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#381 2016-03-08 12:22:09

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

A friend of mine had a problem with his Debian install.

Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems:
- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)
- Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?)
- Check root= (did the system wait for the right device?)
- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)
ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/0c89a9d3-a736613-aa98-16fd1219ceb9 does not exist.
Dropping to a shell!
(initramfs)

But, Grub worked. He also had an Ubuntu install. First he tried to boot his Debian install. There was something that's called the out-of-memory killer working. It just went on a loop with something like this "Out of memory: Kill process 273  score 30 or sacrifice child"

Then he tried to boot his Ubuntu install, but with the same result. Then, he thought he'd do a fresh install, and tried to install from live isos, Ubuntu, BunsenLabs, Fedora, but the out of memory killer was on. None got booted, none could be installed. In a way, the laptop had died and gave him 2 days of anguish.

Only distro that helped him to boot his laptop was Puppy Linux. I have Puppy Linux Tahrpup in a usb stick. He could copy his precious data to an external hard disk. Right now, he is using a copy of Tahrpup in a usb stick to use his laptop.

Edit: He had tried Gparted live and Rescatux too, and they didn't boot, as that out of memory killer was on.

Edit2: That guy's laptop has 4GB ram, had a 4GB swap and is an Intel i3.

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#382 2016-03-08 15:46:24

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Anyone looking for a xfce alternative debian distro should try Antix 15 MX-I have installed this on a friends 32 bit laptop,and also on my 64 bit uefi samsung laptop, dual booting with Mint xfce 17.3-Antix boots in eufi without problem but you need to turn of secure boot.
I have an old 32 bit netbook that I use BL on - would also prefer to run BL on my uefi laptop but hope that at some time in the future we get a uefi supported image like Antix

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#383 2016-03-14 10:57:45

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Yesterday was a very interesting day for me, finding the remarkable Remix OS, something I was awaiting from Android for quite a while. I've been looking at long forgotten OSes such as Meego, JoliOS looking for something different than the so-called main stream OS looks.  https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 791#p21791, https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 819#p21819

Installed it on uefi Windows 10, on a USB 2.0 stick (I didn't have 3.0 stick). It worked like magic. If anyone's interested; http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/25/jides- … ductivity/, http://www.jide.com/en

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#384 2016-03-17 19:30:24

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Had been playing with another normal-like Android distro called Phoenix OS, https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 108#p22108,
If anyone wants to experiment, http://www.phoenixos.com/

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#385 2016-03-18 00:53:12

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous


No, he can't sleep on the floor. What do you think I'm yelling for?!!!

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#386 2016-03-18 20:26:30

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

The Android Remix OS is installed within the Debian Xfce that had Kwin all the time. It was still Wheezy, when I installed Kwin there (~Jan 2015). It has DockBarX and all. Later, it was moved to Testing, and then moved to Jessie, when Testing became Jessie. Moved a copy of that iso to the new Testing, meaning moved to KDE5, but DockbarX died.  Its still lovely with KDE5.

Anyway, this Android Remix OS and Phoenix OS are real beauties. Writing from Remix OS. Its always nice to play/work/use distros that not all that "normal." Its also interesting to install it in Linux, while the developer had not released one yet.

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#387 2016-03-21 21:53:20

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I find MX-15 is a painless way of getting 4.2 liquorix kernal on an Open Box system. It runs the identical conky to my BL setup and the xfce4 tiles and has a nice auto updating menu.


volvox.biz a very tedious daily account of life during covid,

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#388 2016-03-21 22:22:50

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

dbvolvox wrote:

I find MX-15 is a painless way of getting 4.2 liquorix kernal on an Open Box system.

AFAIK it should be "safe" to add the MX-15 repositories to a BunsenLabs system to take advantage of their tremendous range of backported programs.

The MX/MEPIS packaging team are real experts smile

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#389 2016-03-23 09:22:29

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

^ Agreed.

I have the antix repos enabled in all my Debians. Just remember to use the right ones. There is a repo for Stable and another one for Testing/Sid. And  be careful if installing specific antix or MX packages. Some might break your BL setup or whatever setup you use because of their very own sessions management. But many antix goodies and all the "generic" packages are safe to use.

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#390 2016-03-31 06:09:45

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

OpenBSD 5.9 is out in the streets.

http://www.openbsd.org/59.html

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#391 2016-04-01 12:01:04

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Snap wrote:

^ Agreed.

I have the antix repos enabled in all my Debians. Just remember to use the right ones. There is a repo for Stable and another one for Testing/Sid. And  be careful if installing specific antix or MX packages. Some might break your BL setup or whatever setup you use because of their very own sessions management. But many antix goodies and all the "generic" packages are safe to use.

