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^ On the plus side, working pretty well. The wallpaper gets blanked out when I lock the screen. Other than that, perfect.
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... tons of packages removed by sudo apt --purge autoremove.
This happens when packages that used to be Depends become Recommends or Suggests. A Good Thing basically because it gives users more freedom. Remember when (especially Ubuntu) packages used to drag in a mountain of dependencies?
But it means we have to be aware, and some things we could just rely on being brought in by dependencies will have to be explicitly added to package lists.
Also for our BL metapackages, there were a couple of uninstallable packages which blocked the metapackage from being installed at all.
I've tried to patch them up, but please report any issues you find!
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^ OK, I will do more testing on the upgrade path when the first freeze hits in two weeks (transition and toolchain, March 15th).
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inxi -Sxxx
System:
Host: carbon Kernel: 6.12.12-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 14.2.0 clocksource: tsc
Desktop: Openbox v: 3.6.1 with: jgmenu,tint2 tools: light-locker vt: 7
dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: BunsenLabs 13 (Carbon) base: Debian GNU/Linux
trixie/sid
What takes a long time...
I have just noticed that the 'Power Management' does not run after every restart(and 'logout') and has to be switched on.
Can anyone confirm this?
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Furthermore, scrot (for the selection area) makes this error:
Xfce4 Sreenshooter is OK.
Edit: This display error does not occur when picom is switched off.
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I have just noticed that the 'Power Management' does not run after every restart(and 'logout') and has to be switched on.
Can anyone confirm this?
Yes. I noticed this 2 or 3 days ago. xfce4-power-manager's autostart desktop file /etc/xdg/autostart/xfce4-power-manager.desktop has been changed to only start in Xfce in the latest version. Please add
xfce4-power-manager &
somewhere in ~/.config/bunsen/autostart
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unklar wrote:I have just noticed that the 'Power Management' does not run after every restart(and 'logout') and has to be switched on.
Can anyone confirm this?Yes. I noticed this 2 or 3 days ago. xfce4-power-manager's autostart desktop file /etc/xdg/autostart/xfce4-power-manager.desktop has been changed to only start in Xfce in the latest version. Please add
xfce4-power-manager &
somewhere in ~/.config/bunsen/autostart
Thanks!
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Debian offers with the command
apt modernize-sources
offers a simple form of source list conversion to the new deb822 format.
Here with bunsen-carbon-openbox and bunsen-carbon-wayland this only works partially, because bunsen-archive-keyring.gpg is not found (warning: missing signed-by-key...)
The key is installed, but I cannot find the path to it in Thunar either with 'Find files' or with catfish (BUG?).
Can someone tell me where bunsen hides the path?
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/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/bunsen-release.asc
Or
dpkg -L bunsen-keyring
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/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/bunsen-release.asc
Or
dpkg -L bunsen-keyring
No.
This is not accepted because it is not the key.
Example bunsen-sources
Types: deb
URIs: https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/
Suites: carbon
Components: main
Signed-By:
Types: deb
URIs: https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/
Suites: bookworm-backports
Components: main
Signed-By:
debian-sources
Types: deb
URIs: https://deb.debian.org/debian/
Suites: unstable
Components: main non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg
and, the hint from apt(snip)
All packages are up to date.
Notice: Missing Signed-By in the sources.list(5) entry for 'https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian'
Notice: Missing Signed-By in the sources.list(5) entry for 'https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian'
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It works for me
I just ran apt modernize-sources
in my Carbon test system, it mentioned the missing key so I added the path I gave in my last post to the "Signed-by" line in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.sources
and apt update
completed without error afterwards.
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It works for me
I just ran
apt modernize-sources
in my Carbon test system, it mentioned the missing key so I added the path I gave in my last post to the "Signed-by" line in/etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.sources
andapt update
completed without error afterwards.
Correct!
I would have sworn... Sorry.
It works.
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Maybe when we update our sources to deb822 format we should put the signing key in /usr/share/keyrings . Probably add a symlink from the old location in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d for a release or two.
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Maybe when we update our sources to deb822 format we should put the signing key in /usr/share/keyrings . Probably add a symlink from the old location in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d for a release or two.
Thank you.
That's a good plan.
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Maybe when we update our sources to deb822 format we should put the signing key in /usr/share/keyrings . Probably add a symlink from the old location in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d for a release or two.
Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, live-build is still using old-style sources and still installing keys to /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
Until they support deb822 we'll have no choice but to stay where we are...
