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#1721 2022-04-28 16:18:17

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Neptune Linux - MX Linux cross pollinate using MX NVIDIA installer:

Neptune-MX.png

Sparky Linux - MX Linux cross pollinate:

sparky-mx-repo.png

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#1722 2022-04-28 17:49:24

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

Exton used to have a Gentoo spin called ExGent which was a pretty good way of getting an easily installable Gentoo, ...

I thought the long install and configuration process was the point, a bit like LFS but more user-friendly, it's certainly where I learned the most. I just lack the time to concentrate on it (and the hardware to make the compile times reasonable), too many interruptions.


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#1723 2022-04-28 19:44:48

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:

Neptune Linux - MX Linux cross pollinate using MX NVIDIA installer:

https://i.ibb.co/zVdFT0G/Neptune-MX.png

Sparky Linux - MX Linux cross pollinate:

https://i.ibb.co/mywmN1N/sparky-mx-repo.png

MX has a lot of nice tools and utilities and I've grabbed some as well to use on BL and plain Debian...good stuff.


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#1724 2022-04-28 22:37:40

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:

Neptune Linux - MX Linux cross pollinate using MX NVIDIA installer:

https://i.ibb.co/zVdFT0G/Neptune-MX.png

Sparky Linux - MX Linux cross pollinate:

https://i.ibb.co/mywmN1N/sparky-mx-repo.png

Both look good!

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#1725 2022-04-29 06:46:19

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Bearded_Blunder wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

Exton used to have a Gentoo spin called ExGent which was a pretty good way of getting an easily installable Gentoo, ...

I thought the long install and configuration process was the point, a bit like LFS but more user-friendly, it's certainly where I learned the most. I just lack the time to concentrate on it (and the hardware to make the compile times reasonable), too many interruptions.

It's a long time since I looked at Gentoo seriously, but as I recall the long install and configuration process was one of the options you were given (out of three) when you installed and not compulsory. Most people who installed Gentoo that way did it because they wanted a system that was properly attuned to their hardware.

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#1726 2022-05-02 05:13:41

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

^ Nice. I'm curious to try the new GNOME, and I'd love to do it on the latest Arch ISO that includes an installer. Not sure 3G Ram is gonna cut it, though...

https://9to5linux.com/hands-on-with-arc … -installer

The hell, it'll work enough to test it.

https://archlinux.org/download/

Nice, plenty of seeders. Download in 15 minutes, installation... this weekend?


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#1727 2022-05-02 05:20:19

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

hhh wrote:

^ Nice. I'm curious to try the new GNOME, and I'd love to do it on the latest Arch ISO that includes an installer.

I know a certain distribution you could try that has an installer, is Arch based and will install the latest version of Gnome.


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#1728 2022-05-02 05:25:36

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I know, I know. I need to bring the laptop downstairs so I can install ArchLabs via Ethernet and install the idiotically old b43 Broadcom wifi driver after. I'll have to do that for Arch anyway, so consider it done, eventually.


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#1729 2022-05-02 10:49:14

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Dobbie03 wrote:
hhh wrote:

^ Nice. I'm curious to try the new GNOME, and I'd love to do it on the latest Arch ISO that includes an installer.

I know a certain distribution you could try that has an installer, is Arch based and will install the latest version of Gnome.

Hi Dobbie,

How big a download is GNOME? I didn't like Gnome 3 (I thought 2 was better), but I'm willing to give the 40 series a look.

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#1730 2022-05-03 03:24:26

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@Colonel, use the Arch package search (or Fedora's, or OpenSUSE Tumbleweed's)...

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x8 … ome-shell/

https://archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/gnome/


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#1731 2022-05-03 04:52:43

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:
Dobbie03 wrote:
hhh wrote:

^ Nice. I'm curious to try the new GNOME, and I'd love to do it on the latest Arch ISO that includes an installer.

I know a certain distribution you could try that has an installer, is Arch based and will install the latest version of Gnome.

Hi Dobbie,

How big a download is GNOME? I didn't like Gnome 3 (I thought 2 was better), but I'm willing to give the 40 series a look.

That is a good question I never take notice but on my system it is around 600mb.


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#1732 2022-05-05 01:21:30

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Dobbie03 wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:
Dobbie03 wrote:

I know a certain distribution you could try that has an installer, is Arch based and will install the latest version of Gnome.

