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Thanks for the heads up regarding Siduction. I had just checked there a couple days earlier and the images were a year old.
Just installed the fluxbox version in a VM and so far I like it.
FWIW, it really doesn't matter if the images are a year old. You install it then apt-get dist-upgrade. With sid, you use apt-get dist-upgrade instead of apt-get upgrade.
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Anaconda wrote:Thanks for the heads up regarding Siduction. I had just checked there a couple days earlier and the images were a year old.
Just installed the fluxbox version in a VM and so far I like it.
FWIW, it really doesn't matter if the images are a year old. You install it then apt-get dist-upgrade. With sid, you use apt-get dist-upgrade instead of apt-get upgrade.
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Thats right if you have a highspeed connection. If not patience (in the meaning of hours and hours) is your friend. I just don't want to apt dist-upgrade a debian system or pacman -Syu on arch or dnf update on fedora with an image a year old
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I'd be interested in seeing if Gnome2 and Compiz can be run reliably on a newer base. I used to love that combo. Ok, maybe I'm just being nostalgic, but I am getting restless again.
Of course you can run it. The problem is that it's unmaintained, so you'd have to be responsible for investigating and fixing any security exploits. This should not be a problem, though, because who is targeting Compiz on GNOME 2 for exploits?
For something more up-to-date, try Mate and Fusilli.
https://packages.debian.org/sid/mate-desktop
https://github.com/noodlylight/fusilli
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re: Compiz; Even easier, run Mint Xfce "Rebecca", which allows switching to Compiz in a session OOTB...
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2753
Or the Mint "Rosa" Xfce Beta if you like new and shiny...
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2962
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hinto wrote:Anaconda wrote:Thanks for the heads up regarding Siduction. I had just checked there a couple days earlier and the images were a year old.
Just installed the fluxbox version in a VM and so far I like it.
FWIW, it really doesn't matter if the images are a year old. You install it then apt-get dist-upgrade. With sid, you use apt-get dist-upgrade instead of apt-get upgrade.
-HThats right if you have a highspeed connection. If not patience (in the meaning of hours and hours) is your friend. I just don't want to apt dist-upgrade a debian system or pacman -Syu on arch or dnf update on fedora with an image a year old
Actually tried the year old images. The updating and upgrading was not going as smoothly as I would like, so since it was just a Vbox experiment I deleted it. I could have kept going but just didn't want to put any effort into it and figured I would wait for the new images that I assumed were not too far away.
Of course I didn't know they would come as quickly as they did.
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@hhh Thanks for the feedback. I am aware of the options you mentioned and have even tried some of them more recently.
Upon further reflection I think the real issue I have is more to do with the entire combination of Gnome2, Compiz-Fsuion, and GTK2 being replaced. Not that I am against progress, but nothing since that beautiful combination has had the same degree of functionality combined with ease of changing *dark* themes complete with non-borked text boxes, matching icons etc.
Gnome2 was the first DE I can recall that had full Dropbox integration along with a whole host of other properly working features. It was, at the time of it's replacement by Gnome3, a very mature and beautiful DE that could be customised more completely and more easily than anything else I have tried before or since.
It has taken a long while for some of the others to get close. Still none that are a match imho. The long and painful transition from GTK2 to GTK3 has been a big issue for ease of theme tweaking has been part of the problem as well.
Anyways, it is what it is. I'll keep playing with what we have now, and I'll take another look at xfce with compiz. I have not tried that for a while. It has probably improved some.
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For those who like living on the edge, a new release of siduction is out:
http://news.siduction.org/2015/12/relea … v-release/Probably a better option than BunSidLabs...
Awww, 64 bit only.
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Upon further reflection I think the real issue I have is more to do with the entire combination of Gnome2, Compiz-Fsuion, and GTK2 being replaced. Not that I am against progress
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Progress is good as long it brings improvements and reliability. GTK3 breaking things every now and then plus old bugs never fixed is not progress IMHO. It's crap development. So bad it's all over the place and still expanding. Now Mate is GTK3... sigh.
