jgmenu as default menu generator for Lithium?

dhalgren · 2019-06-16 06:31:51

@Malm. No, I think that would be intrusive.

It would be easy to just put a note in the bl-welcome, for new users. For those who have been using BL since #!, I am sure it will be sorted out (even I would have found it eventually, I was mostly being lazy in asking). I also was tricked by the lack of a search box, but now much prefer it without.

Also, it would be easy to make a sticky post pointing out new and different features, even if there are only a few of these.

As for the prepend.csv, I was going to add some 12 programmes that I use a lot to it, but not having to do because of the ability to search, so is easy for everyone.

xarcher · 2019-06-16 19:49:23

I found the search feature of jgmenu by accident and liked how quickly it worked so I made a keybind for it in i3 instead of using dmenu. That way I can execute by typing or look through the menu when I can't remember the name of what I want. (This seems to be happening more frequently lately.)

tynman · 2019-06-17 14:11:12

The "invisible" search feature in jgmenu is awesome - I use it now much more than the visible part of the menu. (And of course, the beauty of Openbox/BunsenLabs... I open 80% of my apps with a hot-key, no menu navigation required). But I was slow to catch on.

When I first encountered a similar menu search feature - I believe it was in Ubuntu/Gnome quite a few years ago before I discovered Crunchbang - I was horrified.. outraged ... how could I possibly be expected to remember the names of all the applications?!

Crunchbang/BL has the ALT-F3 menu (dmenu?) which also has a search thing, but that didn't really catch on in my wee brain. Which probably explains why I took the time to define keyboard shortcuts in Openbox for all my "everyday" apps.

But then MS introduced a menu search in the the main menu in Windows 7 (which I use at my job). Very soon I got used to it and started using it all the time. I was very pleased to find it in jgmenu. And I would vote to keep it invisible.

johnraff · 2019-06-18 02:52:06

tynman wrote:

... how could I possibly be expected to remember the names of all the applications?!

There is that, and it's the basic reason there's a place for GUIs along with terminals. Sometimes you don't know exactly what you want till you find it.

ohnonot · 2019-06-18 04:51:09

johnraff wrote:

it's the basic reason there's a place for GUIs along with terminals. Sometimes you don't know exactly what you want till you find it.

I've been thinking about that quite often.
The cluttered Desktop.
I don't have that; and I wonder: do people really work like that?
I don't; the only exception being games:
I have this long list of FOSS games installed and only ever play one or two of them, but keep scrolling down that list hoping to find some hidden gem, swearing because the icons are too small.
I would need a separate game launcher.

In other words, in 99% of all cases I already know the name of the application and dmenu_run is enough to launch it.
But alas, there still is that 1% which is all the reason I require a dynamic app menu.

malm · 2019-07-22 20:32:39

I've pushed v3.3 which supports parsing bl-rc.xml to get the openbox theme without having to set the environment variable.

The following should now work out of the box (or the equivalent in interactive mode).

jgmenu init --apply-obtheme

damo · 2019-07-22 20:57:14

OK, after my latest brain-fade I've completely missed how jgmenu (and xbindkeysrc) is autostarted 8o How do I disable it to get back my OB menu and keybinds?

johnraff · 2019-07-23 04:58:24

malm wrote:

I've pushed v3.3 which supports parsing bl-rc.xml to get the openbox theme without having to set the environment variable.

Is the environment variable still respected, if set? So, someone who had both bl-rc.xml and rc.xml could force jgmenu to use the latter (if they had some reason to want that...)

malm · 2019-07-23 05:10:00

^ Yes.

johnraff · 2019-07-23 05:14:22

damo wrote:

OK, after my latest brain-fade I've completely missed how jgmenu (and xbindkeysrc) is autostarted 8o How do I disable it to get back my OB menu and keybinds?

jgmenu is not autostarted - you call it when you want it with jgmenu_run. The OB menu remains available as before, if you configure it in bl-menu.xml and set a keybind for it. (BL Lithium retains <keybind key="A-C-q"> for this but of course you can set what you want.)

But, why not just edit jgmenu to suit your needs?
The syntax is very simple, and much less work than OB's xml IMO:

label,command

If you hate seeing an auto-generated "applications" submenu in the middle of it, comment out line 14 of ~/.config/jgmenu/prepend.csv:

#Applications,^checkout(lx-apps)

But @malm can answer better than I can. The jgmenu documentation is also very thorough, and usually up to date.

If you don't want to use xbindkeys to set keybinds you can disable it in ~/.config/bunsen/autostart line 14

#xbindkeys_autostart

But again, you could just use xbindkeys instead of rc.xml. It also has a simpler syntax I think.

hhh · 2019-08-15 01:31:48

dhalgren wrote:

What is
@search,,1,3,150,20,2,left,top,auto,#000000 0,Search...
And why is it there?
It appears to do nothing but sit at the top of the menu saying "Search..."
Or is there something I need to install for it to do something?
Needless ot say, I have looked for informatin on this, but I seem not to be very good at finding the information I need.
Beyond this oddity, I am quite enjoying using jgmenu, although I have not yet made it default.

I just booted into KDE Plasma for the first time in a couple of months. The overlay-search option they provide has the following in huge letters at the top of the screen...

Type to search.

@malm, proposal to change the current static "Search" menu item to "Type to search." for clarity. Bold font to make it look like a menu header?

Wismut · 2019-08-15 09:54:07

hhh wrote:

@malm, proposal to change the current static "Search" menu item to "Type to search." for clarity. Bold font to make it look like a menu header?

I second that. But I'd find it nice if the dot at the end was omitted, because this also annoyed me when I tested Plasma.

Last edited by Wismut (2019-08-15 09:55:03)

malm · 2019-08-15 20:43:18

@hhh, @Wismut

Like this?

Pull Request #94

hhh · 2019-08-16 03:39:09

Yes, +1!

Wismut · 2019-08-16 07:40:02

Yes, this looks good

DeepDayze · 2019-08-16 18:46:09

Ditto...that'll work @malm.

malm · 2019-08-16 19:04:14

@misko_2083
Looks good.
I'll await some forum feedback.
@hhh, @johnraff - any views?

damo · 2019-08-16 22:20:59

"Type to Search" seems nice and descriptive to me.

dolly · 2019-08-17 06:56:09

Yes, looks very nice.

rbh · 2019-08-17 10:00:00

"Type to search", works.
"Search program...", could also work...

But, maybe that entry and "Run Program", shold move to bottom of meny? It would then be quicker to choose them both with keybord and mouse.

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