Carbon Themes (proposal)

micko01 · 2024-08-26 12:52:24

This is only a demo, but I have built some icon themes. This isn't the greatest but it shows what can be done (all svg and pretty light weight). Nothing matches here but it could with some work. PMaterial - for ideas.

DeepDayze · 2024-08-26 12:58:53

micko01 wrote:

This is only a demo, but I have built some icon themes. This isn't the greatest but it shows what can be done (all svg and pretty light weight). Nothing matches here but it could with some work. PMaterial - for ideas.
https://i.imgur.com/cIATPw1t.png

That looks quite nice.

hhh · 2024-08-26 14:48:31

micko01 wrote:

This is only a demo, but I have built some icon themes. This isn't the greatest but it shows what can be done (all svg and pretty light weight). Nothing matches here but it could with some work. PMaterial - for ideas.
https://i.imgur.com/cIATPw1t.png

Nice, I'll have to test PMaterial ASAP!

There's an icon adjustment setting in the numix-folders script that let's you set folders to a similar icon...

This was my first folder choice for using Numix icons with the current Yaru themes, but initially it looked really flat compared to Yaru icons. It's growing on me. I definitely like the shape of the folder icons, they keep the whole rounded-corner look going.

micko01 · 2024-08-27 04:14:48

Dunno if this is of interest or not but I hacked PMaterial and am in very early stages of BunsenMaterial. We can kill those gnomey icons!, Of interest may be the Thunar icon in the bar on left. Using similar colors to bark-dark but a simple sed operation can adjust the whole lot. The build scripts are based around sed, loops and symlinks and it takes about 10 seconds on this intel i5.

All svg so light as.

Oh, is everyone getting those darker highlight bars under text with yaru-bark-dark GTK3 theme in thunar when the window is unfocused? (could be a labwc/wayland issue)

johnraff · 2024-08-27 06:35:53

^ This is labwc, Yaru-bark-dark, no dark highlights here:

Also @hhh I'm using your Yaru icon set (the first one, not the revised version) and notice the lack of gnominess! Especially that nice clean terminal icon, although the file manager's a bit generic Thunar. I wonder what the difference from your screenshots is?

johnraff · 2024-08-27 06:38:54

hhh wrote:

This was my first folder choice for using Numix icons with the current Yaru themes, but initially it looked really flat compared to Yaru icons. It's growing on me. I definitely like the shape of the folder icons, they keep the whole rounded-corner look going.

The smooth roundedness of the Yaru icons is nice, but I could live with either to be honest.

johnraff · 2024-08-27 06:45:49

hhh wrote:

johnraff wrote:
Perhaps we can make a hybrid icon theme of Numix+Yaru using inheritance and maybe symlinks so as to get the nicest parts of each? (Possibly the square Numix instead of circular??)
I think a hybrid theme is too much work that will result in too many broken symlinks, and much pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth on my end. :^D Also, truncate Yaru but install Numix? I thought we were trying to limit the icon package size.

Yes you're right on both points.

Might as well just do a matching bunsen-Numix-circle theme and we can host bunsen-Yaru as an *-extra package if anyone is interested.

Yup.

Numix (square) by itself loses a bunch of icons (Hello again, gnome-terminal icon!), and replaces a few.

Has Square got fewer icons than Circle? Away, gnome-terminal icon!

hhh · 2024-08-27 16:29:55

Numix Circle has /48/apps folder which contains all of the circle icons, including terminal.svg and everything that links to it...

hhh · 2024-08-27 16:31:47

johnraff wrote:

Also @hhh I'm using your Yaru icon set (the first one, not the revised version) and notice the lack of gnominess! Especially that nice clean terminal icon, although the file manager's a bit generic Thunar. I wonder what the difference from your screenshots is?

Can you upload that version somewhere? I binned mine.

johnraff · 2024-08-28 05:40:39

hhh wrote:

Can you upload that version somewhere? I binned mine.

This is what Git is good for. Once committed, never lost.

Anyway, bunsen-yaru-icons_24.04.3-1.1_all.deb (previous version) is what I installed:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/bunsen … .1_all.deb

altman · 2024-08-29 21:02:43

johnraff wrote:

hhh wrote:
Can you upload that version somewhere? I binned mine.
This is what Git is good for. Once committed, never lost.
Anyway, bunsen-yaru-icons_24.04.3-1.1_all.deb (previous version) is what I installed:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bunsen … .1_all.deb

Thx @johnraff , downloaded & installed.

Edit: Props to @hhh also !

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johnraff · 2024-09-07 08:01:51

johnraff wrote:

hhh wrote:
...So I was wondering if that would be easier to figure out than a backport of x-p-m. But if you succeed with another backport... hey!
Give me a couple of days.

