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#26 2017-05-31 18:15:42

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Re: Devuan Jessie

bigbenaugust wrote:

My first Devuan install seems to have choked somewhere between the boot loader install and the disk encryption.

That installer is... a little rough for someone used to the Debian Installer.

... because I downloaded a desktop live ISO when I should have used a regular one.  roll


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#27 2017-06-01 15:34:20

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Re: Devuan Jessie

I now have two VMs going, one with vanilla Devuan/LXDE and one with STAR (https://sourceforge.net/projects/linnix/), which is sort of a #!/BL sort of a setup atop Devuan.

I am going to try the BL repos on Devuan just to see what I get. smile


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#28 2017-06-01 16:41:25

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Re: Devuan Jessie

bigbenaugust wrote:

I am going to try the BL repos on Devuan just to see what I get. smile

i have vuudu and good life(on ascii) and am very curious to see what you end up with
been wanting to try with mini.iso, but i'll let you be guinea pig

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#29 2017-06-02 15:20:40

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Re: Devuan Jessie

Seems functional so far. What I have done:

  1. Installed Devuan 1.0.0 to a VM with encrypted partitions (habit), selected LXDE as desktop

  2. Added BL repos as on: https://www.bunsenlabs.org/repositories.html (and the key)

  3. Installed bunsen-meta-all

  4. Restarted

Looks like there is a wicd/NetworkManager conflict to resolve, but that should be a matter of messing with the autostart file. Not rocket science.


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#30 2017-06-02 15:34:10

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Re: Devuan Jessie

^ Drop NM keep WICD - OK, that's an Opinion.  big_smile


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#31 2017-06-02 16:36:37

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Re: Devuan Jessie

I like NM because I can manage VPN for work with it also, which I believe wicd isn't able to do. Or at least it wasn't the last time I looked into it. Please educate me if it can handle openconnect stuff, I'd love to try it.


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#32 2017-06-02 17:13:04

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Re: Devuan Jessie

I don't use VPN but there is this:

[Solved] Re: Using OpenVPN client with wicd

I went from: NM to WICD to Ceni to nothing.  but I'm on a wired connection.


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#33 2017-06-02 19:41:50

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Re: Devuan Jessie

All of my machines at home are laptops and so have multiple network interfaces, and then you drag VPN management into it, NM works pretty well.

If I had only one wired connection, I'd go back to straight-up putting it in /etc/network/interfaces like old times.

Back to the Devuan/BL setup, I might try this in actual hardware on my netbook after I get back from vacation.


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#34 2017-06-02 20:33:07

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@ bigbenaugust

^ well not knowing the lay of the lan(d) {pun intended}, vpan or pancakes, how was I to know. lol lol

But that's me - your paragraph 2 up there.  Love it.


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#35 2017-06-02 23:57:56

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Re: Devuan Jessie

In other (Devuan) related news, they finally have a Jessie release out version 1.0 and Debian is about to move on to Stretch. Try as I might I simply can't and won't take Devuan seriously. smile

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#36 2017-06-03 03:28:12

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Re: Devuan Jessie

BLizgreat! wrote:

In other (Devuan) related news, they finally have a Jessie release out version 1.0 and Debian is about to move on to Stretch. Try as I might I simply can't and won't take Devuan seriously. smile

I suspect they'll catch up soon enough.


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#37 2017-06-03 22:52:58

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Re: Devuan Jessie

BLizgreat! wrote:

Try as I might I simply can't and won't take Devuan seriously

That's OK BLizzle, I'm sure they don't take you seriously either tongue

For the record, I am deeply impressed by the achievements of the Devuan team and I wish them every luck in their future endeavors.

@bigbenaugust: thanks for the feedback, I may try that myself at some point smile


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#38 2017-06-04 00:51:51

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Re: Devuan Jessie

I want to try it in real hardware so I can try things like wifi and USB automounts and gvfs and all before I make a final assessment. But alas, I am at the beach next week.  cool 

But from the "trying stuff in the VM" perspective, slapping BL on Devuan seems to just work.


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#39 2017-06-04 02:48:43

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#40 2017-06-21 17:44:10

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Re: Devuan Jessie

I am currently doing the thing to my Acer Aspire One. Devuan Jessie (encrypted disk, LXDE) has been installed, BL repos added, and bunsen-meta-all is installing right now.

wicd did just fine, I might just keep it and run openconnect from the command line for VPN. smile


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#41 2017-06-21 18:07:23

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Re: Devuan Jessie

Devuan - Interesting, I have a Devuan DVD here, have not installed it, does it come with WICD I like wicd but prefer ceni or nothing as I am hardwired to the net (Cablemodem so DHCP is just fine).


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#42 2017-06-21 18:15:24

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Re: Devuan Jessie

Sector11 wrote:

prefer ceni or nothing

Devuan fully supports the Debian-style /etc/network/interfaces configuration file and the ifupdown commands so no third-party connection agent is needed at all.


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#43 2017-06-21 20:25:53

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Re: Devuan Jessie

Actually, after I installed bunsen-meta-all, it started both WICD and NM, so I disabled WICD and kept NM.
Devuan with LXDE does come with WICD by default.

Last edited by bigbenaugust (2017-06-21 20:26:24)


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#44 2017-06-21 20:50:59

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Nice to know, thanks gents.


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#45 2017-06-22 11:04:03

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Re: Devuan Jessie

+1 Sector, I like ceni too. Have done it by cli as Hoas mentioned and know its poss to scan for connections via cli but still think ceni is a great compromise between cli/gui (ncurses.)

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#46 2017-06-22 13:43:10

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Re: Devuan Jessie

Two things I noticed today:

  • The BL shutdown window doesn't work - that workaround has been mentioned elsewhere.

  • MS Teams for Linux (from github) won't install - broken dependency on a notification library that depends on dbus.

  • Everything else seems as expected.

Haven't had time for either as yet.

Last edited by bigbenaugust (2017-06-22 13:43:53)


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#47 2017-06-22 14:56:47

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Re: Devuan Jessie

bigbenaugust wrote:

...

  • The BL shutdown window doesn't work - that workaround has been mentioned elsewhere.
    ...

Any useful output if you run bl-exit in a terminal?


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#48 2017-06-22 17:52:58

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Re: Devuan Jessie

damo wrote:

Any useful output if you run bl-exit in a terminal?

do_action: PowerOff
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/bl-exit", line 421, in shutdown_action
    self.do_action("PowerOff")
  File "/usr/bin/bl-exit", line 78, in do_action
    self.send_dbus(action)
  File "/usr/bin/bl-exit", line 83, in send_dbus
    self.setup_dbus_connection()
  File "/usr/bin/bl-exit", line 65, in setup_dbus_connection
    except bus.DBusException as e:
AttributeError: 'SystemBus' object has no attribute 'DBusException'

Definitely missing the dbus dependency.


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#49 2017-06-22 18:15:24

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Re: Devuan Jessie

If you install dbus what does that pull in?


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#50 2017-06-23 01:33:36

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Re: Devuan Jessie

bl-exit needs systemd, which provides logind.
It's possible to install systemd + systemd-shim and get logind while continuing to use sysvinit. See cpoakes' post in this same thread.


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