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#51 2018-03-03 01:52:21

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

johnraff wrote:

If archive.org is very slow, I could also put the files on Google drive, as before?

That would be my preference — rtorrent is apparently not accepted by archive.org and their servers are very slow for me (UK).

johnraff wrote:

There is already a "BunsenLabs_Grey" which is meant to be that very thing.

Ah yes, of course, I should have checked properly before posting that glasses

I've just tested the alpha6 ISO, I removed all my boot hacks (there were several) but it still just blasted through the GRUB stage without so much as a by your leave, dumped the files on the ESP and added an NVRAM boot entry.

I can't tell if the installer attempted to re-order the entries because my laptop's UEFI is completely broken and on reboot it would only start Win10 unless the firmware boot menu was used (as before), this is completely normal for this machine.

The good news is that BunsenLabs found my Windows .efi loader and made a boot entry for it so that all seems to work, I think my problems are because my UEFI implementation is so crappy.


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#52 2018-03-03 02:04:58

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

^archive.org's torrent link worked fine for me with transmission.
Anyway Google do not offer torrent links at all (do they?), but in future (not so many more I guess) I'll just upload to both.

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I haven't got any EFI machines to rest on, but I'll try installing to an EFI VM and see what happens at the grub stage.


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#53 2018-03-03 02:11:46

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

johnraff wrote:

archive.org's torrent link worked fine for me with transmission.

I get this message from rtorrent:

Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."]
johnraff wrote:

Anyway Google do not offer torrent links at all (do they?)

No but I'm sure the big G can spare the bandwidth glasses


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#54 2018-03-03 02:15:41

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

(I wonder what rtorrent's done to annoy archive.org?)


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#55 2018-03-03 04:17:16

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Will give it a go in the morning..

Cheers!
Tim


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#56 2018-03-03 11:43:57

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Downloaded helium-alpha4-amd64.iso and dd to a usb stick.  Ran live sessions on HP255 G4 laptop a 2015 quad core 1.2MHz; HP14 laptop a 2017 dual core i5 3.1 Mhz and an old desktop a 2007 AMD 64 dual core 2.4Mhz. No problems so did full install on the desktop which went smoothly.

Minor niggles. LibreOffice doesn't work across local network unless I install libreoffice-gnome which is not a big problem if one knows that it is needed for GIO support. Should this package be included with menu item 'install full LO'?
The printer support couldn't find a driver for my Lexmark laser so had to download PPD.

Wallpaper -currently BL-beam-grey (bit traditional I know) I do like the idea of the emission-grey but it needs to be Helium not Hydrogen (and the spectrum shown is the absorption not the emission!)

So, in terms of general email/documents/photos user it looks ready to go.

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#57 2018-03-03 12:01:58

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

dbvolvox wrote:

the spectrum shown is the absorption not the emission!

I am so sorry about that, I don't know how I missed such an egregious error  ops

We will have to change the names to absorption-{blue,green,grey}.png, I think.


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#58 2018-03-03 13:50:06

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Update: the Debian stretch (netinstall) ISO image also skips through the UEFI bootloader section without asking, this appears to be the expected behaviour hmm

In fairness to Debian multiple UEFI loaders are pretty simple to manage via the firmware options (and `efibootmgr`, if it works) so this isn't as big a problem as would first appear.


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#59 2018-03-03 18:07:07

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

This phpmyadmin dialog looks hideous.
We are going to need to tweak the palette somewhat. For now, I put back the previous CrunchBang/Hydrogen palette, and have already uploaded a fixed bunsen-configs (9.3.7-1) with that. I thought it was somewhat urgent, considering those dialogue boxes (for example, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales') were almost unreadable. The #! palette doesn't affect the basic appearance - text, background, etc - but has made the prompt that nasty lime green again neutral

If you can come up with something a bit more civilized while keeping the boxes readable, that would be great!

Progress Indicators:
Next Version. Cool. I'll try to put a note somewhere or drop an issue on github as a reminder.

