[SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

thia11 · 2018-11-14 08:07:18

ohnonot wrote:

thia11 wrote:
âŽś   â†ł FTE1001:00 0B05:0101                    	id=11	[slave  pointer  (2)]
what's with the weird characters?
anyhow, on my system this shows the make/model of the device.
you have to find out more about this device.
maybe
dmesg|grep '0B05:0101'
???

the weird characters are just the arrows you get with the command, but messed up because some reasons

this command gives me:

dmesg: read kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted

iMBeCil and I concluded that the device uses xinput, so maybe we can start from there.

damo · 2018-11-14 09:41:37

^ You need to use 'sudo' with dmesg, with recent Debian releases.

iMBeCil · 2018-11-14 09:43:33

thia11 wrote:

this command gives me:

dmesg: read kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted

Use

$ sudo dmesg|grep '0B05:0101'

('dmesg' requires elevated privileges).

EDIT: ah ... ninja'd by damo.

Last edited by iMBeCil (2018-11-14 09:43:57)

iMBeCil · 2018-11-14 09:47:17

thia11 wrote:

iMBeCil and I concluded that the device uses xinput, so maybe we can start from there.

Please, post output of

$ xinput --list-props 11

In the meantime, as ohnonot suggested in post #14, try something like

$ xinput --set-prop 11 'libinput Accel Speed' 1

to change the acceleration speed (whatever it is). Try with different values instead of '1' and see if touchpad behaviour changes. Adjust according to personal preference.

Last edited by iMBeCil (2018-11-14 09:49:08)

thia11 · 2018-11-14 15:18:13

iMBeCil wrote:

Please, post output of
$ xinput --list-props 11

Here it is:

Device 'FTE1001:00 0B05:0101':
	Device Enabled (140):	1
	Coordinate Transformation Matrix (150):	1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
	libinput Accel Speed (278):	0.000000
	libinput Accel Speed Default (279):	0.000000
	libinput Accel Profiles Available (280):	1, 1
	libinput Accel Profile Enabled (281):	1,0
	libinput Accel Profile Enabled Default (282):	1,0
	libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (283):	0
	libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (284):	0
	libinput Send Events Modes Available (263):	1, 0
	libinput Send Events Mode Enabled (264):	0, 0
	libinput Send Events Mode Enabled Default (265):	0, 0
	libinput Left Handed Enabled (285):	0
	libinput Left Handed Enabled Default (286):	0
	libinput Scroll Methods Available (278):	0, 0, 1
	libinput Scroll Method Enabled (288):	0, 0, 0
	libinput Scroll Method Enabled Default (289):	0, 0, 0
	libinput Button Scrolling Button (290):	0
	libinput Button Scrolling Button Default (291):	0
	Device Node (266):	"/dev/input/event1"
	Device Product ID (267):	2821, 257
	libinput Drag Lock Buttons (292):	<no items>
	libinput Horizontal Scroll Enabled (293):	1

I notice some things are significantly different than on your computer. Like button scrolling button, methods available, I don't have disable while typing, and accel stuff is different, and I have a "profile". Why are my settings so fucky?

damo · 2018-11-14 16:20:42

man libinput

man 4 libinput

Looks like you are using libinput to manage your touchpad. Try reading the documentation, and changing your settings.

iMBeCil · 2018-11-14 16:46:52

thia11 wrote:

I notice some things are significantly different than on your computer. Like button scrolling button, methods available, I don't have disable while typing, and accel stuff is different, and I have a "profile". Why are my settings so fucky?

Fucky 8) settings? Because, I have macbook pro, which is I suppose a bit more advanced than your asus hardware.

Frankly, you shouldn't take my values too seriously as a reference values, because these might really be strongly manufacturer dependent.

Anyway, as several people here already suggested, now it is up to you to find the values for particular setting, which will make your touchpad working nicely So, go, play

thia11 · 2018-11-14 19:40:53

Sooo, is this a bug or a feature? Does Debian has the same problem? Did my touchpad mess it up, or should bunsenlabs have some kind of correctly pre-configured profile ready? Can I change to synaptics or something? I sure ain't gonna change these things line by line, tapping in the dark. I need the config file so I can black it up in case I mess up, but there are like 7 locations where it could be, and I can't find it.

