How does one stop FF from maxing out CPU usage

Sector11 · 2016-07-15 18:33:29

^ Well, running a video isn't a problem for me - just starting and stopping FF.

Adding to that I have 5 tabs open now - youtube video running and one of my wifes games running ... CPU Average sitting at 58% - closed out everything except this tab and my wife's game and played a few steps ... usage: 42%.

Cookie Controler? Is that like the lock my wife put on the cookie jar? OK, seriously, will look at it, but I think "Self Destructing Cookies" should be enough.

Horizon_Brave · 2016-07-15 19:03:14

Sector11 wrote:

^ Well, running a video isn't a problem for me - just starting and stopping FF.
http://s20.postimg.org/mrejs4f61/2016_07_15_15_24_02_Scrot11.jpg
Adding to that I have 5 tabs open now - youtube video running and one of my wifes games running ... CPU Average sitting at 58% - closed out everything except this tab and my wife's game and played a few steps ... usage: 42%.
Cookie Controler? Is that like the lock my wife put on the cookie jar? OK, seriously, will look at it, but I think "Self Destructing Cookies" should be enough.

Hey, think belt and suspenders !

DrTronic · 2016-07-29 21:34:57

It's Flash that's doing it pure and simple.

IME Flash/Firefox will happily leave processes unnecessarily hanging and gladly munch even powerful processors..
It is unrealistic to leave those games just sitting there. Has your wife seen this thread? She's gonna have to face facts

Sector11 · 2016-07-29 22:01:10

No she hasn't read this and she knows what I think of 'flash games' but it's her only vice - what can I say.

Horizon_Brave · 2016-07-29 22:08:41

Sector11 wrote:

No she hasn't read this and she knows what I think of 'flash games' but it's her only vice - what can I say.

That...and you know not to rock the boat when it comes to the 'the boss'

Also, I get that flash/FF are a heavy heavy combination, but even with pepperflash/FF-esr and even the browser palemoon, just sucked down cpu cycles like beer at a football game.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-07-29 22:08:41

@S11: have you considered dual-booting and keeping your system FlashFree?

Me and my partner have had separate beds systems for two years now and it works very well o:)

EDIT: Of course, the real reason is that the interweb itself sucks:

http://suckless.org/sucks/web

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2016-07-29 22:09:55)

mi · 2016-08-17 05:02:20

I have the same problem with firefox as s11 but much slower for starting it up. It can take up to half-a-minute to start. One of my CPU cores also speeds up to 100%. After firefox is already running it works quite fast. Closing it is not really a problem.. --safe-mode doesn't seem to make any difference...
I barely use firefox and when I do it, it's mostly in private-mode. This behavior started after the update from iceweasel to firefox.
I'm commenting on the subject to point out that s11's issue is not so isolated as it seems.
I've uninstalled firefox and iceweasel. I've tried the "refresh" (which resets addons and settings - I actually didn't have anything there). The only plugins I have are flash and java.

--

Interesting...
Firefox takes long to start when I'm logged in openbox or i3, but not on e17!
Could this be some x11 or gtk issue with firefox? (noobie question/comment)
I don't really find anything like that on the web.

I tried this. Didn't work. Neither disabling ufw..

Last edited by mi (2016-08-17 05:14:18)

mi · 2016-08-17 22:24:44

in my old machine running BL 32-bit with i3wm FF starts normal

Horizon_Brave · 2016-08-18 03:44:40

Hey mi, Just out of curiosity, what if any, add ons and or Extensions do you have for F.F?

mi · 2016-08-18 15:18:06

Plugins and extensions..

I must also mention that I've tried --safe-mode and it didn't make any difference.

Temetka · 2016-08-28 23:22:31

I hear ya on the flash games S11. My wife plays those all the time. I do from time to time, but not so much. Sadly her system is dying and I must allocate one of my spare laptops to her and reload Win7, Outlook, etc. Ugh.

WRT to slow firefox and high CPU, I would recommend a few more addons:

NoScript
Flashblock

You can stop scripts from running and flash elements from loading. You can also whitelist sites that rely on that crap life facebook, etc. I'd also highly recommend adbLock Plus, Ghostery, Privacy Badger and Ublock Origin. Take control of your browser and privacy back. Also did I mention how much ad's and scripts can chew up CPU cycles? Are you using a costum /etc/hosts file to handle blocking?

Try these. My system right now with a C2D dual CPU is sitting at 10% CPU with VLC playing a .FLV music file and a few tabs open in FF. This is on a fresh install of whatever the latest version of BL is right now.

