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#26 2019-12-13 03:37:08

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

PackRat wrote:

The live session runs really smooth. Nice work.

I agree -- looks like it has everything I'd want in a live session. (I plan to keep Lithium on a flash drive.) I've tried it on a couple of different laptops so far; haven't found any problems yet. The live session boots very quickly, too. Excellent job on this, folks!

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#27 2019-12-13 04:06:33

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

PackRat wrote:

^ Cool

The live session runs really smooth. Nice work.

Wait till you install it and see the new transition from login-to-desktop. Our autostart and themes are on point for an alpha ISO.

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#28 2019-12-13 09:57:35

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#29 2019-12-13 11:27:12

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i tested this today very minimally, i did find an issue with the setting the themes in lxappearance, the gtk theme for yeti would not set in the live session. Obconf would also set the window decor but not the root menu.

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#30 2019-12-13 12:20:34

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

Shortkeys Ctrl+Shift+q to start xbindkeys_show, to show shortkeys does not work.
Menuchoise "Dispaly Keybinds" > Display keybinds in *, works.

Command "xbindkeys_show, in terminal return: "/usr/bin/xbindkeys_show 3: exec: wish: not found"


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#31 2019-12-13 12:58:55

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

Tested in virtual machine and it is beautiful! Love Lithium and especially Lithium Light which was just spot on. Added backports (Debian, not Bunsenlabs) and that worked perfectly.

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#32 2019-12-13 16:59:05

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ohyran wrote:

Tested in virtual machine and it is beautiful! Love Lithium and especially Lithium Light which was just spot on.

Agreed, I'm very happy with BL-Lithium-light. I think BL-Lithium just needs a lighter background color for the Openbox/jgmenu theme for a bit more contrast. I don't know though, I'm using it as-is and I like it.

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#33 2019-12-13 17:37:26

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

Just about to install and will give some feedback.
Once the official ISO is released, can this test installation be fully updated?

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#34 2019-12-13 18:26:45

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clusterF wrote:

Obconf would also set the window decor but not the root menu.

The default root menu? I could be wrong here, but BL is using jgmenu now so Obconf won't impact that. But I kind of lost the plot on the direction they were going with jgmenu when I got busy with other stuff.


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#35 2019-12-13 18:29:45

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hhh wrote:
PackRat wrote:

^ Cool

The live session runs really smooth. Nice work.

Wait till you install it and see the new transition from login-to-desktop. Our autostart and themes are on point for an alpha ISO.

Probably when the official release hits the scene.  Definitely curious to see the final product.


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#36 2019-12-13 18:37:04

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clusterF wrote:

i tested this today very minimally, i did find an issue with the setting the themes in lxappearance, the gtk theme for yeti would not set in the live session. Obconf would also set the window decor but not the root menu.

jgmenu needs the OB theme refreshed.

menu -> Preferences -> jgmenu -> Sync Theme with Openbox


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#37 2019-12-14 01:14:23

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damo wrote:
clusterF wrote:

i tested this today very minimally, i did find an issue with the setting the themes in lxappearance, the gtk theme for yeti would not set in the live session. Obconf would also set the window decor but not the root menu.

jgmenu needs the OB theme refreshed.

menu -> Preferences -> jgmenu -> Sync Theme with Openbox

Ok so its all jgmenu now, even the right click menu. That worked but the gtk theme seems ok for most other apps except for thunar in the live session which stays the same and wont change to yeti for me.

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#38 2019-12-14 01:30:09

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^ That's because thunar is running in daemon mode and won't show any new gtk changes from lxappearance.  You need to do "killall thunar" then open it up.

Note if you kill thunar daemon it won't auto open removable volumes after that.  Unless you rerun it in daemon mode.

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#39 2019-12-14 01:45:25

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

rbh wrote:

Shortkeys Ctrl+Shift+q to start xbindkeys_show, to show shortkeys does not work.
Menuchoise "Dispaly Keybinds" > Display keybinds in *, works.

Command "xbindkeys_show, in terminal return: "/usr/bin/xbindkeys_show 3: exec: wish: not found"

Thanks, you've found a bug in ~/.xbindkeysrc. The xbindkeys_show item should have been commented out because we no longer ship the necessary tk package by default. It's a bit big (7MB install with dependencies) for an app to prettify the content of .xbindkeysrc, which is easy enough to read as-is, and we also have the keybinds display pipemenu as you say. (Maybe we should move or copy that pipemenu entry to Preferences>Keybinds?)

We should add this to the eventual release notes perhaps:
Anyone who wants to use xbindkeys_show should install tk and uncomment the entries in ~/.xbindkeysrc and ~/.config/jgmenu/prepend.csv.


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#40 2019-12-14 01:49:16

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redrobo66 wrote:

Once the official ISO is released, can this test installation be fully updated?

Yes, but the BL repository URL in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list will have to be updated to the official repo. We'll post a note about that when the official iso comes out.