Maybe I should just give up and use it as bad as it is. This is why I don't like linux. You always have to fix stuff for a few weeks until everything works correctly. Yea, yea, I know I picked the most obscure distro there is, but cmon, it's the same on most I've tried. There is always something... It's annoying after like the 10th distro. I always end up with a massive text file full of "things to fix after installation", but I then never go back to the distro so that's useless anyway >;(

damo · 2018-11-14 20:35:19

Read the next few posts from https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 741#p27741, and read the link in post#4 (change back to synaptic).

On a more general note, if you choose relatively light distros like Bunsenlabs then you must expect to do some configuration yourself (especially on old or very new hardware). To avoid that you can install something that has tons of possible configurations, built by a large organisation with a lot of developers, along with the consequent package bloat. On saying that, you seem to have old hardware so you may just have to suck it up.

If you are frustrated by this, then stick to 'buntu, or Mint, or Windows.

ohnonot · 2018-11-15 07:06:37

thia11 you now have sevaeral people helping you.
i admit, it's confusing, but it's up to you to read and re-read any advice given and act upon it and report back.
e.g. the dmesg output is still missing.
but i don't think we need it anymore, because your xinput output shows that your touchpad is quite configurable.
it is now up to you to find out how to manipulate these options to suit your needs!
i gave you an example earlier - it was just an example to show how tricky that is. one mistyped letter, and the option likely will be ignored.
so please don't tell us "i tried and it didn't work".
for each try, show us

the article yiou used for documentation, and which part of it
the full command and
its full output
explain the outcome

thia11 · 2018-11-15 10:17:22

ok, guys, thanks very much for the effort.

$ xinput --set-prop 11 'libinput Accel Speed' 1

kinda worked. I think the mouse feels a bit better. But DisableWhileTyping, not Disable While Typing, nor Disable While Typing Enabled work, so I guess, that's it. I already added the step-by step instructions how to get your device id, and how to fix acceleration into my massive "things to fix" text file, so that's that. Episodes like this really make me hate Linux, and using the terminal also because I'm afraid I'll brick something. But now I finally set up my rig after 2 weeks of back and forth and random fixes, so it will be good now I think.

Thanks again.

thia11 · 2018-11-15 10:21:33

thia11 wrote:

ok, guys, thanks very much for the effort.
$ xinput --set-prop 11 'libinput Accel Speed' 1
kinda worked. I think the mouse feels a bit better. But DisableWhileTyping, not Disable While Typing, nor Disable While Typing Enabled don't work and I always get an error, so I guess, that's it. I already added the step-by step instructions how to get your device id, and how to fix acceleration into my massive "things to fix" text file, so that's that. Episodes like this really make me hate Linux, and using the terminal also because I'm afraid I'll brick something. But now I finally set up my rig after 2 weeks of back and forth and random fixes, so it will be good now I think.
Thanks again.

Edit: I quoted myself. Don't you just love forums... xDDD I dunno how to delete it

Last edited by thia11 (2018-11-15 10:22:45)

damo · 2018-11-15 10:48:10

^ Choose "Edit" if you want to edit your post.

If you think the question is solved, then if you also edit the title of your first post, and add "[SOLVED]" it may help others looking for answers.

ohnonot · 2018-11-16 20:03:04

thia11 wrote:

$ xinput --set-prop 11 'libinput Accel Speed' 1
kinda worked.

strange.
i just posted this as an example to show how one sets properties with xinput; the setting itself has very little to do with your problem, and i don't even know if the touchpad is on the same id number in your case.
what i (and others) really meant was that you should make an effort to research things with the hints we give you. not ready-made solutions.

#21 2018-11-14 08:07:18

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#22 2018-11-14 09:41:37

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#23 2018-11-14 09:43:33

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#24 2018-11-14 09:47:17

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#25 2018-11-14 15:18:13

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#26 2018-11-14 16:20:42

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#27 2018-11-14 16:46:52

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#28 2018-11-14 19:40:53

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#29 2018-11-14 20:35:19

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#30 2018-11-15 07:06:37

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#31 2018-11-15 10:17:22

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#32 2018-11-15 10:21:33

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#33 2018-11-15 10:48:10

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

#34 2018-11-16 20:03:04

Re: [SOLVED] Mouse on touchpad behaves weirdly

Board footer