Sector11 · 2016-08-29 12:43:57

Temetka wrote:

I hear ya on the flash games S11. My wife plays those all the time. I do from time to time, but not so much. Sadly her system is dying and I must allocate one of my spare laptops to her and reload Win7, Outlook, etc. Ugh.
WRT to slow firefox and high CPU, I would recommend a few more addons:
NoScript
Flashblock
You can stop scripts from running and flash elements from loading. You can also whitelist sites that rely on that crap life facebook, etc. I'd also highly recommend adbLock Plus, Ghostery, Privacy Badger and Ublock Origin. Take control of your browser and privacy back. Also did I mention how much ad's and scripts can chew up CPU cycles? Are you using a costum /etc/hosts file to handle blocking?
Try these. My system right now with a C2D dual CPU is sitting at 10% CPU with VLC playing a .FLV music file and a few tabs open in FF. This is on a fresh install of whatever the latest version of BL is right now.

We only have this one machine. So I have to make due.

How could she play her games with Flashblock installed? NoScript is here but disabled, it kills the online newspaper sights she reads.. I have an addon - Self-Destructing Cookies that takes care of all thrid party cookies etc and here game sites have to 'manually' be selected to acept cookies from those sites.

Recently I installed sqlitebrowser from the repos.

sqlitebrowser ~/.mozilla/firefox/<coded_stuff>.default/cookies.sqlite

Nice little app, now I can at least delete individual unwanted cookies that sneak in and I've found the "flash game" cookies here:

~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/<coded_stuff>/

with subdirectories of her game sites... and others like:
~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/<coded_stuff>/www.cbsnews.com/
it's the .sol files in there that are the bother.

However, the maxing out of the CPU comes mostly at starting and stopping FF. That part I can't figure out.
This is what I am running (including 14 conkys) -->
So it's not like under normal use there is a problem. NOTE the CPU usage.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-08-29 12:57:42

Sector11 wrote:

safe mode fires up faster

This would strongly suggest that the problem lies in your extensions.

I try to use as few as possible: just uBlock-origin would probably be fine and set cookies to be deleted when FF closes rather than relying on bloated, opaque addons.

Sector11 · 2016-08-29 14:58:05

Yea, that's been mentioned before, this is what I have:

No Google Analytics
Self-Destructing Cookies
Speed Tweaks (FF)
Status-4-Evar
Textarea Cache
uBlock Origin

... and these are disabled:

Remove Cookies for Site
NoScript
Personas Plus
RightToClick

If I deleted "all" cookies when I shut down I would loose some we really need AND there would be WW III as she has 'hours' invested in some of her games building up to various stages.

Besiders, like I said in the OP: this is when starting / stopping FF.

unklar · 2016-08-29 20:55:16

Sector11 wrote:

How could she play her games with Flashblock installed? NoScript is here but disabled, it kills the online newspaper sights she reads.. I have an addon - Self-Destructing Cookies that takes care of all thrid party cookies etc and here game sites have to 'manually' be selected to acept cookies from those sites.
Recently I installed sqlitebrowser from the repos.
sqlitebrowser ~/.mozilla/firefox/<coded_stuff>.default/cookies.sqlite
Nice little app, now I can at least delete individual unwanted cookies that sneak in and I've found the "flash game" cookies here:
~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/<coded_stuff>/
with subdirectories of her game sites... and others like:
~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/<coded_stuff>/www.cbsnews.com/
it's the .sol files in there that are the bother.

I once in debian forum the solution for this type
cookies found.
In order for these sites work, you granted them first. After e.g. 15 minutes
be it through this in the /etc/crontap

...
# Flash-Cookies aller 15 Minuten per cron-Job entfernen
*/15 * * * * unklar rm -rf /home/unklar/.macromedia/Flash_Player
*/15 * * * * unklar rm -rf /home/unklar/.adobe/Flash_Player
#

regularly deleted.
Otherwise, I recommend the recently rapid qupzilla browser. But it is useful only as of version 1.8.9. Unfortunately in Bunsen labs only in version 1.6

apt-cache policy qupzilla
qupzilla:
  Installiert:           (keine)
  Installationskandidat: 1.8.9~dfsg1-3
  Versionstabelle:
     1.8.9~dfsg1-3 0
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
        
-----------------------------------------------------
KaoS am 12.07.2016

QupZilla-Version: 2.0.99
QtWebEngine-Version 5.7.0
------------------------------------------------------
Mageia 6

QupZilla-Version: 2.0.1
QtWebEngine-Version 5.6.0
-----------------------------------------------------
siduction

QupZilla-Version: 1.8.9
WebKit-Version: 538.1

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Temetka · 2016-08-30 12:44:54

Stupid question:

You and your wife have separate user accounts, right?

