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#41 2016-08-30 17:51:34

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

Oh this isn't hurting our 'marrage' in anyway at all.  People have a right to do on the net what they want (omitting illegal activities).  If putting up with a few flash cookies to keep her happy playing games so be it.

I've even been looking at 'firejail' (sandbox) but I can't get the cookies in there permanently.

RE your ot: - I hear you loud and clear!  Sounds like she was one of the types that was confused as hell about the "any" key - where is it.  Oh well, we each have our own levels.


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#42 2016-08-30 17:51:34

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

What flash version is showing here? Mine says 22.something and I have been smooth browsing.

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#43 2016-08-30 17:57:15

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

You have version 22,0,0,192 installed

Interesting ... I thought I was using pepperflash ...

30 Aug 16 @ 14:55:45 ~

 30 Aug 16 @ 14:55:45 ~
  $ list browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
Alias for: apt list -a filename
Listing... Done
browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash/jessie-backports,now 0.3.5-1~bpo8+1 amd64 [installed]
 
 30 Aug 16 @ 14:56:12 ~
  $ list pepperflashplugin-nonfree
Alias for: apt list -a filename
Listing... Done
pepperflashplugin-nonfree/stable,now 1.8.1+deb8u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]

Oh well back to the drawing board ...


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#44 2016-08-31 07:40:40

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

Fascinating post from one of the Debian forums experts here:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? … 31#p623531

I've recently discovered that Firefox ESR v45 (wheezy), which was adopted by Debian is simply a spyware - not much different from Chrome.
Geo-location works even if You will disable it.
Lots of hidden services, which are causing relatively high CPU usage and memory consumption.

Possible solution (other than just removing the Firefox package):

1. Enter the about:config
2. search for "https"
3. replace all the links with spaces (You can exclude some addresses related to health reporting, updates, phishing addresses reporting, etc)

Worth a try, eh?

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Mod edit:  see my post here added the bold italics

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#45 2016-08-31 13:23:06

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

HoaS - you're AWESOME!

That did it or at least for the few tests I have done ... a lot were syncing with mozilla ... for other services.

THANK YOU!!

EDIT:  I also found and killed this one:

https://www.googleapis.com/geolocation/ … E_API_KEY%

Last edited by Sector11 (2016-08-31 13:24:19)


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#46 2016-08-31 18:25:36

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

Sector11 wrote:

HoaS - you're AWESOME!

You are too kind -- the post was made by @tomazzi over at forums.debian.net and the credit goes to that member smile

I am very glad that's worked for you.

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#47 2016-08-31 18:52:25

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

big_smile  big_smile  big_smile   

Gives me hope!  Sector11 You're probably seemed a bit more advanced than mine, just running purely hot and burning up cpu, but I"m going to give HoaS's method a try on my netbook and see what becomes. You're getting my hopes up!


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#48 2016-08-31 20:39:20

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

@HoaS - Of course the post was by someone else ... but you saw it and thought to bring it here, along with helping hundreds of millions of other LabRats (OK, a 'slight' numerical exaggeration) with 267,405 different problems you are the go to guy!  Therefore; you are Awesome!  Nuff said!

@H_B  I actually did burn up a chip here a few years back:  An old single core AMD 64 chip.  Volcanic ash from a near by (Chile) volcano and I didn't bother to check 'between' regular cleaning intervals.  The fins on the CPU heat sync got clogged up and the temp rose to 120°C (248°F) before I noticed ... at which time it was too late.  A taxi the day after the blow:
Volcanic_ash.jpg
Still have the chip with a little 'Darth Vader' (keychain dongle) glued to it as a reminder: Clean the Computer.


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#49 2016-08-31 21:03:06

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

^ A new quote to go with "SLIM ate my music"...

A volcano fried my CPU

big_smile


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#50 2016-08-31 21:58:37

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

Ahhhhhhhhhh but I didn't actually say that so you can't quote me.