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johnraff wrote:Maybe when we update our sources to deb822 format we should put the signing key in /usr/share/keyrings . Probably add a symlink from the old location in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d for a release or two.
Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, live-build is still using old-style sources and still installing keys to /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
Until they support deb822 we'll have no choice but to stay where we are...
So symlinking /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d should at least keep apt happy when using deb822...particularly if using 3rd party sources that put their keys in the deprecated directory.
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I don't understand why the bunsen-meta-all package depends on libreoffice-writer...
Unpacking libreoffice-base-core (4:25.2.1-3) via (4:24.8.5-2) ...
dpkg: libreoffice-writer: dependency problems, but will still be removed as requested:
bunsen-meta-all depends on libreoffice-writer.
The dist-upgrade from now:
sudo apt update
[sudo] Passwort für unklar:
Holen:1 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-backports InRelease [49,8 kB]
OK:2 https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian carbon InRelease
Holen:3 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie InRelease [175 kB]
OK:4 https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bookworm-backports InRelease
Holen:5 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates InRelease [49,6 kB]
OK:6 https://deb.debian.org/debian-security trixie-security InRelease
Holen:7 https://01micko.github.io/debian boron InRelease [5.687 B]
Holen:8 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages.diff/Index [27,9 kB]
Holen:9 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main Translation-de.diff/Index [27,8 kB]
Holen:10 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main Translation-en.diff/Index [27,9 kB]
Holen:11 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/contrib amd64 Packages.diff/Index [27,8 kB]
Holen:12 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages 2025-03-13-0807.42.pdiff [7.685 B]
Holen:13 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages 2025-03-13-1405.02.pdiff [17,5 kB]
OK:14 https://01micko.github.io/debian carbon-trixie InRelease
Holen:15 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages 2025-03-13-2013.38.pdiff [192 kB]
Holen:16 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages 2025-03-14-0234.12.pdiff [54,2 kB]
Holen:17 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main Translation-de 2025-03-13-0807.42.pdiff [1.230 B]
Holen:18 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main Translation-en 2025-03-13-1405.02.pdiff [1.045 B]
Holen:19 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main Translation-en 2025-03-13-2013.38.pdiff [6.329 B]
Holen:20 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main Translation-en 2025-03-14-0234.12.pdiff [7.426 B]
Holen:21 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/contrib amd64 Packages 2025-03-13-1405.02.pdiff [427 B]
Holen:16 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages 2025-03-14-0234.12.pdiff [54,2 kB]
Holen:21 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/contrib amd64 Packages 2025-03-13-1405.02.pdiff [427 B]
Holen:20 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main Translation-en 2025-03-14-0234.12.pdiff [7.426 B]
Holen:17 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main Translation-de 2025-03-13-0807.42.pdiff [1.230 B]
Es wurden 679 kB in 1 s geholt (496 kB/s).
Aktualisierung für 85 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
unklar@carbon:~$ sudo apt dist-upgrade
Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt:
libpoppler145 lp-solve
Verwenden Sie »sudo apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen.
Aktualisierung:
console-setup keyboard-configuration libheif-plugin-libde265 libqt6openglwidgets6 libreoffice-style-colibre python3
console-setup-linux libboost-iostreams1.83.0 libheif-plugin-x265 libqt6qml6 libreoffice-uiconfig-calc python3-minimal
dpkg libboost-locale1.83.0 libheif1 libqt6qmlmodels6 libreoffice-uiconfig-common qt6-gtk-platformtheme
fontconfig libboost-thread1.83.0 liblab-gamut1 libqt6quick6 libreoffice-uiconfig-writer qt6-qpa-plugins
fontconfig-config libcdt5 libnm0 libqt6svg6 libreoffice-writer qt6-svg-plugins
fonts-opensymbol libcgraph6 libonnxruntime1.20.1 libqt6waylandclient6 libuno-cppu3t64 qt6-translations-l10n
gir1.2-glib-2.0 libfontconfig1 libpathplan4 libqt6waylandcompositor6 libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3t64 qt6-wayland
gir1.2-nm-1.0 libglib2.0-0t64 libpoppler-glib8t64 libqt6widgets6 libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3t64 uno-libs-private
gir1.2-vte-2.91 libglib2.0-bin libpython3-stdlib libqt6wlshellintegration6 libuno-sal3t64 ure
graphviz libglib2.0-data libqt6core6t64 libre2-11 libuno-salhelpergcc3-3t64 wget
gstreamer1.0-libav libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0 libqt6dbus6 libreoffice-base-core libvte-2.91-0
gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad libgvc6 libqt6gui6 libreoffice-calc libvte-2.91-common
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good libgvpr2 libqt6multimedia6 libreoffice-common libzvbi-common
gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio libheif-plugin-aomenc libqt6network6 libreoffice-core libzvbi0t64
htop libheif-plugin-dav1d libqt6opengl6 libreoffice-gtk3 network-manager
Abhängigkeiten werden installiert:
libpoppler147 libqt6qmlmeta6 libqt6qmlworkerscript6 network-manager-l10n
Zusammenfassung:
Aktualisierung: 85, Installation: 4, Entfernen: 0, nicht aktualisieren: 0
Herunterlade-Größe: 135 MB
Benötigter Platz: 10,5 MB / 91,5 GB verfügbar
Fortfahren? [J/n]
...snip
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../7-libreoffice-base-core_4%3a25.2.1-3_amd64.deb ...
