr/share/backgrounds/xfce (name: paxfce.png)

Why would lightdm even find it?

Here's the config; stock 50_bunsen.conf except for gtk theme.

[greeter]
background = /usr/share/images/bunsen/login/default
theme-name = bunsen-yaru-bark-dark
icon-theme-name = Bunsen-lightdm
font-name = Sans 10
xft-antialias = true
#xft-dpi=
xft-hintstyle = hintslight
xft-rgba = rgb
indicators = ~clock;~language;~session;~a11y;~power
clock-format = %H:%M          %a, %b %d
position = 57%,start 22%,start

Checked /var/log/lightdm and nothing out of order there.

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#!/bin/sh
echo '#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main() { printf("Hi, bunsenlabs\\n"); return; }' > bunsen.c
gcc bunsen.c -o bunsen
./bunsen

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Gaucho

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Re: Carbon Bugs

Run...

lightdm --show-config

Mine shows...

bishop@weyland-yutani:~$ lightdm --show-config
   [Seat:*]
A  greeter-session=lightdm-greeter
B  greeter-hide-users=false
A  session-wrapper=/etc/X11/Xsession
B  user-session=bunsenlabs

Sources:
A  /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/01_debian.conf
B  /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50_bunsen.conf
C  /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf

Do you have an xfce session on that OS?

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micko01

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Re: Carbon Bugs

^same output

Do you have an xfce session on that OS?

Yes.

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#!/bin/sh
echo '#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main() { printf("Hi, bunsenlabs\\n"); return; }' > bunsen.c
gcc bunsen.c -o bunsen
./bunsen

hhh

Gaucho

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Re: Carbon Bugs

It's probably something local in ~/.config/xfce4 then. Try adding...

user-background=false

... to your greeter.conf.

Source...

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1187657 … e-monitors

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johnraff

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Re: Carbon Bugs

Have a look at files in /var/log/lightdm/ ?

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Re: Carbon Bugs

It's probably something local in ~/.config/xfce4 then. Try adding...

user-background=false

... to your greeter.conf.

Source...

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1187657 … e-monitors

Fixed!

Many thanks @hhh

You genius is only preceded by your reputation.

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echo '#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main() { printf("Hi, bunsenlabs\\n"); return; }' > bunsen.c
gcc bunsen.c -o bunsen
./bunsen

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Re: Carbon Bugs

^ My reputation is mud, but my Google-foo is strong! Glad to have helped.

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cog

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Re: Carbon Bugs

Related to yalls' chat on the DEB822 format I've got it sorted out with my calamares installer setup.  The end result of an install is everything setup as if you had run the apt modernize sources command.  I have no idea how to tackle it yet on the debian installer as it never really builds right until a good hard freeze or release.

https://github.com/troutcobbler/calamar … rces-final

johnraff

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Re: Carbon Bugs

Thanks for the hint @cog. Some day soon I need to take a look at whether live-build has caught up with DEB822. (EDIT: I don't think it's there yet.) A new version 20250505 has just hit Sid so will probably show up in Trixy in a few days.

In fact, thinking a moment, l-b will likely just leave it all up to the debian installer. There's no trace of DEB822 in the current code or git log.

I keep an eye on the debian-installer mailing list and every day there's new stuff being hashed over, so right, still pretty unstable-looking.

Bug report about DEB822:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … ug=1032131

It will take some effort to migrate to deb822 for d-i, and additionally live-build needs to migrate to deb822 as well.

And very little after that...

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Re: Carbon Bugs

@johnraff. Good find.  I really need to start reading the mailing list more.

hhh

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Re: Carbon Bugs

Bluetooth... bl-welcome installs bluetooth and bluez, if the user chooses, but nothing shows in xfce4-panel. Gonna logout/login with tint2 instead and see what happens...

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