Testing Lithium iso discussion

rbh · 2019-12-22 22:35:20

juancuyo wrote:

Is there a new version of Bunsenlabs based on Debian 10 for 32-bit PCs?

No beta released yet.

hhh · 2019-12-23 01:00:01

I think, correct me if I'm wrong developers, we've decided the CD ISO will be the only 32 bit ISO we're releasing this time. A CD-sized ISO is challenging, and having bl-welcome ready to upgrade it to the full system isn't quite fleshed out yet, I think.

Anyway, @johnraff's away to see his family in England, we'll have to await his return to Japan before the next ISOs are released. It's looking good so far, though. No major bugs reported on this release yet.

Also, to those who've donated in the last few days, thank you!

jr2 · 2019-12-23 13:22:57

^What he said.

If there was a big demand for a full-sized 32bit iso, we might reconsider...

dbvolvox · 2019-12-23 14:22:35

Installation on old test machine..

david@lithium:~$ inxi -F
System:
  Host: lithium Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 
  Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1 Distro: BunsenLabs GNU/Linux 10.0 (Lithium) 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ECS model: GeForce6100PM-M2 v: 2.0 
  serial: <root required> BIOS: Phoenix v: 6.00 PG date: 12/13/2007 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ bits: 64 type: MCP 
  L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
  Speed: 1000 MHz min/max: 1000/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1000 2: 1000 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] driver: nouveau v: kernel 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: nouveau 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1024x768~76Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: NV4C v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6 
Audio:
  Device-1: C-Media CMI8738/CMI8768 PCI Audio driver: snd_cmipci 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet type: network bridge driver: forcedeth 
  IF: enp0s7 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:1e:90:cb:9e:89 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.16 TiB used: 71.98 GiB (6.0%)

Full install of LibreOffice, thunderbird and printer support. Only issue was the need to install additional package libreoffice-gnome to get double clicking on a file on networkshare, in Thunar, to launch libreoffice writer.
Great job guys, thank you.

Colonel Panic · 2019-12-29 22:20:26

An interesting issue here.

I've tried exchanging the menu.xml and rc.xml files supplied with the distro for the ones I use in other distros that I've installed Openbox in (such as Pardus) and I found it reverts to the "standard" ones instead and won't use the settings I've specified, despite the fact that when I look into the /home/.config/openbox and /etc/X11/openbox subdirectories the files I've exchanged the standard ones for are still in place and haven't been overwritten

This isn't much of a problem because the ones supplied work well and are perfectly good (except that I'd like at least four desktops to use rather than two), but I think it's worth noting anyway and to be honest I find it puzzling because it isn't what I'd expect to be happening.

Good job anyway. I'd say lt's almost ready for prime time as it is.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2019-12-29 22:34:21)

damo · 2019-12-29 22:56:23

If you are logging in with the default BL session you won't be using the Openbox configs, but the bl-* files. Choose "Openbox session" when logging in (Settings icon at top right of log-in screen).

I find it puzzling because it isn't what I'd expect to be happening.

It caught me out the first time!

hhh · 2019-12-30 00:58:10

^ So, a Release Note: We now have two sessions available at login, the BL Openbox session that uses our new jgmenu replacement, wallpaper and tint2 and conky and compton settings, etc... and the OOTB Debian session which I haven't played with yet but I assume is pretty stock Debian.

Rebooting to accurately give the keyboard shortcut for the session switcher (I thinks it's Alt+F10 and then arrow keys) and to check out the stock OB session...

hhh · 2019-12-30 01:11:12

^ Mostly confirmed. The shortcut is just Fn10, then arrow left one and down to Openbox, press Enter and then login. The Shutdown shortcut is good to know and that does use Alt, it's Alt+Fn4

The Openbox login is indeed very minimal. You get the login wallpaper as your wallpaper and right-click brings up a very sparse root menu, and that's pretty much it. Configure away to your heart's content.

Colonel Panic · 2019-12-30 21:26:11

Thanks for the information (and damo too)! I'll remember that the next time I log in.

DeepDayze · 2019-12-30 21:52:14

dbvolvox wrote:

Installation on old test machine..
Full install of LibreOffice, thunderbird and printer support. Only issue was the need to install additional package libreoffice-gnome to get double clicking on a file on networkshare, in Thunar, to launch libreoffice writer.
Great job guys, thank you.

Maybe bl-welcome can install that package as part of the LibreOffice installation.

Last edited by DeepDayze (2019-12-30 21:52:36)

rbh · 2019-12-30 23:13:23

dbvolvox wrote:

Only issue was the need to install additional package libreoffice-gnome to get double clicking on a file on networkshare, in Thunar, to launch libreoffice writer.

DeepDayze wrote:

Maybe bl-welcome can install that package as part of the LibreOffice installation.

I don't think neither libreoffice-gnome, nor libreoffice-gtk2 or libreoffice-gtk3, is nessesary for that.
I have checked three installations. None of them have libreoffice-gnome. They all have either or libreoffice-gtk3. I uninstalled libreoffice-gtk2 on one. No problem doubleclick on document in a fileshare to start libreoffice-writer.

On that machine, first Caligra started, no problem to tel filemanager to start writer instead, even with libreoffice-gtk2 removed and no other libreoffice-g* installed.