Entpacken von libreoffice-base-core (4:25.2.1-3) über (4:24.8.5-2) ...
dpkg: libreoffice-writer: Abhängigkeitsprobleme, wird aber wie gefordert dennoch entfernt:
bunsen-meta-all hängt ab von libreoffice-writer.
(Lese Datenbank ... 234021 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Entfernen von libreoffice-writer (4:24.8.5-2) ...
dpkg: libreoffice-calc: Abhängigkeitsprobleme, wird aber wie gefordert dennoch entfernt:
bunsen-meta-all hängt ab von libreoffice-calc.
Entfernen von libreoffice-calc (4:24.8.5-2) ...
dpkg: Abhängigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von libreoffice-base-core:
libreoffice-base-core hängt ab von libreoffice-core-nogui (= 4:25.2.1-3) | libreoffice-core (= 4:25.2.1-3); aber:
Paket libreoffice-core-nogui ist nicht installiert.
Version von libreoffice-core auf dem System ist 4:24.8.5-2.
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten des Paketes libreoffice-base-core (--configure):
Abhängigkeitsprobleme - verbleibt unkonfiguriert
Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
libreoffice-base-core
Fehler: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
...snip
sudo apt purge libreoffice-base-core
Probieren Sie »apt --fix-broken install«, um dies zu korrigieren.
Nichterfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
bunsen-meta-all : Hängt ab von: libreoffice-calc soll aber nicht installiert werden
Hängt ab von: libreoffice-writer soll aber nicht installiert werden
libreoffice-common : Hängt ab von: libreoffice-uiconfig-common (= 4:24.8.5-2) aber 4:25.2.1-3 soll installiert werden
Empfiehlt: python3-uno soll aber nicht installiert werden
libreoffice-gtk3 : Hängt ab von: libreoffice-core (= 4:25.2.1-3) aber 4:24.8.5-2 soll installiert werden
Empfiehlt: gstreamer1.0-gtk3 soll aber nicht installiert werden
Fehler: Unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten. Versuchen Sie »apt --fix-broken install« ohne Angabe eines Pakets (oder geben Sie eine Lösung an).
sudo apt --fix-broken install
Abhängigkeiten werden korrigiert … Fertig
Das folgende Paket wurde automatisch installiert und wird nicht mehr benötigt:
lp-solve
Verwenden Sie »sudo apt autoremove«, um es zu entfernen.
Aktualisierung:
libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-uiconfig-calc libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3t64 uno-libs-private ure
Abhängigkeiten werden installiert:
libreoffice-calc libreoffice-math libreoffice-uiconfig-math libreoffice-writer
Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
fonts-crosextra-caladea fonts-crosextra-carlito libreoffice-base libreoffice-java-common default-jre | java-runtime | java8-runtime | jre
Zusammenfassung:
Aktualisierung: 6, Installation: 4, Entfernen: 0, nicht aktualisieren: 69
8 nicht vollständig installiert oder entfernt.
Herunterlade-Größe: 584 kB / 73,0 MB
Benötigter Platz: 66,0 MB / 91,4 GB verfügbar
Fortfahren? [J/n]
Holen:1 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 libreoffice-uiconfig-math all 4:25.2.1-3 [56,8 kB]
Holen:2 https://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 libreoffice-math amd64 4:25.2.1-3 [527 kB]
Es wurden 584 kB in 0 s geholt (2.987 kB/s).