If so, jsut set her up and let her go. If not, well I know firefox supports profiles. Maybe you could make a "wifey mode" profile for her to use. Other than that, I could mail you a laptop. I don't know. We have like 10 computers in this house. Wife, 2 kids, and me with a bunch of laptops, a server, a NAS, a SonicWall firewall (IT Guy - I have to have a pile of gear).

Other than, I'm out of idea's. You could manually go through each site she uses and enable various flash elements and scripts to get the functionality while limiting that which does not impact the task at hand. But that's a lot of work and impractical to put into practice. I wish you luck in this. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see what develops.

ohnonot · 2016-08-30 16:06:17

this thread is entering a phase where we would need to know more about your marriage!
8o

Sector11 · 2016-08-30 16:21:56

Temetka wrote:

Stupid question:
You and your wife have separate user accounts, right?

Not a stupid question because the answer is: NO! We share the same account. When we 'got together' I had my computer with W2K, I immediatelt setup an email account for her. We switched to Linux in 2007 and have been sharing the same account on a single computer ever since.

Temetka wrote:

If so, just set her up and let her go. If not, well I know firefox supports profiles. Maybe you could make a "wifey mode" profile for her to use.

But it might be an option, 'logout' isn't as hard on the HDD as 'reboot' - or even better a FF Profile' for her since we have two mail accounts here Icedove for her's and Claws-mail for mine.

Time to search for info on how to do these things as it's beyond the scope of this thread since it would involve 'transfering' mails, settings etc.

Temetka wrote:

Other than that, I could mail you a laptop. I don't know. We have like 10 computers in this house. Wife, 2 kids, and me with a bunch of laptops, a server, a NAS, a SonicWall firewall (IT Guy - I have to have a pile of gear).

Very kind of you and I appreciate the thought more than I can express but 'used' goods, especially a laptop, would ever make it past Argentinian customs. PLUS the shipping fees, import tax and other fees would be horrendous - equal to buying something new which is just not in our budget. And of course computers here are probably double the price of things in the US.

Temetka wrote:

Other than, I'm out of idea's. You could manually go through each site she uses and enable various flash elements and scripts to get the functionality while limiting that which does not impact the task at hand. But that's a lot of work and impractical to put into practice. I wish you luck in this. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see what develops.

Thanks for the tips.

Sector11 · 2016-08-30 16:48:32

ohnonot wrote:

this thread is entering a phase where we would need to know more about your marriage!
8o

Well, there is some info in my last post. I started sharing "my computer" with her as soon as we became a couple, and it continued after we got married. It's now "our computer", but I'm the "Tech Support Guy"

- is that HoaS I hear laughing in the back of the room? Hey, I can't help it if she thinks I'm a 'computer guru' - for as much as I try to convince her I'm not she says - but you know a lot more than I do. "Yes dear, you're right!" {sigh}

Not to long ago I started using Palemoon for my browsing needs so I should be able to strip out any Bookmarks I have in FF (they have already been imported into PaleMmoon) and leave that 100% for 'S12' We have 2 emails, 'ours' that goes to Icedove (family and friends in Canada use that as well as my wife's stuff) and the one that "Sector11" uses for the 'forums' I belong to.

Recently passed our 13th Anniversary and coming up to our 14th 'Juntos' Anniversary (Together)

Anything else is pretty well on a 'need to know basis' and 'pay grades' scales.

ohnonot · 2016-08-30 17:05:05

^ but the thing is, i think to solve the problem of this thread you have to find a trade-off between browser performance, teach and/or tell your wife to adopt a more conscious way of browsing, drop some oh-so important game score flash cookies, save your marriage...
:8

ot:
yes, i'm the computer guy at our work place, too.
recently my boss requested some photos on a usb stick to me, i told her it's probably best if she just brings a stick, i'll copy them over.
- i don't have one.
- me, incredulous look: why don't you buy one? (mind, she's also doing our accounting, with a computer)
couple days later she says i bought one, what now?
so i show her how to plug in a usb stick and drag'n'drop some files.
i should have told her that each and every of our collaegues could have shown her how to do that, but i didn't want to hurt her feelings.
so yeah, i'm the computer guy.

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