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hhh · 2023-09-07 01:05:23

Colonel Panic wrote:

I've also got Siduction 22.1 installed ("Standing on The Shoulders of Giants", the distro's tribute to 30 years of Debian's being in existence) and it's mostly OK except that udisksctl doesn't work. I've made a post to this effect on the Siduction forum but haven't had a reply so far.

What, this?

https://packages.debian.org/sid/udisks2

So that means, what... you can't file-browse your phone or other connected device?

Colonel Panic · 2023-09-07 14:03:08

Hi hhh,

I don't have a connected 'phone, my problem is not being able to use udisks2 to access my other hard drive partitions from within Siduction. Basically, it times out;

https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=9094.0

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-09-07 23:16:36)

unklar · 2023-09-07 18:03:13

The result of the installation on bare metal.

With 10 work surfaces conky came to its position with the help of 'wmctrl'. Without conky was out of the question!
This time I didn't use sudo, but, siduction's own tool doas, which works wonderfully.
The found power-menu for rofi (I got rid of the icons) works reliably.

@PackRat, if you're reading this, I still haven't found a way to remove obsolete entries (from programs etc. that are no longer installed) from rofi to remove. Do you have any advice ? Thanks!

Edit, and thanks for nsxiv

Last edited by unklar (2023-09-07 18:07:58)

PackRat · 2023-09-07 19:11:17

@unklar -

Look in the ~/.cache directory. rofi and dmenu write files there. Deleting them clears the rofi/demenu lists. I think that's what your after; otherwise I need some more info and maybe a screenshot.

And doas is originally an OpenBSD tool. Several Linux devs have ported it to their distros (including one of Void's). If it's not available for a given distro, a user can clone a git repo and compile it.

rbh · 2023-09-07 19:31:17

PackRat wrote:

If it's not available for a given distro

Doas have been in debian repos since bullseye.

Martin · 2023-09-07 21:07:10

unklar wrote:

The result of the installation on bare metal.

I am also testing dk on bare metal, on my side-kick Lenovo X230. Right now it is running i3 as I have not had time to make audio volume and screen brightness adjustments work.

/Martin

unklar · 2023-09-08 08:43:40

PackRat wrote:

@unklar -
Look in the ~/.cache directory. rofi and dmenu write files there. Deleting them clears the rofi/demenu lists. I think that's what your after; otherwise I need some more info and maybe a screenshot.
And doas is originally an OpenBSD tool. Several Linux devs have ported it to their distros (including one of Void's). If it's not available for a given distro, a user can clone a git repo and compile it.

OK, I had already read about the cache. The writer recommended not to manipulate it. So I thought there is another way.

Now I did that and I'm happy with the result, @PackRat. Thanks.

unklar · 2023-09-08 08:45:55

Martin wrote:

unklar wrote:
The result of the installation on bare metal.
I am also testing dk on bare metal, on my side-kick Lenovo X230. Right now it is running i3 as I have not had time to make audio volume and screen brightness adjustments work.
/Martin

i3 is cool

unklar · 2023-09-08 08:47:19

Colonel Panic wrote:

Hi hhh,
I don't have a connected 'phone, my problem is not being able to use udisks2 to access my other hard drive partitions from within Siduction. Basically, it times out;
https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=9094.0

If I'm not mistaken, I had already replied to you once:
In the siduction forum there is no good chance to get an answer on 'error descriptions'.

Colonel Panic · 2023-09-10 17:07:35

unklar wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:
Hi hhh,
I don't have a connected 'phone, my problem is not being able to use udisks2 to access my other hard drive partitions from within Siduction. Basically, it times out;
https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=9094.0
If I'm not mistaken, I had already replied to you once:
In the siduction forum there is no good chance to get an answer on 'error descriptions'.

Yes you did, but on a different issue (the desirable or necessary frequency of updates) and it was over a year ago.

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 79#p122779

I think it's a good idea to let the Siduction devs know what's going on with their distro even if they don't reply. It could be a Debian Testing or later problem as I've just tested udisks2 in Salix and it works fine, but it also times out in Sparky 8 (another Debian distro, based on Testing).

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-09-10 17:41:43)

unklar · 2023-09-11 08:29:45

Colonel Panic wrote:

unklar wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:
Hi hhh,
I don't have a connected 'phone, my problem is not being able to use udisks2 to access my other hard drive partitions from within Siduction. Basically, it times out;
https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=9094.0
If I'm not mistaken, I had already replied to you once:
In the siduction forum there is no good chance to get an answer on 'error descriptions'.
Yes you did, but on a different issue (the desirable or necessary frequency of updates) and it was over a year ago.
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 79#p122779
I think it's a good idea to let the Siduction devs know what's going on with their distro even if they don't reply. It could be a Debian Testing or later problem as I've just tested udisks2 in Salix and it works fine, but it also times out in Sparky 8 (another Debian distro, based on Testing).