Vorkonfiguration der Pakete ...
(Lese Datenbank ... 233964 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../0-ure_4%3a25.2.1-3_amd64.deb ...
Entpacken von ure (4:25.2.1-3) über (4:24.8.5-2) ...
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../1-uno-libs-private_4%3a25.2.1-3_amd64.deb ...
Entpacken von uno-libs-private (4:25.2.1-3) über (4:24.8.5-2) ...
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../2-libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3t64_4%3a25.2.1-3_amd64.deb ...
Entpacken von libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3t64 (4:25.2.1-3) über (4:24.8.5-2) ...
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../3-libreoffice-uiconfig-calc_4%3a25.2.1-3_all.deb ...
Entpacken von libreoffice-uiconfig-calc (4:25.2.1-3) über (4:24.8.5-2) ...
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../4-libreoffice-core_4%3a25.2.1-3_amd64.deb ...
Entpacken von libreoffice-core (4:25.2.1-3) über (4:24.8.5-2) ...
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../5-libreoffice-common_4%3a25.2.1-3_all.deb ...
Entpacken von libreoffice-common (4:25.2.1-3) über (4:24.8.5-2) ...
libreoffice-uiconfig-common (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
uno-libs-private (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3t64 (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
ure (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
libreoffice-common (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
Replacing config file /etc/libreoffice/registry/main.xcd with new version
(Lese Datenbank ... 234019 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libreoffice-calc_4%3a25.2.1-3_amd64.deb ...
Entpacken von libreoffice-calc (4:25.2.1-3) ...
Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket libreoffice-uiconfig-math wird gewählt.
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libreoffice-uiconfig-math_4%3a25.2.1-3_all.deb ...
Entpacken von libreoffice-uiconfig-math (4:25.2.1-3) ...
Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket libreoffice-math wird gewählt.
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libreoffice-math_4%3a25.2.1-3_amd64.deb ...
Entpacken von libreoffice-math (4:25.2.1-3) ...
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libreoffice-writer_4%3a25.2.1-3_amd64.deb ...
Entpacken von libreoffice-writer (4:25.2.1-3) ...
libpoppler147:amd64 (25.03.0-2) wird eingerichtet ...
libreoffice-uiconfig-writer (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
libreoffice-uiconfig-calc (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
keyboard-configuration (1.235) wird eingerichtet ...
libreoffice-core (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
libreoffice-uiconfig-math (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
libreoffice-math (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
libreoffice-gtk3 (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
libreoffice-base-core (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
console-setup-linux (1.235) wird eingerichtet ...
libreoffice-calc (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
console-setup (1.235) wird eingerichtet ...
libreoffice-writer (4:25.2.1-3) wird eingerichtet ...
Trigger für libc-bin (2.41-4) werden verarbeitet ...
Trigger für man-db (2.13.0-1) werden verarbeitet ...
Trigger für libreoffice-common (4:25.2.1-3) werden verarbeitet ...
Trigger für shared-mime-info (2.4-5+b2) werden verarbeitet ...
Trigger für desktop-file-utils (0.28-1) werden verarbeitet ...
Trigger für hicolor-icon-theme (0.18-2) werden verarbeitet ...
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I don't understand why the bunsen-meta-all package depends on libreoffice-writer...
Because libreoffice-writer is part of the BunsenLabs standard install.
Only writer, not the whole libreoffice suite, so it should pull in libreoffice-common, libreoffice-base-core and libreoffice-common.
The errors you were getting look like things that sometimes happen in Debian Testing.
My guess would be that it will be OK in a few days.
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The trixie transition and toolchain freeze starts today so things should be calmer from this point onwards.
I'll have to start testing properly myself now...
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Thank you both very much.
However, it does not change my opinion that libreoffice-writer, -calc etc. could be installed by each user himself, if he wants to. For me, this is essentially a question of the size of the ISO.
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The trixie transition and toolchain freeze starts today so things should be calmer from this point onwards.
I'll have to start testing properly myself now...
Yep. I got ahead of it a couple days ago and built a test iso of another distro, seems to be working so far, but one issue I had was that lightdm would not operate at all unless I added AMD firmware, and that's troubling as previous Debian-based stuff would always work, albeit with some video artifacts and complaints during boot-up. Don't have a running Nvidia machine to see if it's an issue there as well.
Some other bugs during boot as well, an ALSA issue and some others.
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