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#21 2017-05-06 09:35:59

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Re: Devuan Jessie

And thanks Hoas, will eventually get around to dorking with runit, though when who knows.

Until then I can count on you to boldly go where many other techies won't and live precariously through your gnu/nix adventures. smile


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#22 2017-05-29 15:03:54

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Re: Devuan Jessie

So how does it end up working when one installs Devuan on a machine and adds the BL repos? Is it just a matter of "Don't use the exit button and everything will be fine"? That is the impression I got from the above.

Now that Devuan has gone 1.0, I am thinking about slapping it on a machine and I can't think of a better minimalist desktop than the BL Openbox setup with a bunch of stuff disabled. smile


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#23 2017-05-29 15:24:37

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Re: Devuan Jessie

bigbenaugust wrote:

So how does it end up working when one installs Devuan on a machine and adds the BL repos?

I seem to remember that dependency problems stopped any installation from our repositories, I think udev was the major sticking point but it was a while ago and with one of the RC editions rather than the recent release.

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#24 2017-05-30 13:38:39

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Re: Devuan Jessie

My first Devuan install seems to have choked somewhere between the boot loader install and the disk encryption.

That installer is... a little rough for someone used to the Debian Installer.


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#25 2017-05-31 18:15:42

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Re: Devuan Jessie

bigbenaugust wrote:

My first Devuan install seems to have choked somewhere between the boot loader install and the disk encryption.

That installer is... a little rough for someone used to the Debian Installer.

... because I downloaded a desktop live ISO when I should have used a regular one.  roll


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#26 2017-06-01 15:34:20

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Re: Devuan Jessie

I now have two VMs going, one with vanilla Devuan/LXDE and one with STAR (https://sourceforge.net/projects/linnix/), which is sort of a #!/BL sort of a setup atop Devuan.

I am going to try the BL repos on Devuan just to see what I get. smile


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#27 2017-06-01 16:41:25

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Re: Devuan Jessie

bigbenaugust wrote:

I am going to try the BL repos on Devuan just to see what I get. smile

i have vuudu and good life(on ascii) and am very curious to see what you end up with
been wanting to try with mini.iso, but i'll let you be guinea pig

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#28 2017-06-02 15:20:40

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Re: Devuan Jessie

Seems functional so far. What I have done:

  1. Installed Devuan 1.0.0 to a VM with encrypted partitions (habit), selected LXDE as desktop

  2. Added BL repos as on: https://www.bunsenlabs.org/repositories.html (and the key)

  3. Installed bunsen-meta-all

  4. Restarted

Looks like there is a wicd/NetworkManager conflict to resolve, but that should be a matter of messing with the autostart file. Not rocket science.


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#29 2017-06-02 15:34:10

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Re: Devuan Jessie

^ Drop NM keep WICD - OK, that's an Opinion.  big_smile


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#30 2017-06-02 16:36:37

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I like NM because I can manage VPN for work with it also, which I believe wicd isn't able to do. Or at least it wasn't the last time I looked into it. Please educate me if it can handle openconnect stuff, I'd love to try it.


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#31 2017-06-02 17:13:04

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Re: Devuan Jessie

I don't use VPN but there is this:

[Solved] Re: Using OpenVPN client with wicd

I went from: NM to WICD to Ceni to nothing.  but I'm on a wired connection.


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#32 2017-06-02 19:41:50

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All of my machines at home are laptops and so have multiple network interfaces, and then you drag VPN management into it, NM works pretty well.

If I had only one wired connection, I'd go back to straight-up putting it in /etc/network/interfaces like old times.

Back to the Devuan/BL setup, I might try this in actual hardware on my netbook after I get back from vacation.


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#33 2017-06-02 20:33:07

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@ bigbenaugust

^ well not knowing the lay of the lan(d) {pun intended}, vpan or pancakes, how was I to know. lol lol

But that's me - your paragraph 2 up there.  Love it.


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#34 2017-06-02 23:57:56

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Re: Devuan Jessie

In other (Devuan) related news, they finally have a Jessie release out version 1.0 and Debian is about to move on to Stretch. Try as I might I simply can't and won't take Devuan seriously. smile

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#35 2017-06-03 03:28:12

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BLizgreat! wrote:

In other (Devuan) related news, they finally have a Jessie release out version 1.0 and Debian is about to move on to Stretch. Try as I might I simply can't and won't take Devuan seriously. smile

I suspect they'll catch up soon enough.


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#36 2017-06-03 22:52:58

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Re: Devuan Jessie

BLizgreat! wrote:

Try as I might I simply can't and won't take Devuan seriously

That's OK BLizzle, I'm sure they don't take you seriously either tongue

For the record, I am deeply impressed by the achievements of the Devuan team and I wish them every luck in their future endeavors.

@bigbenaugust: thanks for the feedback, I may try that myself at some point smile

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#37 2017-06-04 00:51:51

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I want to try it in real hardware so I can try things like wifi and USB automounts and gvfs and all before I make a final assessment. But alas, I am at the beach next week.  cool 

But from the "trying stuff in the VM" perspective, slapping BL on Devuan seems to just work.


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#38 2017-06-04 02:48:43

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#39 2017-06-21 17:44:10

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Re: Devuan Jessie

I am currently doing the thing to my Acer Aspire One. Devuan Jessie (encrypted disk, LXDE) has been installed, BL repos added, and bunsen-meta-all is installing right now.

wicd did just fine, I might just keep it and run openconnect from the command line for VPN. smile


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#40 2017-06-21 18:07:23

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Re: Devuan Jessie

Devuan - Interesting, I have a Devuan DVD here, have not installed it, does it come with WICD I like wicd but prefer ceni or nothing as I am hardwired to the net (Cablemodem so DHCP is just fine).


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