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Martin · 2023-03-30 20:44:49

Yes, help for partially sighted is the main selling point of Slint. I fail to see (pun not intended) how a menu system bloated with multiple alternatives of file managers, editors etc helps people with poor eyesight. And why a Mandlebrot fractal zoom application? That is a very visual thing. Likewise Compis effects.

Mate itself is very straight-forward and the Mate applications (Caja, Pluma...) are likewise functional without being over-designed or making a big song and dance number of themselves. I found the original theme a little on the gaudy side but that is easily fixed. YMMV as this is about personal taste.

Most things run smoothly and reasonably snappy despite me only allocating one core (ten year old i3 processor) to this virtual machine. There has been a couple of very temporary freezes tonight (Compis?) but very, very far from the Micro$oft experience of "Window not responding" for minutes on end.

/Martin

taberacci · 2023-04-02 22:40:20

I'm not a "fanboi" of anything. If I say something it comes from experience, I don't have to lie about what I did. It was very frustrating trying to get through Debian Installer while it kept failing at bootloader install, but one day I succeeded. Too bad I still don't have it around. I do have Debian XFCE "Testing" which was a "weekly" ISO near Happy Holidays last year, a nice accomplishment but I'm not comfortable with that buggy D.E. anymore.

I don't like rolling-release distros. But a couple based on Arch have served me very well, such that some people would think that, after all, I am one of those people trying to wave the giant flag on other people's faces. Manjaro KDE has worked very well for me, even on an 11-year-old PC, had v5.15 LTS kernel for a long while and now on their v6.1 with almost no issues. I don't know why other people keep having problems with that distro, but I know what is the greatest problem at the other end. Still, Spiral KDE is a bit better to me even if it's outdated. Because I have to use it from a slow mechanical internal hard disk.

I like to install Linux on external USB disks. Whatever doesn't let me do that and doesn't let me have Wine "multilib" doesn't have my stamp of approval. 64-bit-only Wine isn't going to cut it -- I need to run some Windows installers. Rejected Triskel because of it a short time ago. One of the first couple of distros I had to set aside were Linux Mint for being retarded, and Mageia v8 for having ancient packages out of seldom-maintained repositories. Had to deal with it also with Void "musl" last year, and sometime later with Salix. Understood that it was going to be quite a job on Redcore but it was unusable to me for other reasons, really wanted to like that one, the Romanian project leader of that one has to be praised for what he's doing.

Solus and Void "glibc" were awesome about Wine but had to move on away from them after too long. Manjaro KDE just beat both of them hands down. The problem was, I tried to install Bunsen Labs Lithium onto a new 64GB external disk that I bought and ended up messing up things so I couldn't boot into Solus anymore. You have to see what Solus did to my ESP; I don't think I finished cleaning up after it.

Solus MATE was great with 32-bit Windows stuff but I was getting really carried away. Then an update caused RENOISE to crash instead of starting. I was like, "Oh no where's the boat now? I can't swim!" It was the beginning of the end. R.I.P.

Void, well, other people criticized it installing successfully with no sound and with no volume system tray thingie. I disliked the "stock" XFCE it came with. After a few months I got sick and tired of a rolling-release distro that slowly and steadily bogged down updating repositories and installing what it wanted. This was true with Fedora XFCE also but I should have stayed with it even longer. However was offended they put off v37 for a month. I had Fedora v35 GNOME but it sucked, I'm glad my setup of Spiral GNOME isn't that lame. I have to dig deep into my closet but I think I also have Fedora v36 MATE that I never updated, meant to keep it that way as last resort LOL. Maybe I'll try v38, or just wait until November or so for v39.

I've tried many others. A lot of them were crap like EasyOS, Gecko Linux "Static", Mabox, OpenMandriva ROME, siduction, Triskel and Zephix, and some of the Ubuntu flavors and those related like Mint, AV Linux and LegacyOS (based on Antix). Garuda refused to boot for me, Bluestar was freckin' confusing, RebornOS appears to install successfully only with GNOME. Archcraft refused to give me any sign of a window, infinitely just black screen with mouse cursor like waiting for KDE to load up. Mabox was certainly a hair better than NomadBSD and otherwise bloated and both too hot for my CPU fan. Recently I wanted to see what was the big deal with elementary OS. The D.E. is nice but a bit weird, didn't dare install it. It might have been much better than overrated System76 software LOL where I got that same "get a newer e2fsck!" problem as Debian "Testing" for a while. Had Rocky Linux for a bit but I will never again download an ISO much larger than 4GiB. Just before that when a new release of EuroLinux came out I picked up the "net-install" or whatever it was because it was much smaller. Big mistake, couldn't even give me a desktop. Checked out Mageia "Cauldron" of that alpha they have currently but soon got tired of it. The same with Gecko Linux based on "Tumbleweed", had a library update clash which was unacceptable to me. Incredibly that was able to do a full system update without problems out of a six-month-old ISO, although with very slow Internet. Had ALT Sisyphus "unstable" with MATE. It was pretty good for about two weeks, then I made a reckless decision to update and wrecked it so it booted very slowly. I had Devuan MATE but felt like I committed a dirty profound sin, ripped it off after a month. I cannot care if "systemd" is bloatware or spyware, to me it has to work how I want or forget it, because I cannot go back to Windows easily anymore.

