BunsenLabs Reviews

hhh · 2016-06-06 03:26:40

Manjaro JWM vs BunsenLabs as Lightweight OS (April, 2016)

https://linuxmender.wordpress.com/2016/ … weight-os/

Dang, I really like that Manjaro theme. I'm glad we have some similar theme options. I wish our default conky looked more like that, though.

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=1996

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 018#p29018

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 020#p29020

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-06-06 06:45:33

hhh wrote:

http://www.alwaysintao.com/linux/bunsenlabs-linux/

I left another comment -- sorry, I couldn't resist

johnraff · 2016-06-07 08:39:55

hhh wrote:

http://www.alwaysintao.com/linux/bunsenlabs-linux/

I wasn't happy at all to read:

none of the installation scripts actually install the programs they are supposed to… (and the BL-Welcome which replaces CB-Welcome startup script is equally useless)...

As nobody points out, there's been nothing wrong with our repos that we know of, and no-one else has reported any problems with the pipemenu installs or bl-welcome.

pvsage · 2016-06-07 09:00:06

^ Well, if the guy is so far behind the curve that he doesn't know about the httpredir mirror service... I suppose even that might have problems with his crap internet service though, if nobody is right.

Brian wrote:

(We mostly only ever use Debian to remember how good we have it on working distros.)

Again, . Ever since Squeeze, Debian has been the working distro for me (compared to *buntu derivatives).

@johnraff: From everything I've read here on the forums (and I give just about everything here at least a cursory skim) there ain't a Bi*b*r thing wrong with the scripts or pipemenus in the release ISO.

Sector11 · 2016-06-07 12:33:53

Here another thing from that write up:

The lack of Ubuntu-esque software centers, etc costs this variant a lot but doesn’t prevent me from considering it a spiritual successor.

I know what he can do with that, and I'll help him do it! This is not Ubuntu!

My personal thought is "The lack of Ubuntu-esque software centers is a huge plus!"

pvsage · 2016-06-07 13:18:07

^ "Lack of" is too negative a term. "Freedom from" is better.

I feel I should reiterate that I'm not a *buntu-basher; my first serious steps into Linux were with a Dell-rebranded Hardy Heron. Ubuntu is a nice introductory distro and automagically takes care of the non-free stuff for you; Debian reminds you when you're drinking "free beer".

Sector11 · 2016-06-07 14:00:17

I'm not an Ubuntu basher either but I feel it is being rammed down peoples throats. Hit a search engine with "Debian {something to search for}" and the number of 'Ubuntu' stuff one gets is staggering. And like you I started my Linux journey with Ubuntu - Feisty Fawn 7.04 and I like it.

So today I use "Debian {something to search for} -ubuntu"

Rocky · 2016-06-07 19:11:54

pvsage wrote:

Brian wrote:
(We mostly only ever use Debian to remember how good we have it on working distros.)
Ever since Squeeze, Debian has been the working distro for me ......

As a relative newbie I don't understand the reference to Debian either. I have found it reasonably straightforward to install and it is not a major job to enable the contrib and non-free repos if required. I prefer to stay close to the "mother distro" rather than the derivative. I suppose I may eventually even get to Arch

I don't have BL installed at the minute but when I did (RC1) I had no problems with scripts - on the contrary I found them to be excellent.

hhh · 2016-06-07 20:03:08

One guy had his install go screwy and he ranted on his blog. No biggie.

oswriter · 2016-06-12 22:12:33

The Linux Action Show featured an installation of BL on today's show. I caught the livestream this afternoon, but the show should post later tonight on YouTube. Chris Fisher did a segment on installing Linux on 10-year-old hardware and decided to use BL for his test. He seemed duly impressed, although he kept referring to the distro as "BusinessLabs." :-)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-06-13 06:19:21

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issu … 613#bunsen

fox · 2016-06-13 11:43:38

I saw the DistroWatch review last night. I was disappointed that Jesse didn't like the way the desktop is configured, but that's a personal thing. The one thing he stated that I don't agree with is that "... the experience felt very much like installing Debian and adding the Openbox window manager as a session option." A few years ago I tried installing Openbox to vanilla Debian. The Openbox menu I got was a far cry from the very useful right-click menu in BL, or even in the original Crunchbang. I never could find an easy way to configure it, so I ditched it. Is there a GUI menu editor for Openbox in the Debian repos, or is this an app created specifically for Crunchbang/BL?