Terminator Config:
I worked up a config that hopefully fixes the issues with ncurses dialogs. NOTE: I have not translated this for urxvt yet. The default font is a bit small for me but that's ok. I prefer Noto Mono 11 for readability with my old eyes. Here is a screenshot and the config.
Screenshot_2018-03-03_11-51-57.th.png

[global_config]
  dbus = False
  title_font = Monospace 11
  title_inactive_bg_color = "#2e3436"
  title_inactive_fg_color = "#888a85"
  title_receive_bg_color = "#2e3436"
  title_transmit_bg_color = "#2e3436"
  title_transmit_fg_color = "#6daaaa"
  title_use_system_font = False
[keybindings]
  hide_window = <Shift><Control>a
[layouts]
  [[default]]
    [[[child1]]]
      parent = window0
      type = Terminal
    [[[window0]]]
      parent = ""
      size = 680, 535
      type = Window
[plugins]
[profiles]
  [[default]]
    background_color = "#082b4a"
    background_darkness = 0.9
    background_type = transparent
    cursor_color = "#6ab3b3"
    cursor_color_fg = False
    font = Monospace 10
    foreground_color = "#add8e6"
    palette = "#555753:#a40000:#729fcf:#d9c964:#204a87:#9a64d9:#64d9d5:#d3d7cf:#babdb6:#d98f93:#13b9b9:#d9cf8f:#8f99d9:#b08fd9:#8fd9d5:#c5c5c5"
    scrollback_infinite = True
    scrollback_lines = 5000
    scrollbar_position = hidden
    show_titlebar = False
    use_system_font = False
  [[Hydrogen]]
    background_color = "#2e3436"
    background_darkness = 0.83
    background_type = transparent
    color_scheme = custom
    cursor_color = "#d8d8d8"
    font = Monospace 10
    foreground_color = "#d8d8d8"
    palette = "#000000:#cc0000:#4e9a06:#c4a000:#3465a4:#75507b:#06989a:#d3d7cf:#555753:#ef2929:#8ae234:#fce94f:#729fcf:#ad7fa8:#34e2e2:#eeeeec"
    scrollback_infinite = True
    scrollback_lines = 5000
    scrollbar_position = hidden
    show_titlebar = False
    use_system_font = False

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#60 2018-03-03 22:40:38

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

After the first update/upgrade: I notice a warning regarding CRYPTSETUP, proably you are already aware of it...

jesito@3Dprint:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  linux-image-4.9.0-6-amd64 linux-libc-dev
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 40.3 MB of archives.
After this operation, 4,096 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
Get:1 [url]http://security.debian.org/debian-security[/url] stretch/updates/main amd64 linux-image-4.9.0-6-amd64 amd64 4.9.82-1+deb9u3 [39.0 MB]
Get:2 [url]http://security.debian.org/debian-security[/url] stretch/updates/main amd64 linux-libc-dev amd64 4.9.82-1+deb9u3 [1,320 kB]
Fetched 40.3 MB in 1min 16s (526 kB/s)                                                        
(Reading database ... 126157 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../linux-image-4.9.0-6-amd64_4.9.82-1+deb9u3_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking linux-image-4.9.0-6-amd64 (4.9.82-1+deb9u3) over (4.9.82-1+deb9u2) ...
Preparing to unpack .../linux-libc-dev_4.9.82-1+deb9u3_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking linux-libc-dev:amd64 (4.9.82-1+deb9u3) over (4.9.82-1+deb9u2) ...
Setting up linux-libc-dev:amd64 (4.9.82-1+deb9u3) ...
Setting up linux-image-4.9.0-6-amd64 (4.9.82-1+deb9u3) ...
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools:
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-6-amd64
WARNING: Setting CRYPTSETUP in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf is deprecated and will stop working in the future. Use /etc/cryptsetup-initramfs/conf-hook instead.
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub:
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found background image: /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-6-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-6-amd64
Generating custom entry for: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-6-amd64
initrd image OK: /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-6-amd64
grub background_image is BL default, setting text colors
done

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#61 2018-03-03 22:59:47

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

dbvolvox wrote:

the spectrum shown is the absorption not the emission!

The PR to fix that has been submitted, let's see what the Team make of the suggestion:

https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-im … tra/pull/1


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#62 2018-03-04 06:18:13

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

I tested version 6 now, and tap to click and edge scrolling works in live mode.

It really feels complete now, i cannot see anything that does not work. However in "live mode" selecting a wifi network does not connect, from going online.

will this now be released?

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#63 2018-03-04 10:56:05

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

pamir wrote:

will this now be released?