Since you seem to be the only one with this error, the obvious thing to do is to look in your own system?

Well, you could provide terminal output as support for the developers.
e.g. about the partitioning scheme:

lsblk -f -o +PARTUUID

and the fstab.

You could use the journal and show what happens. e.g.
open a terminal and write 'in

journalctl -af

leave this open and open another terminal and start this application (file manager), finally, mount the other partition...
For the developer is now interesting, what is in the 1.terminal etc. usf.

Colonel Panic · 2023-09-13 19:23:18

Thanks for the information unklar, though I'm a bit tired at the moment so will give your suggestions a try later.

As for being the only one with this problem, one of the first things I do when I have a difficulty of this kind is google it to see whether or not other people have had the same problem and there's a quick and easy fix for it (and when there is, I've usually posted it in the "Tips" section of this website).

What I've noticed this time is that it has cropped up several times on other distros' forums and usually with distros that use very up-to-date software (such as Manjaro). No easy fixes though as far as I can see unfortunately.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-09-13 19:35:21)

or1o9 · 2023-09-17 08:28:13

I am very sidetracked at the moment by Rhino Linux, Xfce based on the Ubuntu devel repositories. Comes with the "Unicorn desktop", which is a couple of things of their own on top of Xfce. Comes with rhino-pkg their own pkg manager that covers apt, pacstall, snap e t c, nala and some other stuff. Personally this have been a very interesting experience for me. Link to website below for more information about it.

https://rhinolinux.org/landing/

Unfortunately this has made me skip the alpha iso of Boron. But I sincerely hope to have time and energy for the beta/rc when that time comes.

Nili · 2023-09-18 07:35:40

My next target would be Fedora 40/KDE next year. With the release of Plasma 6, I want to test it with this OS from scratch on my real hardware.

Until then, Tumbleweed it has served me wonderfully for about a year. Really stable distro for a rolling release.

Colonel Panic · 2023-09-21 22:47:46

Another good distro; Spiral, by the same dev (I think it's only one) who brought you the Gecko set of distros based on OpenSUSE.

I downloaded the XFce version.Spiral is based on Debian and from running the update it looks like oldstable as well (but still nothing wrong with that).

https://spirallinux.github.io/

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-09-21 22:49:29)

Martin · 2023-09-22 05:54:22

Installed Spiral XFCE on my Lenovo X230 a month or so ago. Works just fine but I am mostly in i3 rather than XFCE.

/Martin

Colonel Panic · 2023-09-25 10:49:21

Martin wrote:

Installed Spiral XFCE on my Lenovo X230 a month or so ago. Works just fine but I am mostly in i3 rather than XFCE.
/Martin

Great! There's also one called Debian Easy that I've just seen on the Spiral forums and which is based on Spiral but with a few additional features for ease of use, extra repositories, and uses Btrfs as its default file system.

It doesn't really qualify as a full additional distro though; it's more of a spin or fork of Spiral.

https://debianeasy.github.io/

Martin · 2023-09-25 17:39:48

I took a look at Debian Easy too but decided to go for Spiral. Spiral also uses Btrfs as default file system.

/Martin

Colonel Panic · 2023-09-26 18:55:22

Fair enough. It probably doesn't matter much for most of us here; the distro is aimed at people who are new to Linux (and Debian).

The Spiral dev is (as most people here know) the same one who is responsible for Gecko, and they've said on the Gecko forum that they're moving away from OpenSUSE and are going to be concentrating on Debian and Spiral in future.

Incidentally, I've tended to shy away from Btrfs recently because of a bad experience I had a while back where the utility which deleted old restore points didn't work and I ended up having to do it all manually instead (which got to be a pain). I use ext4 practically always now and don't see a good reason to change; it basically stays out of my way and, on the occasions when something goes wrong with it, it is quick and easy to put right.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-09-26 19:12:39)

or1o9 · 2023-10-02 18:56:41

Spiral Linux 12.231001 release has arrived.

https://github.com/SpiralLinux/SpiralLi … t/releases

Rhino Linux 2023.3

https://rhinolinux.org/news

Last edited by or1o9 (2023-10-02 19:13:48)

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