Last edited by fox (2016-06-13 11:44:16)

hhh · 2016-06-13 12:07:44

While Debian's version of the installer uses a red, white and grey theme, Bunsen uses a grey-on-grey theme which makes all of the buttons and elements on the screen look as though they have been disabled.

LOL!

In my case, adding the Backports software repository failed and the script abruptly terminated after having run for about forty minutes.

Why did backports fail, I wonder? And 40 minutes for the install script? Does it really take that long to run if you allow it to install everything?

I also wonder why his "About Bunsen Alternatives" menu item was broken.

When running on the desktop computer, Bunsen performed well. The operating system properly set up a network connection, sound worked out of the box and my display's full resolution was used. Bunsen performed quickly in both environments and the Openbox window manager was pleasantly responsive. The distribution was fairly light in memory, using approximately 225MB of RAM when logged into the Openbox environment.

Well thank gawd for that! Meat and potatoes for dinner.

The distribution's hardware and multimedia support were top notch, performance and the interface's responsiveness were excellent and the applications available all worked properly. Openbox has enough configuration tools to make it flexible without being overwhelming. What really sold me on the distribution though was the way Openbox stayed out of my way, a feature I feel Debian's default desktop does not offer.

As far as DistroWatch reviews go, this is a good one!

I'm disappointed that he didn't compare our ISO directly to the other Debian Live ISOs for the installer review nor to jessie task-lxde-desktop for the desktop. Anyway, I'll write jessie a thank you note in the comments later today.

@nobody, I guess we'll see some hits to our servers in the next week!

hhh · 2016-06-13 12:53:17

^ You missed my request when you were composing your post, we should split dev discussion to individual issue threads. Thanks!

damo · 2016-06-13 15:39:19

fox wrote:

... Is there a GUI menu editor for Openbox in the Debian repos, or is this an app created specifically for Crunchbang/BL?

obmenu, which can also be accessed with "Menu -> Preferences -> Openbox -> GUI Menu Editor"

fox · 2016-06-13 16:31:49

Sorry damo, my question wasn't clear. I already knew about the GUI Menu Editor in BL (I like it and use it), but what I wanted to know relates to a reply I would like to write on Distrowatch to their review of BL. My question is whether the GUI Menu Editor comes from the Debian repos, or from those added by BL. In other words, if someone installed just Debian Jessie plus Openbox, would they be able to customize the Openbox menu as easily as they can in BL? Jessie implied that they can in his review, but my recollection is that when I tried installing Openbox on vanilla Debian, there was no easy way for a débutante to customize that menu and the default menu was pretty useless.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-06-13 17:07:54

fox wrote:

if someone installed just Debian Jessie plus Openbox, would they be able to customize the Openbox menu as easily as they can in BL?

Yes.

https://packages.debian.org/jessie/obmenu

fox · 2016-06-13 17:17:16

Glad I asked. Saved me from making an incorrect statement in Distrowatch. Until now I thought that obmenu was a Crunchbang app, carried over to BL. Had I known about it way back when, maybe I could have made a useful menu out of Openbox in vanilla Debian. Still, I didn't have to inquire about it in CB or BL; it hit me in the face when I was checking out their Openbox menu items.

hhh · 2016-06-14 21:48:07

I posted a longer review-of-the-review in comment #51 because attitude.

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue … 13&mode=67

Sector11 · 2016-06-14 22:49:55

hhh wrote:

If you have hay fever, you might find a lovely dandelion wallpaper depressing.

AWESOME! Love your write up, but that line above: PRICELESS!

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