Carbon Themes (proposal)

hhh · 2024-09-13 01:28:39

johnraff wrote:

We do know that x-p-m's battery icon looks OK in xfce4-panel, right?

I've posted a dark-theme scrot of it in this thread...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 76#p137376

https://i.imgur.com/OiLXNZO.png

That's the systray icon, not the plugin icon (which is much larger and thus doesn't fit in at all, IIRC).

I'm pretty sure I tested it with a light theme and it showed a light icon, but I'm not set up to post a scrot at the moment. I'll test and post later (probably tomorrow).

hhh · 2024-09-13 03:53:51

xfce4-panel using a light theme with unhacked Yaru icons (the dark scrot shows hacked icons, but I think we'll probably stick with colored Numix-circle to get rid of some of the GNOME icons without having to do more than custom colors to create our own icon themes)...

Desktop switcher at the top, and the nice thing about xfce4-panel, other than the easy GUI settings, is that if you set the appearance to "Use system theme" it matches the GTK theme setting. Also easy enough to set the panel location to top, bottom or right (use "Deskbar" appearance for left/right). Plus you can install xfce4-goodies (plugins), which can also be installed individually (just xfce4-sensors-plugin, for example)...

https://packages.debian.org/sid/xfce4-goodies

So yes, the xfce4-power-manager icon looks fine with both light and dark themes without any hacking.

johnraff · 2024-09-13 05:02:11

^OK good to know we've got that option.

Xfce4-panel - I think the experimental 4.19.3-1 - is supposed to be usable on Wayland, but I don't think it has a systray yet. Some other things missing. I tried an experimental build the other week and it wasn't fantastic. But it might well be Wayland compatible in the future, which would be another reason to choose it for X11 now.

BTW how do you get the xfce4-panel clock horizontal with a vertical panel?

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hhh · 2024-09-13 13:50:34

johnraff wrote:

BTW how do you get the xfce4-panel clock horizontal with a vertical panel?

There's a third option for the horizontal/vertical setting which is "deskbar", it fixes the clock orientation.

johnraff · 2024-09-14 01:53:09

^Thanks, that did it.
Do you know what the "deskbar" option is actually intended for?

hhh · 2024-09-14 02:28:42

I think just that, orienting the clock and plugins when the panel is vertical. Why they also offer "vertical" is beyond me, but I guess there's a reason. Description of deskbar...

https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/ … es#general

I also don't know what they mean by "works best with rows set to two or more". I'll have to check, but I think rows are set to one in my scrots. Maybe it's for the plugins, which I don't have installed.

Anyway, it fixes the clock.

johnraff · 2024-09-14 04:00:55

hhh wrote:

I also don't know what they mean by "works best with rows set to two or more".

Nor me. Soon set it back to 1.

How did you get the top and bottom margins? Essential when adding round corners.

Right now I'm looking at mine without composition, so tint2 definitely wins with transparency.

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hhh · 2024-09-14 04:45:51

johnraff wrote:

How did you get the top and bottom margins? Essential when adding round corners.

This is actually something that won't be easy to configure out of the box. Again, I'm not on my BL setup ATM, but you can set the panel length in pixels, I think. But I got my panel positioning by dragging it around, because there's a point where it snaps to the edges. So I had to drag it to the point where it snapped to top, or left, or bottom, then drag it away and then try to drag it to a pixel or two before it snaps.

When I test it next, I'll see if you can just choose a centered position with a percentage length and have it flush to the left edge, or to the top or bottom edge. Not tonight though, I've had a day. I'm wiped out.

johnraff · 2024-09-14 05:03:47

^Individuals can set the height in pixels but our default configs need something that will work for all users. Either a % of the total height, or top and bottom margins. As you say, doesn't look easy.

Later...

johnraff · 2024-09-17 06:21:54

hhh wrote:

...tint2 will still be in the Debian repos (almost definitely) so you can install and use it if we drop it...

