Beryllium beta iso available for testing

johnraff · 2022-08-07 03:59:42

keithharsant wrote:

I use the system headless connecting to it with XRDP as it suits my purposes...
I can not open some of the applications- File Manager for example without using the terminal and to get that to work I have to enter the following
xhost +
sudo thunar
thunar
and
xhost +
thunar
Does not work - thunar does not open so I end up having to use thunar as root

Hi Keith, I'm sorry but I have no experience of XRDP. If Lithium ran with no problems, then we need to look at changes in Debian between Buster and Bullseye. There is no difference in the way BL starts applications between Lithium and Beryllium.

Grasping at straws, but:
*) try running bl-file-manager instead of thunar
*) try opening ~/.config/bunsen/environment and editing the last line to

export XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=XFCE

If you get stuck and googling doesn't help, it might be better to start a dedicated help topic in "System Administration".

johnraff · 2022-08-07 04:14:33

Hi ekzotic!

ekzotic wrote:

In the welcome script I chose Bunsen Images Archives and isenkram-cli and it failed to install.
"Unable to locate package bunsen-images-archives"

Unfortunately bunsen-images-archives has not yet been uploaded to the official BL repository. If you don't want to wait for it to arrive, you could temporarily add the development repository archive and key, as at stage 3 here. Then bunsen-images-archives should be available.

As for isenkram-cli, just run bl-welcome one more time, without selecting bunsen-images-archives, and the isenkram install should go OK.

I noticed ram usage on boot is around 700mb vs 300mb for Lithium, do you know why?

Two factors:
1) Debian uses more RAM with each upgrade. This is because of the numerous new libraries etc and can't be helped.
2) Bigger than that, the way conky reports used memory has changed - the new way is in fact more accurate, and other utilities like htop will eventually all match. See this discussion: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=7854
Specifically:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ke … 722c9da773
https://github.com/brndnmtthws/conky/issues/1090

So the memory use increase is not as big as it looks at first.

ekzotic · 2022-08-07 10:14:07

Ok thanks for the info. Everything works now.
Also noticed time was not syncing and timedatectl showed "NTP service: n/a", fixed already.

dolly · 2022-08-21 07:32:38

Oh sweet mama, thank you team! Everything has worked flawlessly so far, nothing annoying to report.

DomOctober · 2022-08-23 01:43:02

Great work and thanks for all the effort, Team! Really digging it so far

kozimodo · 2022-08-25 17:08:03

Installed it in a virtual machine and most everything works great. My only issue is that the way `/etc/os-release` is put together, `deb-get` does not work. A useful reference is this github issue. Not a drop-dead issue -- more of an annoyance.

jr2 · 2022-08-25 22:33:34

^Thanks Kozimodo, I'll have a look at that when I can get back to my BL system (right now trapped in a smartphone). The github issue looks hopeful.

Meanwhile a possible workaround might be to uninstall bunsen-os-release.

rbh · 2022-08-26 09:17:04

Noticed now @johnraff, you have forgotten to include package "hw-probe".

kozimodo · 2022-08-26 15:29:49

@jr2 Uninstalling bunsen-os-release does the trick. Thank you!

jr2 · 2022-08-26 22:38:58

@rbh I can't check here, but isn't hw-probe in the "install favourite packages" menu?

ekzotic · 2022-08-27 16:59:21

What do you think about adding Calculator entry to the menu? Like Calculator,galculator
So you can search it

rbh · 2022-08-27 17:35:27

ekzotic wrote:

What do you think about adding Calculator entry to the menu? Like Calculator,galculator
So you can search it

Galculator was as standard installed in BL Lithium.

The devs disussed application list for Beryllium in okt 2021.
It was decided to not install galculator or gnome-calculator.
We thought that as package X11-apps is installed, giving xcalc, that should be sufficint for basic calculations. For more advanced calculations, user can install their preferred advanced calculator.

Choice of installing Gnome-calculator, was added to menu System -> Install Favorite Packages -> Utilities.

rbh · 2022-08-27 19:07:09

jr2 wrote:

but isn't hw-probe in the "install favourite packages" menu?

Ah, under Utilities, yes.

I remebered wrong. I wanted oit to be installed. One proposition was to add it, with info to the bl-welcome script.

Final decision was to add it to the "Install Favorite packages".

ekzotic · 2022-08-28 14:06:08

rbh wrote:

ekzotic wrote:
What do you think about adding Calculator entry to the menu? Like Calculator,galculator
So you can search it
Galculator was as standard installed in BL Lithium.
The devs disussed application list for Beryllium in okt 2021.
It was decided to not install galculator or gnome-calculator.
We thought that as package X11-apps is installed, giving xcalc, that should be sufficint for basic calculations. For more advanced calculations, user can install their preferred advanced calculator.
Choice of installing Gnome-calculator, was added to menu System -> Install Favorite Packages -> Utilities.

Hmm interesting. I thought galculator was stock. I meant entry for jgmenu.

Tried xcalc. When you said basic you wasn't lying (about looks)

Last edited by ekzotic (2022-08-28 16:26:08)

Sector11 · 2022-08-29 03:24:31

Well, I use xcalc or bc in terminal

dbvolvox · 2022-08-29 07:02:21

I had been using MX21 on my laptop (HP14 i5) and Lithium on my desktop when the laptop boot failed with a device has failed message and no amount of fiddling with MX grub tools or Rescatux could get it back so went for reinstall which would only work with the install thumb drive present so decided to try the Beryllium install.

The install was about the smoothest that I have ever experienced with separate Home partition. More importantly the boot is quick and smooth. As expected I had to install CIFS utils to get my home network but everything "just works" which is the most wonderful thing and best compliment anyone can make about an OS.

So I cannot make even a constructive suggestion just my heartfelt thanks to the development team.

I am using the Rainforest theme and am looking forward to whiling away some time fiddling with my tints and conkys!!

deleted0 · 2022-08-29 16:31:08

dbvolvox wrote:

I am using the Rainforest theme

Please show us a screenshot in the screenshot thread. TIA

Sector11 · 2022-08-29 17:16:51

I just wanna see the conkys

rbh · 2022-09-12 18:56:35

Helplink: Jgmenu => Help & Resources => Debian => Debian Handbook, points to https://debian-handbook.info/browse/buster. Should be https://debian-handbook.info/browse/bullseye (or maybe https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable?).

johnraff · 2022-09-13 02:36:56

rbh wrote:

Helplink: Jgmenu => Help & Resources => Debian => Debian Handbook, points to https://debian-handbook.info/browse/buster. Should be https://debian-handbook.info/browse/bullseye

Thanks for catching this. I've merged your PR on GitHub.

...maybe https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable?

Actually, that looks like the best option - it would save us from having to edit it again for Boron.

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