It does make a nice base for DarthVader though.


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#51 2016-09-01 06:05:39

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Fascinating post from one of the Debian forums experts here:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? … 31#p623531

I've recently discovered that Firefox ESR v45 (wheezy), which was adopted by Debian is simply a spyware - not much different from Chrome.
Geo-location works even if You will disable it.
Lots of hidden services, which are causing relatively high CPU usage and memory consumption.

Possible solution (other than just removing the Firefox package):

1. Enter the about:config
2. search for "https"
3. replace all the links with spaces (You can exclude some addresses related to health reporting, updates, phishing addresses reporting, etc)

Worth a try, eh?

tried yesterday, and so far everything is still working!
i am sure some of these links can be disabled through preferences, and i'm not 100% sure it helps, but at least it doesn't seem to hurt.
thumbs up.

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#52 2016-09-01 07:18:41

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

a. Could this be kernel related? (ff runs like butter here with backported kernel >  4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit))
b. How about a simple : nice -19 firefox

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#53 2016-09-01 18:49:42

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

Well I tried this on my netbook and unfortunately to no great success. Even after going in and wiping out scores of https links, once I launch a window that requires some flash, or even html5 video, the cpu is still swamped.  Oh well, again, I'm going to just chalk it up to old hardware trying to run resource intensive processes. 
cputime.png

On a separate note, while clearing out the https lines...is this safe advice to give? I noticed that some of the https lines were links to pages that I frequent.  Before handing this out as a solution, we maybe should take a look to see what some of the https links are actually going to first before erasing. The telemetry ones obviously can be wiped, but anything in regards to sites you actively visit, I'm not certain we should erase them?  If anyone knows the consequence of this, feel free to chime in...I just don't want to have users going in wiping ff values all willy nilly without know what these are primarily used for:


Mozilla_phone_home.png


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#54 2016-09-01 20:01:47

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

^ Regarding the https lines:

My Palemoon has 24 links - mostly addon and palemoon links;

My FF has pages and pages of them hmm


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#55 2016-09-01 20:21:00

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

damo wrote:

^ Regarding the https lines:

My Palemoon has 24 links - mostly addon and palemoon links;

My FF has pages and pages of them hmm

Ugh, I really do need to jump on the palemoon bandwagon one of these days. How's the addon support?  Things like Lastpass, noScript, and Textarea  exist for it?


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#56 2016-09-01 20:47:18

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

^ Those three should work OK from the mozilla addons repo - they seem to be compatible.

Palemoon is in the jessie repos, or you can run it as a standalone if you don't want to install it. v26.3.0.1 just released has fixed the gstreamer crashing with some html5 video.


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#57 2016-09-01 20:57:37

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

Going back to HoaS's post and adding bold italics to the quote he used:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Fascinating post from one of the Debian forums experts here:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? … 31#p623531

I've recently discovered that Firefox ESR v45 (wheezy), which was adopted by Debian is simply a spyware - not much different from Chrome.
Geo-location works even if You will disable it.
Lots of hidden services, which are causing relatively high CPU usage and memory consumption.

Possible solution (other than just removing the Firefox package):

1. Enter the about:config
2. search for "https"
3. replace all the links with spaces (You can exclude some addresses related to health reporting, updates, phishing addresses reporting, etc)

Worth a try, eh?

Which means it's not a "blanket delete them all" thing.  Use caution.


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#58 2016-09-02 05:50:33

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

Horizon_Brave wrote:

On a separate note, while clearing out the https lines...is this safe advice to give?

yeah, S11 said it.
it's not supposed to be "blind" advice.

btw, i deleted those links yesterday, and guess what, they're all back now! (FF 48)
maybe one would have to put in actual gibberish that looks like a legit site.
but that would most certainly result in a failed lookup, so performance-wise probably not so useful.

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#59 2016-09-02 11:14:08

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Re: How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

^  OH!  Must check that.


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