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#1921 2023-04-21 14:23:33

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Xebian

Minimal* Xfce-4 on Sid. Built by some/one of the fine people that bring us Xubuntu.

(* medium size minimal)

xebian-index-500.png

https://xebian.org/

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#1922 2023-04-23 10:33:26

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

DeepDayze wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:

Think you need to make your album public if anyone can see it whether or not they are logged in so found this on how to set pictures in your flickr album to be viewable by anyone as by default new albums are set to private:

Of course leave any albums private for those pictures that you don't want anyone to see smile

Permissions:

Make sure all the photos in your album are set to be public. All private photos will not display in the gallery.

Note: The following steps are for accounts that have at least one album already created.

    In the top menu, navigate to You and select Albums
    Select the album
    Select the Edit in Organizr
    Click the Batch edit dropdown and select Change Permissions
    Ensure that Anyone (Public) is selected
    Add additional settings as needed (restrict commenting and notes, tags, etc.)
    Click Change Permissions
    Click Thanks!

Hope this helps you @Colonel Panic.

Thanks. I don't expect I'll stick with flickr after my free trial period runs out though; it's hardly worth it for me with the small number of pictures I want to display online. I'm looking for a good free service, preferably one which stays free (as Photobucket didn't).

Flickr has a free account that allows you up to 1,000 photos but will display with ads. Imgur and imgbb so far still are free and are useful. I used to use both Imageshack and Photobucket and they are now pretty expensive for a hosting service so I dumped them when they went paid.

Thanks, I'll look into it.

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#1923 2023-04-23 16:10:51

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:

Minimal Xubuntu

Xubuntu 23.04 Lunar Lobster daily release

Link

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/09/28/p6iobZAk_t.jpg https://images2.imgbox.com/66/ce/13IMdOLq_o.jpg

No snapd.

Add the following lines to:
/etc/apt/preferences.d/nosnap.pref

Package: snapd
Pin: release a=*
Pin-Priority: -10

for snap-free minimal system. Very responsive.

Nvidia drivers offered during the install.

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edit: Look at that sensible menu layout. wink

Like the look of this one too. It's getting harder and harder with distros now to stay away from either GNOME or KDE; most of them now seem to rely on libraries and software from one or the other. Of the two, I think KDE works better but they're both heavy on resources, which is a consideration for those of us with older computers.

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#1924 2023-04-30 01:35:56

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Noticed the Debian v11.7 update listed on Distrowatch. Now I have upped BL Beryllium, Debian XFCE and Spiral KDE (THANK YOU GeckoLinux!)


"Lithium" style is green? Why?! :(

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#1925 2023-05-01 02:00:04

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

"Crunchbang++" added to Distrowatch "clickbait" list. Now downloading the ISO to check it out. Their forum is Reddit LOL.

https://www.crunchbangplusplus.org/
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20230501#new


"Lithium" style is green? Why?! :(

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#1926 2023-05-01 14:36:19

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

taberacci wrote:

Noticed the Debian v11.7 update listed on Distrowatch. Now I have upped BL Beryllium, Debian XFCE and Spiral KDE (THANK YOU GeckoLinux!)

OUCH!

