#21 2015-11-30 13:03:53

Sector11

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From: Upstairs

Registered: 2015-08-20

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Re: Maybe a dynamic Openbox menu needed?

@johnraff - I don't think I ever said it/they were annoying!

OpenBox works fine out of the box.  Yes there are pipe menus available all over the net including at the OpenBox site.  But they should be a "users option" to have them or not.

I don't use the Graphics pipemenu ... truth be told my OB setup has been with me since Statler, with tweaks by me along the way.  The stuff I have tested over time, pipe menus included, are either gone or in a sub-menu rarely seen or in some cases never used.  A lot of my menu isn't used anymore, but it's been here for so long I just leave it as is.

Even the complete BunsenLabs OB Menu system is a submenu here, so I can access it to answer questions, I don't use it, but I have edited it to add Feh because I recently saw a post by damo so I though I would try it.

Adding entries with OBMenu is just as easy or even editing the menu.xml is too easy now.

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Gaucho

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Re: Maybe a dynamic Openbox menu needed?

I'll go with the flow on this one, I've been using keyboard shortcuts and xfce4-appfinder exclusively since jessie came out, no matter whether I'm in an Openbox, Xfce or Awesome session.

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ohnonot

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Registered: 2015-09-29

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Re: Maybe a dynamic Openbox menu needed?

yeah, i have a problem with pipemenus myself. i hate it when things don't pop up instantly, when there's the slightest lag while i slide the pointer down the menu.
(but that's just my thing - i don't mean to change bunsenlabs; those pipemenus provide useful functionality esp. for new users)

fwiw, i like a self-updating menu, and i swear on trizen's obmenu-generator.
it pops up near-instantly (at least without icons), but nevertheless, i made it so that it creates a static menu.xml at login:

obmenu-generator -s -c
exec openbox

and that really pops up instantly.

deleted0

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Re: Maybe a dynamic Openbox menu needed?

^  What ohnonot said. Can't abide even the slightest hesitation.  With muscle memory, I get so used to motions I don't even think about it.

Last edited by deleted0 (2015-11-30 21:35:31)

johnraff

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From: Nagoya, Japan

Registered: 2015-09-09

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Re: Maybe a dynamic Openbox menu needed?

@Sector11

most forum members who volunteered an opinion found self-generating menus to be irritating and unwanted.

To be honest, I don't really see why anybody should be annoyed if it was added to the BL openbox menu...

Please don't.  Make it available, but please don't install it by default!

Sorry, you didn't actually use the word "annoying", and HOAS said "irritating", but the "Please" and the exclamation mark led me to think you felt quite strongly about it.

I'm impartial about the pipemenus (which an apps menu would be one more example of)  - clearly they're aimed at new users - and personally I don't find myself using the openbox menu all that often. It's Super+T or Super+F 90% of the time, but it's still handy to have the right-click menu-key option available, along with Alt+F2, Alt+F3 and ADeskBar's @simplemenu... None of that stuff irritates me in the slightest.

I think new users might find it useful, but if the majority of forum members would be irritated to find an "Apps" submenu by default, I wouldn't push it.

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dolly

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From: /lab701

Registered: 2015-10-03

Posts: 490

Re: Maybe a dynamic Openbox menu needed?

Personally I prefer  my menu static. But maybe it would be a good idea to make a sticky in the tips script and tuts part of the forum with the very helpful links from above, since this is a very recurring suggestion as I understand it.

ohnonot

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Registered: 2015-09-29

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Re: Maybe a dynamic Openbox menu needed?

all that said, we need a wiki.
i promise to contribute.

Head_on_a_Stick

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Re: Maybe a dynamic Openbox menu needed?

we need a wiki

IMO we don't have the resources to do that properly.

The current system to forum-based tutorials is the best option for a community of this size.

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seppalta

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Re: Maybe a dynamic Openbox menu needed?

For a tutorial on obmenu-generator, see lxlinux obmenu-generator.  Feel free to link to it or copy any part of it.

ohnonot

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Registered: 2015-09-29

Posts: 5,592

Re: Maybe a dynamic Openbox menu needed?

HoaS, you're right of course.
i came to the same conclusion a little later.