Very soon, yes, but we just want to make absolutely sure there are no bugs in the release because our configuration mechanism means that any changes must be applied manually by the user rather the automatically by the package manager.


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#64 2018-03-04 19:08:48

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Just wanted to say I've been running a fresh BL install from the latest alpha ISO for about 24 hours now with no noticeable issues. Nice work!

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#65 2018-03-04 19:35:47

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Curious why Dropbox was included in bl-welcome.  Seems like it should be an optional install for the same reason SSH was moved out of bl-welcome in deuterium.

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#66 2018-03-04 19:38:15

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

We went over it and most folks seemed to want to keep it.

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#67 2018-03-04 21:29:21

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
iMBeCil wrote:

Personal opinion: as much as it works, this green colour is stab in my eye ... too bad the BL deviated from the old #! design

Have you tried the BLOB configurator?

Of course, I've been talking about OOTB experience ...

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
iMBeCil wrote:

Why xen? Go for kvm

Been there, done that:

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=1546 big_smile

Nothing much to do for KVM anyway, BunsenLabs will work very nicely OOTB.

Oh, yes ... now I remember your post about kvm.

I can only say that there nothing particularly interesting in xen, too ... simply a few 'apt-get install's and simple grub setup (make xen-kernel default, and possibly set up max dom0 memory size). Real fun and problems start when one tries to setup domU's. And really difficult part (for me at least) were setting up the port tunnels (actually NAT) from real ehternet card toward (server) domUs NICs ... Of course this is not needed for simple 'client-only' domU's.

In a nutshell, one can say the kvm is already inside kernel, xen isn't.

EDIT: forgot to inform devs that I have installed BL alpha6 on my old and faithful Dell XPS M1530 (i.e. on bar metal), and it works like a charm, not a single problem, at least not during 2 hours while I was installing all stuff from menus smile There ya go ... congrats. Make it official iso already smile

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#68 2018-03-04 21:54:31

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Just downloaded Ultimaker Cura 3.2.1 as an Appimage. Changing the user rights to add "execute" and it started and worked fine. No troubles so far.

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#69 2018-03-04 22:00:10

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

I installed alpha5 last night. Used text installer. No issues.

I wiped the whole laptop SSD, and let the installer do its thing.

Comments from kids: "Dad that's beautiful - much better than Ubuntu and Arch".

I had forgotten how impressive bl-welcome is. Super effort.

I love the way you manage to keep it simple. Not completely minimalist - but very consistent and balanced.

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#70 2018-03-04 22:58:50

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

I issued a PR on Github for the modified Terminator config as well as a modified .Xresources. See post #59 for details. Also, the Terminator config file holds a profile called "Hydrogen" that uses Bunselabs Hydrogen's default terminal colors.

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#71 2018-03-05 05:24:52

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Installed on 64 bit Alpha 6 Lenovo X1 Carbon gen1 - no problems

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#72 2018-03-05 08:00:38

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Alpha - 6, nothing weird as far as I can tell. smile

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#73 2018-03-05 16:02:10

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

It's been running on a lenovo x230 for the last couple of days, installed Kodi, Apache, Screenfetch, etc. Got everything up and running, no issues to report. Beautiful design, easy to install, Excellent Work! big_smile

Cheers

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#74 2018-03-05 16:48:45

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Just one small point: when I use "BLOB Themes Manager" and select the 'Crunchbang' theme, a small window appears complaining about missing 'bunsen-faenza-icon-theme' package.

Simple 'apt-get install' resolves this problem. Note: during install, I have choose to install "Bunsen Extra Images".

However, I think it should be installed during (i.w. alongside) "Bunsen Extra Images" inside bl-welcome, if user choose this option? It seems to be a logical place to put it?


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#75 2018-03-05 17:25:31

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Re: Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

iMBeCiI wrote:

Just one small point: when I use "BLOB Themes Manager" and select the 'Crunchbang' theme, a small window appears complaining about missing 'bunsen-faenza-icon-theme' package.

^ #50

johnraff wrote:

There is already a "BunsenLabs_Grey" which is meant to be that very thing. If you prefer the grey "velvet noise" background to a monochrome "beam" wallpaper there is "Crunchbang" too, which uses the Faenza icons (have to be installed though).

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