Devuan Jessie

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-06-21 18:15:24

Sector11 wrote:

prefer ceni or nothing

Devuan fully supports the Debian-style /etc/network/interfaces configuration file and the ifupdown commands so no third-party connection agent is needed at all.

bigbenaugust · 2017-06-21 20:25:53

Actually, after I installed bunsen-meta-all, it started both WICD and NM, so I disabled WICD and kept NM.
Devuan with LXDE does come with WICD by default.

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Sector11 · 2017-06-21 20:50:59

Nice to know, thanks gents.

BLizgreat! · 2017-06-22 11:04:03

+1 Sector, I like ceni too. Have done it by cli as Hoas mentioned and know its poss to scan for connections via cli but still think ceni is a great compromise between cli/gui (ncurses.)

bigbenaugust · 2017-06-22 13:43:10

Two things I noticed today:

The BL shutdown window doesn't work - that workaround has been mentioned elsewhere.
MS Teams for Linux (from github) won't install - broken dependency on a notification library that depends on dbus.
Everything else seems as expected.

Haven't had time for either as yet.

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damo · 2017-06-22 14:56:47

bigbenaugust wrote:

...
The BL shutdown window doesn't work - that workaround has been mentioned elsewhere.
...

Any useful output if you run bl-exit in a terminal?

bigbenaugust · 2017-06-22 17:52:58

damo wrote:

Any useful output if you run bl-exit in a terminal?

do_action: PowerOff
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/bl-exit", line 421, in shutdown_action
    self.do_action("PowerOff")
  File "/usr/bin/bl-exit", line 78, in do_action
    self.send_dbus(action)
  File "/usr/bin/bl-exit", line 83, in send_dbus
    self.setup_dbus_connection()
  File "/usr/bin/bl-exit", line 65, in setup_dbus_connection
    except bus.DBusException as e:
AttributeError: 'SystemBus' object has no attribute 'DBusException'

Definitely missing the dbus dependency.

DeepDayze · 2017-06-22 18:15:24

If you install dbus what does that pull in?

johnraff · 2017-06-23 01:33:36

bl-exit needs systemd, which provides logind.
It's possible to install systemd + systemd-shim and get logind while continuing to use sysvinit. See cpoakes' post in this same thread.

bigbenaugust · 2017-06-23 15:34:35

That is the workaround to which I was referring, but it's really a minor thing, I shut down from the terminal most of the time anyway.

I have to say though, the whole setup is pretty sprightly on this dual-core 1GHz machine.

bigbenaugust · 2017-07-03 03:12:12

In the end, I have reinstalled my netbook with Devuan Jessie with XFCE so I can do a clean dist-upgrade to the next release (ascii).

This should prove interesting.

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bigbenaugust · 2017-07-07 19:47:41

In the end, it worked until a udev issue prevented MTP devices from working.

So back to Devuan Jessie the machine went and there it will stay until after my oncall time is over next week.

bigbenaugust · 2017-07-16 01:40:26

I guess light-locker doesn't work as it makes a DBus call that goes nowhere.

No worries, installed xscreensaver and bound Windows+L to xscreensaver-command --lock.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-07-16 10:19:30

bigbenaugust wrote:

installed xscreensaver

We already have the rather beautiful slock included in the base system (thanks to the suckless-tools package), why not try that instead?

I don't think jwz wants you to use his outdated package anyway... 8o

bigbenaugust · 2017-07-17 19:30:32

I will try tonight when I have the Devuan box in front of me.

Bearded_Blunder · 2017-10-06 16:17:50

bigbenaugust wrote:

I like NM because I can manage VPN for work with it also, which I believe wicd isn't able to do. Or at least it wasn't the last time I looked into it. Please educate me if it can handle openconnect stuff, I'd love to try it.

Have a look at cmst that can do VPN, uses connman for underpinnings.

Bearded_Blunder · 2017-10-15 01:49:46

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

bigbenaugust wrote:
installed xscreensaver
We already have the rather beautiful slock included in the base system (thanks to the suckless-tools package), why not try that instead?
I don't think jwz wants you to use his outdated package anyway... 8o

Afraid I couldn't resist winding jwz up, ok bitching about stable but when I report a bug to Debian rather than HIM and against the ver in Buster/Sid, which is also present in a rolling distro like Gentoo... well the guy is just too up-tight (not mentioning #878373 for my LXQt (Buster) install. ). The guy needs to lighten up or he'll have a stroke.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-10-15 18:37:37

Bearded_Blunder wrote:

#878373

You do realise that jwz was just trolling the list, right?

Anyway Jamie has earned the right to be as grumpy as he wants, his contributions to the open source community are the stuff of legend, we would do well to remember that.

Bearded_Blunder · 2017-10-16 21:00:12

Sometimes I rise to stuff like that. I guess I could refrain from being grumpy back, but it's less fun. I'd have taken his response quietly if I'd made a bugreport upstream to him and got grumped at for picking Debian, since any fix won't ever make it into Stretch where most people are, the issue not being security related.. at least I can't think of a way to exploit it.

In his place I too would get grumpy at a distro which by policy won't update a package which has lost some functionality due to outside influences, namely changes in the results, and thus how they have to be parsed.

Anyhow, the fix is to update, but how will Debian know what they're shipping is broken (or at least functionally impaired) and needs updating unless it's reported to Debian?

thierrybo · 2017-11-12 12:30:54

bigbenaugust wrote:

Seems functional so far. What I have done:
Installed Devuan 1.0.0 to a VM with encrypted partitions (habit), selected LXDE as desktop
Added BL repos as on: https://www.bunsenlabs.org/repositories.html (and the key)
Installed bunsen-meta-all
Restarted
Looks like there is a wicd/NetworkManager conflict to resolve, but that should be a matter of messing with the autostart file. Not rocket science.

Hi,

do you had any problem running bl-welcome? :

enable "contrib" and "non-free"? [Y/n] Y

Editing sources list failed. This script will exit.
Please open /etc/
 .....

What is the best way? Edit usr/lib/bunsen/welcome/check-repos and add-debian-backports
to change debian in devuan?

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