Right now I'm downloading Ubuntu Cinnamon "Jammy". LOL.

taberacci · 2023-04-03 01:55:19

It didn't last long. This "new" Ubuntu "flavor" is slow as a hog, and it blocked doing anything with "apt" on terminal. It's bad enough I have to trust only LTS. IMO this Cinnamon version was made by different people from Kubuntu, which I have to keep offline for good to keep the "ebil snappez" away. With about 50 thousand files more at fresh install and first-time booting ArcoLinux is way better than this "new" Ubuntu.

Martin · 2023-04-03 19:20:02

Short Slint adventure update.

The dependency technology must be broken. I have installed a number of things now that does not work because some library or another is missing. Also, after a while I found that some programs that have installed correctly and work are flagged as not installed in Gslapt. I had to re-install Trojita to be able to remove it.

The user documentation tells me I can not install /any/ package that was installed during OS installation or the system will break. Really? I would understand this if it was a bare bones OS to which I had to add everything in user-land I wanted to have including WM/DE in the manner of FreeBSD.

/Martin

Colonel Panic · 2023-04-05 01:25:43

Thanks for the review Martin. Quite honestly, when I want to use Slackware Eric Hameleers's "Current" Slackware spin does everything I need from it and I don't see the need to replace it with anything else (although Slackel Openbox, of which a new version has just been released, is good too in my experience).

I just wish the Slackware devs (and Pat Volkerding in particular) would ditch Calligra though and add in Libreoffice instead (as I do when I install Slack myself).

Martin · 2023-04-05 05:44:56

Colonel Panic wrote:

Thanks for the review Martin. Quite honestly, when I want to use Slackware Eric Hameleers's "Current" Slackware spin does everything I need from it and I don't see the need to replace it with anything else (although Slackel Openbox, of which a new version has just been released, is good too in my experience).
I just wish the Slackware devs (and Pat Volkerding in particular) would ditch Calligra though and add in Libreoffice instead (as I do when I install Slack myself).

It was the installer capable of setting up full disk encryption for me that prompted me to take Slint for a spin.

/Martin

THX1138 · 2023-04-05 12:47:10

My distro-hopping story goes like this.
back in the late 1990's I discovered Red hat 4.something or other, maybe 5. something.
I joined a linux user group and pissed them off heartily because I was such a noob and they were all like professors of computer science and shiz like that. Then around the early 2000's i discovered Debian and loathed their purist ways, I felt like I was being inducted into a linux monastery, so went to Suse but it was so bloated I went back to debian after a year or so. then every distro imaginable and possible between 2005 and 2012 then I felt like I had learnt enough to start actually introducing businesses to linux. I think you would be hard pushed to find a distro I havent used. Anyway the upshot is that I find Debian based distro's to be the true heirs to the true linux way of life - and now feel at home in the monastery of debian linux and its holy flavours. I havent yet been inaugurated but I certainly worship at the altar. PS for a while I used to love Void but then it went haywire and flew off into outer space. Now I am back with bunsenlabs and just experimenting the last few weeks to get it how I love it

Martin · 2023-04-05 21:56:34

THX1138 wrote:

PS for a while I used to love Void but then it went haywire and flew off into outer space. Now I am back with bunsenlabs and just experimenting the last few weeks to get it how I love it

Went haywire?
What did they do?

/Martin

Colonel Panic · 2023-04-08 14:51:41

Finally signed up to Flickr, at least for a trial.

Enlightenment with the BlingBling theme running in Siduction Wintersky;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/198071096 … datetaken/

rbh · 2023-04-08 18:42:26

Colonel Panic wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/198071096 … datetaken/

Need to be logged in to flickr to view.

Colonel Panic · 2023-04-08 20:52:49

rbh wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/198071096 … datetaken/
Need to be logged in to flickr to view.

Is there a better option than flickr for displaying pictures on here, a free one if possible? I'm not overly happy with flickr myself but my Photobucket account got binned when I neglected to keep up my subscription.

deleted0 · 2023-04-08 21:17:07

See:

https://imgbb.com/
https://imgur.com/

8bit

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Colonel Panic · 2023-04-08 23:22:25

eight.bit.al wrote:

See:
https://imgbb.com/
https://imgur.com/
8bit

Thanks, I'll check those out soon.