I didn't forget this but a lot of other stuff intervened...

I'm in the process of hacking a patched x-p-m but it's proving more difficult this time. That's to be expected as the code moves further away from where it was at the time of the patch. What I tried today - after finally being persuaded to build - made a battery icon on a VM where it ought to be an AC power icon, and black to boot, as it is with the regular x-p-m. I've got one more thing to try tomorrow, or later, and then maybe time to give up.

A pity you seem to have found some issues with m-p-m.

Perhaps a workaround would be one of those little battery icon utilities, wired up to call x-p-m's settings with a right-click. Might not be too much to ask.

johnraff · 2024-09-07 08:11:21

hhh wrote:

The thing is, xfce4-panel is really good, can be configured via its GUI and has lots of useful plugins that can be installed individually or all at once ( xfce4-goodies). It looks great in horizontal mode and can be made to look very nice in deskbar mode. Is tint2 such a staple of #!/BL that we can't propose not using it on our default desktop?

Tint2 is on the way out I guess - freeze on development went out a while ago.

xfce4-panel isn't so bad, though tint2 can be made to look nicer IMO. I've been hoping xfce4-panel will work on Wayland - it's supposed to be there but doesn't seem to have a systray yet. Maybe in another release or two...

But if xfce4-panel is a fix for the x-p-m battery icon issue maybe we ought to consider it.

dhalgren · 2024-09-07 21:15:09

For what it is worth, a non-hacker's opinion:

Xfce4-panel works well enough, having tried it many times over the past years, and I would be happy with it when tint2 inevitably disappears.

For me, the main thing is a good right click menu, and I presume jgmenu is staying (please @malm).

DeepDayze · 2024-09-07 23:09:37

dhalgren wrote:

For what it is worth, a non-hacker's opinion:
Xfce4-panel works well enough, having tried it many times over the past years, and I would be happy with it when tint2 inevitably disappears.
For me, the main thing is a good right click menu, and I presume jgmenu is staying (please @malm).

Jgmenu is pretty mature and feature complete and maybe be made Wayland-aware as well? Tint2 is also pretty much mature and feature complete as well so that could be forked off sometime as well?

Tint2 served us well and hopefully lxpanel could be made just as useful as well, in the event tint2 goes off into the sunset.

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dhalgren · 2024-09-08 13:40:52

Yes, you are correct. I have merely been thoroughly spoilt and don't wish to loose my favourites.

hhh · 2024-09-08 16:42:30

Carbon's main release will definitely use xorg so jgmenu will stay. tint2 will still be in the Debian repos (almost definitely) so you can install and use it if we drop it, we're just discussing options to maintain a unified, attractive default desktop. The black xfce power manager icon in tint2 is quite jarring.

dhalgren · 2024-09-08 20:39:11

Thank you for that @hhh. The advantage of making even a silly comment is that sometimes I learn things (that I should already have known), I suspect).

johnraff · 2024-09-09 09:15:21

DeepDayze wrote:

Jgmenu is pretty mature and feature complete and maybe be made Wayland-aware as well?

@malm has said that he doesn't plan to migrate jgmenu to Wayland:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 46#p136046
But we can go on using it as long as we're on X11...

Tint2 is also pretty much mature and feature complete as well so that could be forked off sometime as well?

If a third party developer were to take over tint2 and continue making it available on Debian, that would be great.
But I don't think the BL team have the reserve capacity to take on many extra projects like that, leaving aside security issues. But as long as it's in the Debian repositories I guess we can consider it OK to use.

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johnraff · 2024-09-12 09:09:35

johnraff wrote:

johnraff wrote:
hhh wrote:
...So I was wondering if that would be easier to figure out than a backport of x-p-m. But if you succeed with another backport... hey!
Give me a couple of days.
I didn't forget this but a lot of other stuff intervened...
I'm in the process of hacking a patched x-p-m but it's proving more difficult this time. That's to be expected as the code moves further away from where it was at the time of the patch. What I tried today - after finally being persuaded to build - made a battery icon on a VM where it ought to be an AC power icon, and black to boot, as it is with the regular x-p-m. I've got one more thing to try tomorrow, or later, and then maybe time to give up.

Time to give up.
The code has just diverged too much.

Perhaps a workaround would be one of those little battery icon utilities, wired up to call x-p-m's settings with a right-click.

There used to be something called "batteryicon" or the like...

But since tint2 seems to be heading into the sunset, we might be better trying to make xfce4-panel look as nice as possible. I don't think it offers anything close to the scope of customization that tint2 has though.

We do know that x-p-m's battery icon looks OK in xfce4-panel, right?

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