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I have, finally, migrated from #! to BL. Does that count as distro-hopping?
Setting it up on a two-HD RAID (mix of ext4 and btrfs partitions) was a breeze. I did practice on a virtual machine this summer and took detailed notes...
Now I *only* have to install and set up my favourite programs.
/Martin
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prove their worth by hitting back."
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dwmX32 JAN-16 ISO available
32bit at last
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dwmx/
dwmX 6.1 git
spaceFM rolling
sublime text 3
smxi
iceweasel aurora
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Thumsbup! Going down!
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For those who like living on the edge, a new release of siduction is out:
http://news.siduction.org/2015/12/relea … v-release/Probably a better option than BunSidLabs...
You might want to try this Sid based 32 bit distro, just uploaded?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/nelum-o … =directory
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^ No thanks, I prefer Arch for shiny new stuff
I'm now back in Archland
Having problems with X in jessie eating CPU so I'm going to see if Arch suffers as well.
Couldn't be bothered rebooting from Debian or making any new partitions so I just created a new btrfs subvolume for the Arch system then downloaded an Arch bootstrap image (a tarball of a very basic Arch filesystem designed just for installation), untarred it in /tmp and ran `arch-chroot` from the binary directory of the unpacked filesystem to chroot into the same filesystem (that was cool) then initialised the pacman keyring and installed the base metapackage, mounted the btrfs subvolume and the EFI system partition then finally ran `pacstrap` to install the base system to the Arch btrfs subvolume.
After that, it was just a question of setting up the default UEFI loader on the EFI system partition so I could boot the whole shebang using the systemd-boot binary from Arch.
Good fun
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^ This Nelum_Openbox is for the time being,
http://sourceforge.net/projects/nelum-o … =directory
The next live installable iso would be based on Arch Linux. Getting tested at the moment.
I'm always in the Archland!
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The next live installable iso would be based on Arch Linux. Getting tested at the moment.
Sounds fascinating
Good luck!
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^ For the time being, the guys can check this user created Debian Sid based Openbox live installable Nelum_Openbox.iso.
Sid is much more interesting than Jessie.
By the way, this iso has an auto-updating Menu, a Control Center and an Update Center that can be accessed from the Menu. Hotcorners at top-left, top-right and bottom-left. Google-Chrome, Iceweasel, LibreOffice and many more...
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dwmX32 JAN-16 ISO available
I've been playing around with dwmX for the last few days. It's a superb Debian tiled distrolette. It took the effort out of setting one up. Thanks so much.
As for my Distro-hopping I used to be a bit of a slapper. But my mission critical Linux box has been Ubuntu for a while now. I tend to stick with Debian based distro's. Although, I did have a lengthy affair with Arch and Openbox.
I prefer Unity DE over pure Gnome on my main box but on my personal laptop I like something 'more fun' and have flirted with other members of the *buntu family LXDE probably being my favorite.
I ran #! for several years for it's 'Openbox done properly' reputation and will almost certainly find space for BL when it reaches release (currently testing BunSid in a VM).
Other distros I have used and like include Puppy Linux (various Pups), Siduction, Antix and various FrankenDebian DE's installs that I have stitched together myself.
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Here's a stupid easy Kiosk. I needed something for the Shelter and there will be no one to maintain it.
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For those who maybe interested in a Devuan build, different flavors too! The distro can be found on Sourceforge. Star Morbius x64, and I think it is a really good distro. Devuan is still very much in development, hopefully see the beta soon.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/linnix/ … =directory
After the install, change the etc/apt/sourcelist to this one line only, you will be able to install the non-free firmware, along with other firmware after doing so.
deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main contrib non-free
Cheers
Z
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I am pretty tired of openSUSE KDE as my secondary distro. After this morning's DistroWatch Weekly, I'm thinking about trying Solus OS. Ikey's response to their stupid review is priceless (and, it is a full review, not one of their quick reviews).
Tim
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