And of course even if we drop tint2 in Carbon we can still ship a config file for those who want to install it. Wouldn't be that much work.

johnraff · 2024-09-17 06:28:40

hhh wrote:

I've created a placeholder theme, so those using carbon can differentiate it from a boron install...
https://github.com/hhhorb/Carbon-themes/tree/main
Instructions:
~ Move the wallpaper to ~Pictures/wallpapers

I want to add those two wallpapers to bunsen-images for Carbon and replace the current Boron Aqua (which will remain available of course) as default.

Can you give me the name of the copyright holder and what licence they're released under?
EDIT: OK the name is Pawel Czerwinski but I can't find the licence.

We can add the other pixel sizes later on.

I guess everyone is OK with this wallpaper for Carbon?

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hhh · 2024-09-17 06:54:29

johnraff wrote:

hhh wrote:
I've created a placeholder theme, so those using carbon can differentiate it from a boron install...
https://github.com/hhhorb/Carbon-themes/tree/main
Instructions:
~ Move the wallpaper to ~Pictures/wallpapers
I want to add those two wallpapers to bunsen-images for Carbon and replace the current Boron Aqua (which will remain available of course) as default.
Can you give me the name of the copyright holder and what licence they're released under?
EDIT: OK the name is Pawel Czerwinski but I can't find the licence.

I gave him credit here...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 55#p137255

He posted it on Unsplash, here's the Unsplash licensing...

https://unsplash.com/license

Details of the license...

https://help.unsplash.com/en/collection … sh-license

hhh · 2024-09-17 07:09:55

Here's the original for sage...

https://unsplash.com/photos/background- … RcQ81KaX9g

I can't find the original for bark at the moment, he literally has hundreds of cool images posted there, and a revearse image search is showing me nothing.

johnraff · 2024-09-17 07:33:55

You slightly modified the originals, right? I guess they're the ones we want to use? In that case I've already downloaded bark and sage from your GitHub account.

Thanks for the licence links. They're all a bit vague unfortunately. I really would like a specific licence definition like GPL-3.0+ or CC-BY-NC-3.0 but anyway I'll see if there's anything on the interwebs about Debian and Unsplash...

hhh · 2024-09-17 17:04:08

There's a bit under "5. License to Images" here...

https://unsplash.com/terms

But the "Longform" on their license page is pretty clear, I think.

PackRat · 2024-09-17 17:47:27

hhh wrote:

I also don't know what they mean by "works best with rows set to two or more". I'll have to check,

For deskbar mode, increasing the number of rows adds width to the panel without expanding the height of the panel items. Increasing the row size will expand the panel width and the panel item height:

hhh · 2024-09-18 01:09:31

OK, not sure why you'd want a 200 or so wide panel, though. I thought setting it at 54px was pushing it. I think every vertical panel I've seen is either 24px or less, or maybe 32px.

-edit- I have Dash to Dock panel on my GNOME desktop set at 40px ATM...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 98#p138198

That also seems like pushing it a bit, unless you use autohide.

micko01 · 2024-09-22 11:04:27

@hhh

Uploaded the labbe-material-icons git repo.

There are 4 colours

- blue
- bark
- banana
- sage

'base' is exactly that; all themes inherit 'base'.

Dead easy to add more colours - that is why I designed it.

EDIT: the default tarball (all colours) is only 110kb compressed! Probably expands a lot more, but svg are only text.

mick@dellhome:~/Github/labbe-material$ stat -c %s labbe-material-icons-0.1.0.tar.xz
112760

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hhh · 2024-09-22 14:22:14

^Awseome, thanks!

johnraff · 2024-09-25 09:34:43

^^Nice!
Installed on the VM with @hhh's bark/sage theming and they look good.
And only 2.3MB for base + bark + sage and I doubt adding the other two would increase it that much.

One thing: if you want to hide the 'base' theme from lxappearance and friends, add

Hidden=true

to the index.theme.

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