{snip}
Fetched 56.7 MB in 9s (6,500 kB/s)                                                                                                        
Reading package lists... Done
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116 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
N: Repository 'https://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease' changed its 'Version' value from '11.6' to '11.7'
Reading package lists... Done
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The following NEW packages will be installed:
  linux-headers-5.10.0-22-amd64 linux-headers-5.10.0-22-common linux-image-5.10.0-22-amd64
The following packages will be upgraded:
  at-spi2-core avahi-daemon base-files debian-archive-keyring ffmpeg fonts-opensymbol gir1.2-gtk-3.0 grep gtk-update-icon-cache
  intel-microcode isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common libatspi2.0-0 libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-core7
  libavahi-glib1 libavcodec58 libavdevice58 libavfilter7 libavformat58 libavresample4 libavutil56 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc-l10n libc6
  libc6-dev libc6-i386 libcuda1 libegl-nvidia0 libexiv2-27 libgit2-1.1 libgl1-nvidia-glvnd-glx libgles-nvidia1 libgles-nvidia2
  libglx-nvidia0 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-common libmariadb3 libncurses5 libncurses6 libncursesw6 libnvidia-cfg1 libnvidia-eglcore
  libnvidia-glcore libnvidia-glvkspirv libnvidia-ml1 libnvidia-ptxjitcompiler1 libpam-systemd libpostproc55 libpq5 libreoffice
  libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw
  libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-colibre libreoffice-writer libswresample3
  libswscale5 libsystemd0 libtinfo5 libtinfo6 libudev1 libuno-cppu3 libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3 libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3 libuno-sal3
  libuno-salhelpergcc3-3 libxapian30 libxpm4 linux-compiler-gcc-10-x86 linux-headers-amd64 linux-image-amd64 linux-kbuild-5.10
  linux-libc-dev locales mariadb-common ncurses-base ncurses-bin nvidia-alternative nvidia-detect nvidia-driver nvidia-driver-bin
  nvidia-driver-libs nvidia-egl-common nvidia-egl-icd nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-kernel-support nvidia-legacy-check nvidia-modprobe
  nvidia-smi nvidia-vdpau-driver nvidia-vulkan-common nvidia-vulkan-icd python3-uno shim-helpers-amd64-signed shim-signed
  shim-signed-common shim-unsigned systemd systemd-sysv tzdata udev uno-libs-private ure usb.ids xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
116 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 287 MB of archives.
After this operation, 383 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 

YUP continue

Fetched 287 MB in 22s (13.1 MB/s)                                                                                                         
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
Extracting templates from packages: 100%
Preconfiguring packages ...

AWESOME!  No bug reports.


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#1927 2023-05-01 15:50:52

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

taberacci wrote:

"Crunchbang++" added to Distrowatch "clickbait" list. Now downloading the ISO to check it out. Their forum is Reddit LOL.

https://www.crunchbangplusplus.org/
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20230501#new

Bummer that the Debian Installer messed up at bootloader stage three times. It looks like the Linux kernel it tries to install is v5.10.8 or something much older than the current Debian "Bullseye" revision 22. No thanks I'm glad I have BL Beryllium which works. smile


"Lithium" style is green? Why?! :(

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#1928 2023-05-01 15:54:36

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I have Bullseye #!++ iso that installs fine, if you want it.

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Sorry I was confused with the MIA SharpBang for a moment.

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#1929 2023-05-01 17:48:49

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:

Xebian

Minimal* Xfce-4 on Sid. Built by some/one of the fine people that bring us Xubuntu.

(* medium size minimal)

https://i.ibb.co/Q97y7KW/xebian-index-500.png

https://xebian.org/

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That looks pretty nice and great it's on a Debian rather than *cough* Ubuntu *cough* base.


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#1930 2023-05-01 19:33:54

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I tried to install Mint 21.1 (Cinnamon) but the installation failed because Mint needed a separate EFI partition to install and didn't recognise the one I'd created. May try again soon (I'm in no rush).

In other news; my efforts to install a desktop manager other than Gnome (which I dislike) in Fedora 38 failed, so I gave up and binned the DVD and installed the latest edition of Ultramarine (which is also based on Fedora) instead. It works, but the devs have changed the default wallpaper and not for the better IMO, and there's no obvious way of changing it.

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#1931 2023-05-01 20:22:36

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^ Did you see the boot times?

fast.png

Running Xbuntu Minimul also; very nice clean slate to build on.
Complete with nvidia drivers, codices, etc.

I used to laugh out loud at _buntus,
but if one looks close between the thorns, one may find a rose.