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#41 2019-12-14 09:14:16

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

cog wrote:

^ That's because thunar is running in daemon mode and won't show any new gtk changes from lxappearance.  You need to do "killall thunar" then open it up.

Note if you kill thunar daemon it won't auto open removable volumes after that.  Unless you rerun it in daemon mode.

Ok thanks for that. I see why now as thunar is from the xfce desktop and it uses a different kind of theme switch utility.

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#42 2019-12-14 10:10:14

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rbh wrote:
unklar wrote:

    I don't understand why the simple question "Do you want to use the existing swap or do you want to create a new swap" is still not used in the installer.

That is how Debian Installer works. You can ask the Debian Installer Team to implement that. Contactinfo on https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Team.
Rewrite the installer, is quite a heavy work I suppose...

They could do it with calamares, but their philosophy speaks against it   monkey

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#43 2019-12-14 18:06:56

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

unklar wrote:
rbh wrote:
unklar wrote:

    I don't understand why the simple question "Do you want to use the existing swap or do you want to create a new swap" is still not used in the installer.

That is how Debian Installer works. You can ask the Debian Installer Team to implement that.
Rewrite the installer, is quite a heavy work I suppose...

They could do it with calamares, but their philosophy speaks against it

Who "They" do you refer could do what?

Calamares does not ask question about reusing existing swapfile as I remember...


BTW, it was said that Calamares was to be part of BL litium Live. Is that still a goal?
I installed Calamares in persistent live dist. Installer quit when it could not read sqashfs. Even after editing path to sqashfs...


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#44 2019-12-15 02:42:23

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rbh wrote:

BTW, it was said that Calamares was to be part of BL litium Live. Is that still a goal?

It was thought about at one point, but seemed a bit unreliable at the time. Maybe some day, but not for Lithium.


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#45 2019-12-15 09:41:41

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

I have finally found some time for playing with the test iso. Vary basic so far -- only live session in virtual machine so not many data points yet:

* Looks good.
* Surfs the web OK. Maybe the default search engine should be changed?
* So far I have failed to make Lithium understand I have a Swedish keyboard.

/Martin


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#46 2019-12-15 11:26:33

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Martin wrote:

* So far I have failed to make Lithium understand I have a Swedish keyboard. /Martin


Yes, on many live/rescue CD, it is possible to change Keyboard (Knoppix). It would been realey nice to be able to install non-english keyboards when boot, as SystemRescueCD.

But, at least maybe an link on menu to informative yad howto change:

1. As root, change default keyboard in BL-live cd
   In /etc/locales.gen add or uncheck your desired keyboard layouts:
       en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8
       # en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
       sv_SE.UTF-8 UTF-8
    
2. Install needed software:
    # apt install keyboard-configuration console-setup
run  
    # dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
    # service keyboard-setup restart
    # udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change

3. scheck:
    # locale
    # localectl status

For more information about changing defult keyboard and locales, see:
https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard   and
https://wiki.debian.org/Locale

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#47 2019-12-15 21:59:03

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

Hi All

I succesfully installed lithium with issues.  Thanks for all of the hard work.

Manufacturer: Supermicro
Product Name: C7Z170-M
NVIDIA Quadro 4000

The only issue that I had was with install the unifi controller which has a conflict with the mongodb version.  This is a Debian Buster problem and not BL.

I did have a small issue with the intel video drivers performance.  There was a lag when I moved windows around but I immediately installed the nvidia drivers with the screen tearing fix.

All done and up and running.

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#48 2019-12-16 08:18:27

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Martin wrote:

* Surfs the web OK. Maybe the default search engine should be changed?

We don't touch Firefox, so the default search engine is whatever Firefox provides.

* So far I have failed to make Lithium understand I have a Swedish keyboard.

Is the Swedish layout not available? To get a Japanese keyboard layout on a live session I just have to open a terminal and run:

setxkbmap jp

Try se?


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#49 2019-12-16 11:04:13

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deadface wrote:

I did have a small issue with the intel video drivers performance.  There was a lag when I moved windows around but I immediately installed the nvidia drivers with the screen tearing fix.

We tried using a conf file to help with intel, but it produced bad results when used with other video setups so we removed it from the default setup. Anyway, it's from the Arch wiki and the file is in /etc/X11. Create the folder xorg.conf.d and in it create 20-intel.conf with the following content and reboot...

Section "Device"
  Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
  Driver      "intel"
    Option "AccelMethod"      "sna"
    Option "TearFree"         "true"
EndSection

Works for me on my old Dell Inspiron, but your mileage may vary. Source and more 20-intel.conf options...

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/In … cs#Tearing

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_graphics

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#50 2019-12-16 17:09:59

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Re: Testing Lithium iso discussion

johnraff wrote:

Is the Swedish layout not available?

setxkbmap se

Confirmed. Indeed it is.
Information how to change keyboard should go in to Bunsen Welcome text.
Maybe an menu shortcut to selector?


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