I also found AntiX MX to be a very reliable platform. So light on drive space, too!

Recently, I've been distro-hopping through minimal, lightweight distributions. So far I found some enjoyment in Peppermint OS, Arch Linux (my college 'crash') and Manjaro Linux. Yesterday I installed bunsenlabs and switched repos to Debian Testing. Not a single ounce of bugs. I'm positively phased! smile I think I might even switch some of my boxes to Debian entirely.

New Bodhi Linux is also out so I might distro-hop to/on/into that one as well.


In a GNU/Linux daze since forever. Hail to Debian and Arch!

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#392 2016-04-02 06:24:14

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Been using Fedora w/ Gnome for the past three or four weeks. Can't say I care too much for the environment. Probably about to give Suse another try.

After which, I'll give Antix another try (been a while) and then Bodhi. Didn't know Bodhi was still around. Cool beans.

After that, I'll probably end up back at Arch.

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#393 2016-04-02 19:48:34

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

My iMac is running OSX (10.11), but I use pretty much the same open source apps on it that I use with Linux. But I'm running BunsenLabs (very sweet and fast)  wink , Debian, and Manjaro cinnamon in VM.

My main distro is Manjaro Cinnamon, which is all I'm running on my laptop.


What? Me worry?

Red pill or blue pill?

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#394 2016-04-03 17:07:33

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

AndyMender wrote:

New Bodhi Linux is also out so I might distro-hop to/on/into that one as well.

Just been trying this new Bodhi Linux. Very nice, indeed!
Bodhi & Moksha!

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#395 2016-04-03 21:35:38

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Bodhi Linux booted nicely in the uefi laptop too, and reacted well to touchscreen actions.  Has a lovely text editor ePad, and a super Terminology.

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#396 2016-04-17 21:11:31

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I'm trying out Alpine Linux at the moment.
http://www.alpinelinux.org/

It uses busybox as the init system rather than systemd and muscl libc rather than the GNU C library (glibc/libc6).

The distribution is intended for use on servers and firewalls and uses a grsec patched kernel as standard and all binaries are compiled as Position Independent Executables (PIE) with stack smashing protection 8) [1]

It installs a CLI-only, very lightweight (~130MiB for a minimal installation) system but there are desktops available in the repositories.

I am finding it to be lightning fast and very light on resources, see the screenshots thread for some scrots:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 509#p24509

[1] I have absolutely no idea what this means big_smile

EDIT: just booted to a clean XFCE desktop:

empty@alpine ~ % free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          3751        240       3510         35         13        109
-/+ buffers/cache:        117       3633
Swap:         4095          0       4095

117MiB used, nice.

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#397 2016-04-19 20:19:09

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#398 2016-04-19 22:08:35

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ostrolek wrote:

It's probably another Upstart. Snappy seems like a good idea for embedded systems, but on the desktop it will be outshined by Red Hat development focusing on XDG app, so Shuttleworth will be explaining to the world how Ubuntu drives the whole Linux ecosystem forward for a while, then Ubuntu will quietly adopt the new "standard"...

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#399 2016-04-20 19:47:02

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Tomorrow is another d-day. Something new coming up; https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/20/ … ith-16-04/

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#400 2016-04-21 20:54:05

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Alpine Linux is proving to be an interesting distribution.
http://www.alpinelinux.org/about/

The package manager has an inbuilt pinning system that allows new software versions to be installed on the stable base:
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpin … ry_pinning

Alpine can be installed to a hard drive in the traditional manner [1] but can also be set up to just use the hard drive for data storage (rather than the operating system itself) or can even be used in diskless mode:
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpin … disk.29.3F

It uses syslinux as the bootloader, which I am unfamiliar with, but I managed to get it to dual boot with GRUB by adding this kernel parameter to the Alpine entry:

modules=ext4

(modify to match the root filesystem)
https://github.com/Head-on-a-Stick/conf … cfg.alpine

The `grub-mkconfig`/`update-grub` scripts do not add this parameter so a stanza must be added to /etc/grub.d/40_custom if those scripts are used to configure GRUB.

It really it a fantastically lightweight and ultra-minimal system and makes Arch seem over-engineered by comparison.

[1] Warning: the standard installer will wipe the whole disk, as per the installation guide:

Warning: This will erase everything on your machine's harddisk. Don't blame me if someone sues you for this, your cat dies etc. You are warned.

To dual-boot Alpine, use this installation method instead:
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Insta … ualbooting

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