Sun For Miles · 2019-12-31 01:14:07

Honestly I really like the deafult choice of only LibreOffice Writer and Calc. I can easily slap apt install libreoffice if I want the whole suite.

After some tinkering and adjusting I've got full gray layout:

So far the only counterintuitive things for the first use were applying color theme for window elements (select theme in appereance, then openbox config, then jgmenu sync with openbox), but it's easy after the first time. Customizing lxterminal also wasn't hard when I realised that I had to generate .config file because I've found no way to add new palette besides five default ones.

Here's lxterminal.config with railscasts dark theme I used in the screenshot:

[general]
fontname=Monospace 10
selchars=-A-Za-z0-9,./?%&#:_
scrollback=1000
bgcolor=rgb(43,43,43)
fgcolor=rgb(230,225,220)
palette_color_0=rgb(43,43,43)
palette_color_1=rgb(218,73,57)
palette_color_2=rgb(165,194,97)
palette_color_3=rgb(255,198,109)
palette_color_4=rgb(109,156,190)
palette_color_5=rgb(182,179,235)
palette_color_6=rgb(81,159,80)
palette_color_7=rgb(230,225,220)
palette_color_8=rgb(90,100,126)
palette_color_9=rgb(218,73,57)
palette_color_10=rgb(165,194,97)
palette_color_11=rgb(255,198,109)
palette_color_12=rgb(109,156,190)
palette_color_13=rgb(182,179,235)
palette_color_14=rgb(81,159,80)
palette_color_15=rgb(249,247,243)
color_preset=Custom
disallowbold=false
cursorblinks=false
cursorunderline=false
audiblebell=false
tabpos=top
geometry_columns=80
geometry_rows=24
hidescrollbar=false
hidemenubar=false
hideclosebutton=false
hidepointer=false
disablef10=false
disablealt=false
disableconfirm=false

[shortcut]
new_window_accel=<Primary><Shift>n
new_tab_accel=<Primary><Shift>t
close_tab_accel=<Primary><Shift>w
close_window_accel=<Primary><Shift>q
copy_accel=<Primary><Shift>c
paste_accel=<Primary><Shift>v
name_tab_accel=<Primary><Shift>i
previous_tab_accel=<Primary>Page_Up
next_tab_accel=<Primary>Page_Down
move_tab_left_accel=<Primary><Shift>Page_Up
move_tab_right_accel=<Primary><Shift>Page_Down
zoom_in_accel=<Primary><Shift>plus
zoom_out_accel=<Primary><Shift>underscore
zoom_reset_accel=<Primary><Shift>parenright

I have no complaints regarding this test build, nothing I need was broken. Good job, devs!

rbh · 2020-01-06 10:39:31

grml-rescueboot of lithium dvd, did not work. could not find live iso.

I copied .iso...//live to hd, then boot ok.

johnraff · 2020-01-09 07:11:14

hhh wrote:

the CD ISO will be the only 32 bit ISO we're releasing this time... having bl-welcome ready to upgrade it to the full system...

...is already available. bl-welcome detects a CD install and offers to install bunsen-meta-all which will pull in the full package set, bypassing the need for a separate full-sized 32bit iso.

iMBeCil · 2020-01-09 09:25:11

johnraff wrote:

...is already available. bl-welcome detects a CD install and offers to install bunsen-meta-all which will pull in the full package set, bypassing the need for a separate full-sized 32bit iso.

Woah ... and I impatiently waited for 32 bit version to check it on some older Asus PC eee. (Should have been mentioned somewhere, as iso has 'amd64' in its name ...) Thanks for the info.

johnraff · 2020-01-09 10:02:52

^Sorry, by "already available" I meant the bl-welcome CD detection/upgrade functionality. That works with Helium, and will work with Lithium when we release a 32bit CD iso.

That won't be for a while longer yet, I'm afraid. m(._.)m

hhh · 2020-01-10 01:57:09

^It's a big task. Collapse/consolidate two separate ISOs into one and have bl-welcome prompt for necessary upgrades. I think John already has the script in place for the CD release...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 902#p95902

cherkie · 2020-01-10 05:26:05

howdy! So I am extensively testing, like it a lot, the small things do make me happy (that I hope weren't in Helium, though probably I am just forgetting things).

This isn't a bug, probably, hence me not starting new thread.

Tint2 - by default the position is bottom, and I have found out that the tooltips appear below the tint panel, effectively around my screen hinge.

Like so (you can see the shadow of the tooltip at the bottom part of the prt scr):

I have played around with tint2 config, especially the tooltip section but I am stuck on how to change it so the tooltips would appear above the panel.

PS. Really like how the menu remembers last picked options, Super key and right arrows do wonders.

Last edited by cherkie (2020-01-10 05:34:27)

johnraff · 2020-01-10 05:43:44

Hi Cherkie, thanks for the feedback!
We've noticed the tint2 popup issue, and as far as we can tell, it seems to be a GTK bug. We're still thinking what to do about it, but meanwhile you can work round it by making tint2 a bit smaller.
Change panel_size to 30 instead of 36.

damo · 2020-01-10 08:47:25

Or try changing the padding and icon size:

panel_size = 99% 36

systray_padding = 4 4 3
systray_icon_size = 0

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