I watched the daily builds stop showing up and I know it was going to release.

https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/dail … l/current/

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#1932 2023-05-03 18:04:49

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Shelfed ArcoLinux into IMG.GZ for two months then restored it. Doing system update was his-two-L's, poor repo server performance, probably "systemd" interfering.  No "pacman-mirrors" program to help resolve it, and it resisted "reflector" too. So I decided to reinstall offline from one-week-old ISO. Great distro but bloated, comes with too much junk aimed at programmers. Also with stuff like "Desktop Thrasher" LOL. Comes with too many themes that eat up disk space and even worse, the XFCE ones seem to be kept separate from the Kvantum ones. ArcoLinux comes with Pamac being Snaps-ready -- oh the horror. One of the first things I uninstalled, don't want to complicate my life further thanks to M$, Canonical and Manjaro "corporation". It features "dkms" dependency work, making it a little bit faster than Debian rebuilding "initramfs". What a shame EndeavourOS "Artemis" flew by everything by comparison but that OS doesn't work that way anymore.


"Lithium" style is green? Why?! :(

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#1933 2023-05-03 21:11:25

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

taberacci wrote:

{snip ...} ArcoLinux comes with Pamac being Snaps-ready -- oh the horror. One of the first things I uninstalled, don't want to complicate my life further thanks to M$, Canonical and Manjaro "corporation".

Could not agree more!


And a side Note from Wikipedia: Snap_(software)

Snap Store
The Snap Store allows developers to publish their snap-packaged applications. All apps uploaded to the Snap Store undergo automatic testing, including a malware scan. However, the scan does not catch all issues. In one case in May 2018, two applications by the same developer were found to contain a cryptocurrency miner which ran in the background during application execution. When this issue was found, Canonical removed the applications from the Snap Store and transferred ownership of the Snaps to a trusted third-party which re-published the Snaps without the miner present. Although the Snap sandbox reduces the impact of a malicious app, Canonical recommends users only install Snaps from publishers trusted by the user.

So not trusting Canonical I'll take their own advice.


Don't Break Debian → I like the "important note" regarding: snap

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#1934 2023-05-04 10:17:09

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I've just installed the latest beta of Neptune (22nd March), and a warning for other people with older computers; Plasma Wayland takes an age to load if it loads at all. Plasma XOrg (which is also available from the bootup menu) loads just fine, but it's still a "heavy" system on system resources. I'll see if I can get some figures next time I'm in it.

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#1935 2023-05-04 13:33:50

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Sector11 wrote:

So not trusting Canonical I'll take their own advice.

Don't Break Debian → I like the "important note" regarding: snap

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bold italics in both cases are mine

Good link!

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#1936 2023-05-05 18:56:36

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

I've just installed the latest beta of Neptune (22nd March), and a warning for other people with older computers; Plasma Wayland takes an age to load if it loads at all. Plasma XOrg (which is also available from the bootup menu) loads just fine, but it's still a "heavy" system on system resources. I'll see if I can get some figures next time I'm in it.

I sort of had this problem with EndeavourOS GNOME, although it wasn't performance-oriented. It was File Roller unable to extract files to the current directory set in any file manager. Had to use "Extract All" command which was clunky. I got advice in another forum to start with X11 session instead of Wayland to fix the problem. Sadly the "gnome-shell" v44 was upgraded for Arch Linux... the end. Actually I have yet to get into that installation and see what happens.

If you don't rely on KDE system search that well you could try to disable it in the system settings. Because "baloo" could slurp a lot of memory. Happened to me when I first installed Spiral Linux KDE, it was running away sticking up the CPU until it created a 2GB file that I found months later and deleted. I had to absolutely disable search in the system to make sure it didn't happen again.


"Lithium" style is green? Why?! :(

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#1937 2023-05-06 16:03:32

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

taberacci wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

I've just installed the latest beta of Neptune (22nd March), and a warning for other people with older computers; Plasma Wayland takes an age to load if it loads at all. Plasma XOrg (which is also available from the bootup menu) loads just fine, but it's still a "heavy" system on system resources. I'll see if I can get some figures next time I'm in it.

I sort of had this problem with EndeavourOS GNOME, although it wasn't performance-oriented. It was File Roller unable to extract files to the current directory set in any file manager. Had to use "Extract All" command which was clunky. I got advice in another forum to start with X11 session instead of Wayland to fix the problem. Sadly the "gnome-shell" v44 was upgraded for Arch Linux... the end. Actually I have yet to get into that installation and see what happens.