Sector11 · 2023-04-09 04:08:59

Colonel Panic wrote:

Finally signed up to Flickr, at least for a trial.
Enlightenment with the BlingBling theme running in Siduction Wintersky;
https://www.flickr.com/photos/198071096 … datetaken/

Well:

403
You need to be signed in to see this

2023-04-09T04:05:53Z-179d9be0-e4ef-46d2-8aa9-1a139d666dda@server

It appears you don’t have permission to view this photo or video.

So much for Flickr

darknetmatrix · 2023-04-09 10:35:32

î +1

deleted0 · 2023-04-09 21:47:20

Minimal Xubuntu

Xubuntu 23.04 Lunar Lobster daily release

Link

No snapd.

Add the following lines to:
/etc/apt/preferences.d/nosnap.pref

Package: snapd
Pin: release a=*
Pin-Priority: -10

for snap-free minimal system. Very responsive.

Nvidia drivers offered during the install.

8bit

edit: Look at that sensible menu layout.

Last edited by deleted0 (2023-04-09 21:48:14)

Colonel Panic · 2023-04-17 11:47:29

Just updated Fedora (Exton version with Cinnamon), a 1.4 GB download in total but it's working well now with up to date software;

https://www.exton.se/extondefender-fedo … ld-230201/

DeepDayze · 2023-04-17 13:44:43

rbh wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/198071096 … datetaken/
Need to be logged in to flickr to view.

Think you need to make your album public if anyone can see it whether or not they are logged in so found this on how to set pictures in your flickr album to be viewable by anyone as by default new albums are set to private:

Of course leave any albums private for those pictures that you don't want anyone to see

Permissions:

Make sure all the photos in your album are set to be public. All private photos will not display in the gallery.

Note: The following steps are for accounts that have at least one album already created.

    In the top menu, navigate to You and select Albums
    Select the album
    Select the Edit in Organizr
    Click the Batch edit dropdown and select Change Permissions
    Ensure that Anyone (Public) is selected
    Add additional settings as needed (restrict commenting and notes, tags, etc.)
    Click Change Permissions
    Click Thanks!

Hope this helps you @Colonel Panic.

Last edited by DeepDayze (2023-04-17 14:30:59)

Colonel Panic · 2023-04-17 21:57:40

DeepDayze wrote:

rbh wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/198071096 … datetaken/
Need to be logged in to flickr to view.
Think you need to make your album public if anyone can see it whether or not they are logged in so found this on how to set pictures in your flickr album to be viewable by anyone as by default new albums are set to private:
Of course leave any albums private for those pictures that you don't want anyone to see
Permissions:

Make sure all the photos in your album are set to be public. All private photos will not display in the gallery.

Note: The following steps are for accounts that have at least one album already created.

    In the top menu, navigate to You and select Albums
    Select the album
    Select the Edit in Organizr
    Click the Batch edit dropdown and select Change Permissions
    Ensure that Anyone (Public) is selected
    Add additional settings as needed (restrict commenting and notes, tags, etc.)
    Click Change Permissions
    Click Thanks!
Hope this helps you @Colonel Panic.

Thanks. I don't expect I'll stick with flickr after my free trial period runs out though; it's hardly worth it for me with the small number of pictures I want to display online. I'm looking for a good free service, preferably one which stays free (as Photobucket didn't).

DeepDayze · 2023-04-18 01:41:27

Colonel Panic wrote:

DeepDayze wrote:
rbh wrote:
Need to be logged in to flickr to view.
Think you need to make your album public if anyone can see it whether or not they are logged in so found this on how to set pictures in your flickr album to be viewable by anyone as by default new albums are set to private:
Of course leave any albums private for those pictures that you don't want anyone to see
Permissions:

Make sure all the photos in your album are set to be public. All private photos will not display in the gallery.

Note: The following steps are for accounts that have at least one album already created.

    In the top menu, navigate to You and select Albums
    Select the album
    Select the Edit in Organizr
    Click the Batch edit dropdown and select Change Permissions
    Ensure that Anyone (Public) is selected
    Add additional settings as needed (restrict commenting and notes, tags, etc.)
    Click Change Permissions
    Click Thanks!
Hope this helps you @Colonel Panic.
Thanks. I don't expect I'll stick with flickr after my free trial period runs out though; it's hardly worth it for me with the small number of pictures I want to display online. I'm looking for a good free service, preferably one which stays free (as Photobucket didn't).

Flickr has a free account that allows you up to 1,000 photos but will display with ads. Imgur and imgbb so far still are free and are useful. I used to use both Imageshack and Photobucket and they are now pretty expensive for a hosting service so I dumped them when they went paid.

Last edited by DeepDayze (2023-04-18 01:42:30)

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