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#21 2016-10-22 01:08:13

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Re: RFT The "devel" section in the current bl-welcome

Horizon_Brave wrote:

When was this updated?

Nothing's been updated. Some changes have been pushed to the "deuterium" branch (and more are coming) but they won't hit anyone's system till deuterium is merged into "master", and the new packages built and uploaded, maybe a month from now.

The same applies to many of the other BL packages. Deuterium should bring some improvements but many people won't notice such big changes.

(Meanwhile bugfixes - as opposed to improvements - are still being pushed to "master" and packages upgraded fairly quickly.)

This thread is about the devel section of bl-welcome - whether it's working OK or not for most people, and whether some dead wood needs to be pruned out of it. Any changes agreed here might make it into deuterium, or might arrive later.

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#22 2016-10-22 19:10:04

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Re: RFT The "devel" section in the current bl-welcome

damo wrote:
Bunsenlabs Repository Index wrote:

bunsen-welcome

    Version: 8.11-1 (01/10/2016)

https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/repoidx.html … en-welcome

Thanks Damo forget that this page exists. I was looking more at the github page, which I wasn't sure was 100% update to date.


johnraff wrote:

Nothing's been updated. Some changes have been pushed to the "deuterium" branch (and more are coming) but they won't hit anyone's system till deuterium is merged into "master", and the new packages built and uploaded, maybe a month from now.

The same applies to many of the other BL packages. Deuterium should bring some improvements but many people won't notice such big changes.

(Meanwhile bugfixes - as opposed to improvements - are still being pushed to "master" and packages upgraded fairly quickly.)

This thread is about the devel section of bl-welcome - whether it's working OK or not for most people, and whether some dead wood needs to be pruned out of it. Any changes agreed here might make it into deuterium, or might arrive later.

Yep, that I understand. And I'm assuming Deuterium will launch to just about coincide with the early freeze of Stretch.

Anywho if you want my two cents on the dev options in bl-welcome, it does seem a bit hefty... But when an average user clicks that option to install the dev options, a list is indeed provided of what's to come.  It seems like a user who wishes to setup a fully functioning LAMP stack, will know what he/she needs at that point.  Dropping the VCS would be my suggestion with a caveat...Just create a screen or block of text pointing them to the VCS package.  That's a nice, friendly handoff to tell the dev that "We can only show you the door, you must walk through it..." (to quote the Matrix)  And isn't that the philosophy of BunsenLabs in general?
To get the user set up with a foundation and let them run with it? So we set up the basic dev tools, and the bigger heavier chunks, give them a point in the right direction, and let them go for it.


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#23 2016-10-22 21:18:47

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Re: RFT The "devel" section in the current bl-welcome

@H_B

The github pages are absolutely up-to-date - the last commits are plainly time-stamped. However, the packages produced from the github repos would generally follow some time later.


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#24 2016-11-11 04:43:24

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Re: RFT The "devel" section in the current bl-welcome

For now, I've just disabled the "Create pbuilder environment now?" prompt in the packaging-tools page. It's just a single command that people can easily run later, after they've thought about the exact options and configuration they want.


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