If you don't rely on KDE system search that well you could try to disable it in the system settings. Because "baloo" could slurp a lot of memory. Happened to me when I first installed Spiral Linux KDE, it was running away sticking up the CPU until it created a 2GB file that I found months later and deleted. I had to absolutely disable search in the system to make sure it didn't happen again.

That's what I'd do first thing after a fresh KDE install as this reminds me of the slowdowns I experienced with indexing on Windows and I also disable indexing on a fresh Win install. Plasma with baloo disabled worked great even on my older HP system.

As for Wayland it's not all there yet...eventually it should be just as performant  as X11 and then I'd switch.

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#1938 2023-05-07 17:51:30

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

taberacci wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

I've just installed the latest beta of Neptune (22nd March), and a warning for other people with older computers; Plasma Wayland takes an age to load if it loads at all. Plasma XOrg (which is also available from the bootup menu) loads just fine, but it's still a "heavy" system on system resources. I'll see if I can get some figures next time I'm in it.

I sort of had this problem with EndeavourOS GNOME, although it wasn't performance-oriented. It was File Roller unable to extract files to the current directory set in any file manager. Had to use "Extract All" command which was clunky. I got advice in another forum to start with X11 session instead of Wayland to fix the problem. Sadly the "gnome-shell" v44 was upgraded for Arch Linux... the end. Actually I have yet to get into that installation and see what happens.

If you don't rely on KDE system search that well you could try to disable it in the system settings. Because "baloo" could slurp a lot of memory. Happened to me when I first installed Spiral Linux KDE, it was running away sticking up the CPU until it created a 2GB file that I found months later and deleted. I had to absolutely disable search in the system to make sure it didn't happen again.

Thanks for the tip! I generally use midnight commander for file searching (from a console) because it's faster than anything else I've seen so far, but really I think I should get to grips with grep / pgrep and do it that way.

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#1939 2023-05-07 17:54:36

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

DeepDayze wrote:
taberacci wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

I've just installed the latest beta of Neptune (22nd March), and a warning for other people with older computers; Plasma Wayland takes an age to load if it loads at all. Plasma XOrg (which is also available from the bootup menu) loads just fine, but it's still a "heavy" system on system resources. I'll see if I can get some figures next time I'm in it.

I sort of had this problem with EndeavourOS GNOME, although it wasn't performance-oriented. It was File Roller unable to extract files to the current directory set in any file manager. Had to use "Extract All" command which was clunky. I got advice in another forum to start with X11 session instead of Wayland to fix the problem. Sadly the "gnome-shell" v44 was upgraded for Arch Linux... the end. Actually I have yet to get into that installation and see what happens.

If you don't rely on KDE system search that well you could try to disable it in the system settings. Because "baloo" could slurp a lot of memory. Happened to me when I first installed Spiral Linux KDE, it was running away sticking up the CPU until it created a 2GB file that I found months later and deleted. I had to absolutely disable search in the system to make sure it didn't happen again.

That's what I'd do first thing after a fresh KDE install as this reminds me of the slowdowns I experienced with indexing on Windows and I also disable indexing on a fresh Win install. Plasma with baloo disabled worked great even on my older HP system.

As for Wayland it's not all there yet...eventually it should be just as performant  as X11 and then I'd switch.

The same again, and I agree about Wayland. I've never really seen the problem with XOrg anyway, but maybe it's something that affects newer computers than the ones I tend to get.

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#1940 2023-05-08 07:14:44

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Debian organization could be accused of doing really dumb things but I don't think they would ever do something like... just LOL programmers are becoming extinct. Or maybe there is something I'm missing here.

It's a good thing I failed installing Fedora 38 because I would have been angry at this folly. This was expected to come from a small independent distro!

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issu … 508#fedora

QUOTE REVIEWER:

One other thing to note is the fact that this version of Fedora does not come with the GNU Compiler Collection and Make preinstalled. These were included with Fedora 37, but not in 38. Other developer tools, like Git and Toolbox, are still part of the default package set.

It looks like IBM and Red Hat don't want any more "free" programmers if they aren't doing Flatpaks and stuff like that. hmm

EDIT: Fixed a couple of stupid typos.

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