Hi Dobbie,

How big a download is GNOME? I didn't like Gnome 3 (I thought 2 was better), but I'm willing to give the 40 series a look.

That is a good question I never take notice but on my system it is around 600mb.

(and hhh too) Thanks! I think I'll pass for the time being though.

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#1733 2022-05-07 00:30:42

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Dobbie03 wrote:
hhh wrote:

^ Nice. I'm curious to try the new GNOME, and I'd love to do it on the latest Arch ISO that includes an installer.

I know a certain distribution you could try that has an installer, is Arch based and will install the latest version of Gnome.

There ya' go, mate...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 33#p122333

Installed and awaiting GNOME. The Xfce session is nice though, in no hurry to leave. Think I'll hang out here a bit and re-learn Arch. wink Nice job, the installer was on the easier side of Arch installs (painless if you know what you're doing with linux installs).


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#1734 2022-05-07 02:14:49

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

hhh wrote:
Dobbie03 wrote:
hhh wrote:

^ Nice. I'm curious to try the new GNOME, and I'd love to do it on the latest Arch ISO that includes an installer.

I know a certain distribution you could try that has an installer, is Arch based and will install the latest version of Gnome.

There ya' go, mate...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 33#p122333

Installed and awaiting GNOME. The Xfce session is nice though, in no hurry to leave. Think I'll hang out here a bit and re-learn Arch. wink Nice job, the installer was on the easier side of Arch installs (painless if you know what you're doing with linux installs).


Welcome! Enjoy!


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#1735 2022-05-09 07:35:19

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Try Gentoo they said.
All those optimizations make it go fast they said.

My beard is an inch longer & I haven't got a fully functional command-line install yet.
GCC is very busy though.

Gentoo is for people who ALREADY have a fast system.


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#1736 2022-05-09 23:12:54

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Bearded_Blunder wrote:

Try Gentoo they said.
All those optimizations make it go fast they said.

My beard is an inch longer & I haven't got a fully functional command-line install yet.
GCC is very busy though.

Gentoo is for people who ALREADY have a fast system.

I can't really see the point of Gentoo in 2022 to be honest. As far as I know it doesn't do anything that Arch doesn't do (apart from optimise itself, which I would argue is very marginal given today's hardware), it is a lot harder to set up and install than Arch is and also has a smaller repository.

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#1737 2022-05-10 04:11:12

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It defaults to oprnrc instead of systemd is what it does different from Arch. I don't mind the extra effort given that.

Besides that significant attraction, their forum (Gentoo) is WAY less up-tight than the Arch one. I read some posts, saw how they treat n00bs who ask newbie questions on the Arch forum, and on the basis of that treatment decided I will NEVER install Arch.


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#1738 2022-05-10 06:00:24

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

GNOME 42.1 (Wayland) in sid...

https://i.imgur.com/DtPfzir.png (matching libadwaita)

https://i.imgur.com/JQ1J4BU.png (not matching, it's only a half dozen system apps so screw the occasional eyebleed)

Descriptions...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 50#p122350

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 72#p122372


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#1739 2022-05-10 06:13:31

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

GNOME 42.1 review...I haven't used it for so long that it's hard to say.

The obvious stuff... Wayland is unbelievably smooth, even with my old box using the nouveau driver, and the compositing on it is beast. Animations are... surreal. Just tile left and you'll see.

Crashed when I changed the interactive wallpaper, a static wall solved that.

Gcolor3 and xfce4-screenshooter don't seem to work under Wayland. GIMP is fine, I didn't check Inkscape yet.

I like it a lot. Retarded that it's still "Settings" and "Extensions" and "Tweaks", but still less complicated than Plasma. Integration of components is nice, RAM usage is low. To that, I immediately removed gnome-online-accounts, which removes gnome-core, which is just a meta-package. I removed at-spi2-core next, which leaves desktop idle after an hour of use at 1.2G while running Firefox, I'll take that.


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#1740 2022-05-10 06:20:53

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

twoion wrote:

GNOME42 is no KDE but I'll keep at it for a bit because after all it's the "supported" configuration. It has some very nice things.

Danke, earlybird. I want it on Debian stable ASAP.


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