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#51 2016-05-07 21:40:10

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

Sector11 wrote:

@iMBeCil  -  Hey, thumbnails Please

Of course. Sorry ... done.

Sector11 wrote:

and then send a six-pack  smile

Here it is, for you Sector, and for others too:
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Awesome gimping there iMBeCil.

Moar like Awesome googling angel ... My gimp level is probably below zero ... took me 15 minutes to figure out how to make six pack big_smile big_smile


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#52 2016-05-07 22:15:23

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

OMG!  It's real.  I thought you GIMPed the label.

We have our own Beer!  Eat your heart out Ubuntu!

And we don't even need to install: brewtarget or qbrew.  smile


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#53 2016-05-08 08:33:36

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

johnraff wrote:

I'm thinking a bunsen-full-metapackage might be the way to go here. Users wanting to make sure they have all the packages could just install that (--with-recommends) and it would pull everything in. It wouldn't take long to make.

bunsen-meta-all is now on GitHub. If @twoion would like to put it in the apt repository, maybe people who have installed from the CD iso can test it?


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#54 2016-05-08 14:29:33

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

If a user dies that - and then decides s/he does want X app that was installed this way, will it be easy to delete it?

As I understand it the entire "metapackage" would be removed.


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#55 2016-05-08 14:33:30

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

Sector11 wrote:

If a user dies that - and then decides s/he does want X app that was installed this way, will it be easy to delete it?

As I understand it the entire "metapackage" would be removed.

It just Recommends: the packages so things should be fine.


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#56 2016-05-09 06:38:28

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

@hhh I've just tried out the CD iso - on a CD - and installed to a laptop. Everything went fine. smile


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#57 2016-05-09 21:27:18

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

Congratulations! May you discover many more elements.

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#58 2016-05-10 07:54:08

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

@hhh I noticed that flashplugin-nonfree is in the CD iso, where we've removed it from the regular lists. I'm guessing this is to make sure live sessions have some kind of flash support?


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#59 2016-05-11 03:25:58

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

To be honest, I think it was just an oversight. You recall, I abandoned trying to whittle down our Release and instead used an updated Alpha 1. It works, so all good, I say.

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#60 2016-05-11 03:32:02

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

johnraff wrote:
johnraff wrote:

I'm thinking a bunsen-full-metapackage might be the way to go here. Users wanting to make sure they have all the packages could just install that (--with-recommends) and it would pull everything in. It wouldn't take long to make.

bunsen-meta-all is now on GitHub. If @twoion would like to put it in the apt repository, maybe people who have installed from the CD iso can test it?

Looking into this now, I'll do a fresh CD-ISO install.

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#61 2016-05-11 05:58:12

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

hhh wrote:

I'll put up a thread detailing the differences once the dust has settled here (busy!) You can start by installing all the missing applications in the right-click menu. Switch leafpad for Geany and whatever terminal I used (lx or xfce) for terminator, and you're getting close.

Not to sound ungrateful or to rush this or anything, but is there some date when we can expect such a list?

Thanks for all the work.

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#62 2016-05-11 06:09:19

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

hhh wrote:

(having flashplugin-nonfree) It works, so all good, I say.

Especially considering the mess pepperflash has got into.

-edit- @johnraff, although our apt settings default to with recommends, the live build is actually without recs. I think users should run...

sudo apt install -no-install-recommends bunsen-meta-all

/opinion

This is a tricky one. Agreed, it would be better to install the apps without recommends, like the iso itself, but the metapackage recommends the packages on the list, it doesn't depend on them. If users ran that command they'd get nothing installed.

It's about allowing the user freedom to uninstall apps they don't want. If the metapackage depended on the list, then just uninstalling one app would trigger the removal of the metapackage, and make all the rest orphans which would be removed by the next 'apt-get autoremove'. icon_eek.gif

I wish there was a way to install the recommends of a package without having it go recursive, but I don't think there is. We could have a second package bunsen-meta-all-deps with the apps list as depends and users who wanted to keep their install size down could use that one, with the nasty gotcha mentioned above.


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#63 2016-05-11 06:11:43

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

ghorvath wrote:
hhh wrote:

I'll put up a thread detailing the differences once the dust has settled here (busy!) You can start by installing all the missing applications in the right-click menu. Switch leafpad for Geany and whatever terminal I used (lx or xfce) for terminator, and you're getting close.

Not to sound ungrateful or to rush this or anything, but is there some date when we can expect such a list?

Thanks for all the work.

The metapackage is in the repo. Just do

sudo apt-get install bunsen-meta-all

to get all the apps in the regular iso (plus their recommends as a bonus).


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#64 2016-05-11 11:54:15

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

johnraff wrote:

The metapackage is in the repo. Just do

sudo apt-get install bunsen-meta-all

to get all the apps in the regular iso (plus their recommends as a bonus).

Ah I see, great, thank you!

BTW, why is fdpowermon and fdpowermon-icons a dependency of this meta package? As far as I understand, for desktop machines it is removed immediately anyway by bl-welcome, and for laptops the backported xfce4-power-manager is installed instead of this.

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#65 2016-05-11 11:57:02

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

ghorvath wrote:

... and for laptops the backported xfce4-power-manager is installed instead of this.

Only if the user chooses to.


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#66 2016-05-11 12:49:13

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

damo wrote:
ghorvath wrote:

... and for laptops the backported xfce4-power-manager is installed instead of this.

Only if the user chooses to.

So what if I want to choose this and want to remove fdpowermon? Then it will uninstall the meta-package, and will put all of its other recommendations as removable by autoremove.

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#67 2016-05-11 14:57:36

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

ghorvath wrote:

So what if I want to choose this and want to remove fdpowermon? Then it will uninstall the meta-package, and will put all of its other recommendations as removable by autoremove.

No it's OK. That's why the packages are recommends and not hard dependencies. Even if you remove one, the metapackage will stay.


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#68 2016-05-14 15:10:16

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

Great! any changelog since rc2  devil

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#69 2016-05-23 18:23:53

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

Congratulations! I'll keep seeding BL, as I always do.
Your work is much appreciated.

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#70 2016-06-01 21:18:11

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

BL is awesome. I can install the CD sized ISO on my Asus 701 netbooks with a 4G SSD, add VLC, samba, and all the audio recording/editing software I use, and still have 1.3G free. And everything just works.

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#71 2016-06-01 21:55:17

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Re: [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

Thanks! I routinely install the full ISOs to a 6.3G testing partition with 3G to spare. We appreciate the feedback, and welcome to the forums!

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