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#226 2018-03-29 07:08:58

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

johnraff wrote:

A simpler solution would be to remove the four launchers and put in a button that calls up the openbox menu instead? Those four apps are at the top.

^ I really like that idea, the launchers have never appealed to me because they look the same as the launched program icons and make the panel too busy (IMO).


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#227 2018-03-29 08:32:56

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

^Having a button to click on with a left click in order to open the openbox menu is a bit strange, if someone can get the same menu with a right click on anywhere (even if a window is maximized, anywhere on tint2). Not that I like those launchers, the opposite actually.

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#228 2018-03-29 13:30:04

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

johnraff wrote:

A simpler solution would be to remove the four launchers and put in a button that calls up the openbox menu instead? Those four apps are at the top.

Yeah, I use jgmenu for this. I’ve never been a huge fan of those icons to be honest. Clicking one of them doesn’t change the icon to look “active” when the program is launched; an additional program icon is added to tint2 instead, and it’s not even the same icon. Kinda sloppy IMO, I’d prefer our default desktop not have them.

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#229 2018-03-29 14:25:57

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

tried installing the alpha 6 on a lenovo x240 (had checked the iso integrity before creating a usb stick) had a filure during the "system install" step would go to 15%  then throw up an error. could not workaround this .. any suggestions?

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#230 2018-03-29 14:32:12

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

First question is always... did you use cp or dd to write the ISO to USB, or did you use uNetbootin? The latter won't work with Debian Live ISO images, such as ours.

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#231 2018-03-29 15:05:13

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

johnraff wrote:

1. Browser icon
OK changed in bunsen-configs - it will arrive with the next package version.

Cool, thanks!

johnraff wrote:

EDIT: hmm... actually, the edit has to be in the user configs, so it wouldn't be too easy. Debian-installer has already set up the user at the point the script is run.

I assume using /sys/class/power_supply is the more safe way to go with less work to do then?

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#232 2018-03-30 03:50:08

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

vinzv wrote:
johnraff wrote:

EDIT: hmm... actually, the edit has to be in the user configs, so it wouldn't be too easy. Debian-installer has already set up the user at the point the script is run.

I assume using /sys/class/power_supply is the more safe way to go with less work to do then?

It's not about how to determine if the machine is a laptop or not - in fact laptop-detect runs through a whole series of tests of that nature - but where to apply the change to xfpm's configuration.

Actually, on still further thought, although at the point where the d-i late_command script is run a user has been set up, it's still a basic user account without all the config files. They are imported from skel only when that user starts X for the first time, so at the debian-installer stage we could apply an edit to /usr/share/bunsen/skel/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml and it should work.

Meanwhile I took your second earlier suggested icon: gnome-power-manager-symbolic_var255b58356539c3d18.png
and reworked it a bit (it was a bit too tight to the edges I thought), made a set of different sized images and put them in bunsen-paper-icon-theme, so now the icon looks OK anyway. Thanks!


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#233 2018-03-30 07:46:48

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

DustyB wrote:

tried installing the alpha 6 on a lenovo x240 (had checked the iso integrity before creating a usb stick) had a filure during the "system install" step would go to 15%  then throw up an error. could not workaround this .. any suggestions?

I had the same thing. What worked for me was this: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 665#p69665

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#234 2018-03-30 17:03:19

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

hhh wrote:

First question is always... did you use cp or dd to write the ISO to USB, or did you use uNetbootin? The latter won't work with Debian Live ISO images, such as ours.

Hi hhh .. I used dd to write the image to the drive

This however has worked for me >> @Hyacinth >> I had the same thing. What worked for me was this: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 665#p69665

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#235 2018-03-30 19:00:04

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

DustyB wrote:

What worked for me was this: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 665#p69665

Great. I've never had any problems with the installer's partitioner, but we'll try to remember to post a warning in the Release Notes when we, er, release it. big_smile

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#236 2018-03-31 14:33:36

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

guys, what kind of problem is this with some linux iso's (sadly also Debian & BL) that they do not check partition to load itself during boot?
I'm in hospital and just making some tests for fun, I have Xubuntu, Tails and Helium on successive usb partitions. Sadly when trying to boot Helium (both live or to ram) it is starting and loading Tails unfortunately. I know my configuration & usage is seriously beyond average user anyway?

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#237 2018-03-31 19:15:55

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

dobl wrote:

what kind of problem is this with some linux iso's (sadly also Debian & BL) that they do not check partition to load itself during boot?

AFIUI, a boot flag is only needed for Windows, I don't have one on my drive but it still starts:

alpine:~$ sudo parted --list
Model: ATA KINGSTON SV300S3 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 120GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags: 

Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system     Flags
 1      1049kB  85.9GB  85.9GB  primary  sun-ufs
 2      85.9GB  118GB   32.2GB  primary  xfs
 3      118GB   120GB   1921MB  primary  linux-swap(v1)


alpine:~$

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#238 2018-03-31 19:25:23

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

AFIUI, a boot flag is only needed for Windows, I don't have one on my drive but it still starts:

Flag(s) has nothing to do with OS, more with UEFI if we forget finally legacy booting - of course for UEFI no any flags needed.

By partition check I mean kernel and initrams are loaded and then they start to load system from previous partition - not the partition they originate.

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#239 2018-03-31 19:31:10

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

dobl wrote:

Flag(s) has nothing to do with OS, more with UEFI if we forget finally legacy booting

Well, there's no such thing as a "flag" in a GPT/UEFI system, the partition code is used to identify the ESP.

What *exactly* are you trying to do? Multi-boot the ISO image?


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#240 2018-03-31 19:34:18

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Well, there's no such thing as a "flag" in a GPT/UEFI system, the partition code is used to identify the ESP.

No any partition code for ESP in UEFI, just fat32 and bootx64.efi (for x64) in proper dir with GPT part. table of course.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

What *exactly* are you trying to do? Multi-boot the ISO image?

; ) rather boot from multi-boot.
Will describe tomorrow.

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#241 2018-03-31 19:39:17

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

dobl wrote:

Will describe tomorrow.

OK, please open a new thread for your problem, thanks!


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#242 2018-04-01 00:43:36

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Sounds like a grub issue to me.

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#243 2018-04-06 06:33:19

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Beta isos now out!
Please continue here: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=4698


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