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#2081 2023-08-23 22:07:29

marens
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

... all I want displayed are the time, day and date, CPU usage, swap and memory usage. I also don't want to get into lua scripting if I can possibly avoid it.


Sorry, I haven't tested that conky before.
This should work for you:

use_xft yes
xftfont 123:size=8
xftalpha 0.1
update_interval 1
#total_run_times 0

own_window yes
own_window_type normal
own_window_transparent no
own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager
own_window_colour 000000
own_window_argb_visual yes
own_window_argb_value 0

double_buffer yes
#minimum_size 250 5
#maximum_width 500
draw_shades no
draw_outline no
draw_borders no
draw_graph_borders no
default_color white
default_shade_color red
default_outline_color green
alignment top_middle
gap_x 10
gap_y 120
no_buffers yes
uppercase no
#cpu_avg_samples 2
#net_avg_samples 1
override_utf8_locale yes
use_spacer right

#minimum_size 0 0

TEXT
${voffset 10}${color D4D4D4}${font GE Inspira:pixelsize=120}${time %H:%M}${font GE Inspira:pixelsize=34}${color A4FFA4}${time %S}${font}${voffset -84}${goto 300}${color FEB12C}${font GE Inspira:pixelsize=42}${time %d} ${voffset -15}${color FFFFFF}${font GE Inspira:pixelsize=22}${time %B} ${color FF4040}${time %Y}${font}${voffset 24}${font GE Inspira:pixelsize=58}${goto 360}${color E4E4E4}${time %A}${font}
${voffset 1}${offset 12}${font Ubuntu:pixelsize=12}${color FFA300}CPU ${offset 9}$color${cpu cpu0}%${offset 30}${color FFA300}RAM ${offset 9}$color$mem / $memmax${offset 30}${color FFA300}SWAP${offset 8}${color FFFFFF}${swap} / ${swapmax}${font}${voffset 80}

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#2082 2023-08-24 01:47:54

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

marens wrote:

@Sector11

Stop the insults.
We were not and will never be (thankfully) friends.

Just skip my posts.
I don't think I'm asking too much of you.

I have rethought this.

As my post was not insulting in any respect and all posts here are "public" I will respond to any post I deem fit to respond to as a forum member.

As a Moderator here I will say, "Yes, I think you are asking too much in a public forum."


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#2083 2023-08-24 02:03:26

marens
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Sector11 wrote:
marens wrote:

@Sector11

Stop the insults.
We were not and will never be (thankfully) friends.

Just skip my posts.
I don't think I'm asking too much of you.

I have rethought this.

As my post was not insulting in any respect and all posts here are "public" I will respond to any post I deem fit to respond to.

As a Moderator here I will say, "Yes, I think you are asking too much in a public forum."


Whenever I try to help someone, one name appears and intervenes in the dialogue:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 55#p126255
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 26#p128626
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 82#p128682
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 27#p128727

I wasted my time here:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 62#p128762

The last one:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 02#p129102

As you can see I progressed from the qualification of 'game weather idiots' (first link) to 'collector of miscellaneous useless objects' (last link).

That's all I have to say.

Last edited by marens (2023-08-24 02:15:57)


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#2084 2023-08-24 06:54:24

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Marens, I think you are misunderstanding things.

marens wrote:

Whenever I try to help someone, one name appears and intervenes in the dialogue:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 55#p126255

Sector11 wrote:

LOVE IT!!!!!

Sector11 wrote:
marens wrote:

@unklar

Open terminal.

1.Hold Ctrl + Shift and press U once, then without Ctrl + Shift type 1f305 and press Enter.
2.Same as above, just type 1f312.

Do you get unicode characters sunrise and moon in color?
Repeat the same with the text editor.
Is there a difference?

Not here: [Ctri][Shift]u

 28 Jul 23 @ 10:54:35 ~
   $ ?

It worked for me in fact - I guess S11 was missing the necessary font.

Sector11 wrote:
unklar wrote:

OK.
Now I'm waiting for wind calm....   https://i.imgur.com/27KAlfN.png

ME: Holding breath!

Does that help?

Sector11 wrote:
unklar wrote:

BTW, it is 'windless' at the moment.

You took my breath away.
https://i.ibb.co/YZwCjqw/electric-shock-sm.png

Sector11 wrote:

Post the whole thing I'd like to try that one.

Sector11 wrote:

Nice find!!!!

You're another conky packrat  smile

packrat ~ noun
1. a collector of miscellaneous useless objects

I disagree with the usless part  smile

As you can see I progressed from the qualification of 'game weather idiots' (first link) to 'collector of miscellaneous useless objects' (last link).

That's all I have to say.

Not all of Sector11's posts were addressed to you, and none of them were aggressive in any way, or even critical. Several of them were quite positive.

I really don't think there's any problem here.

And no reason why you and Sector11 can't be friends.

Last edited by johnraff (2023-08-24 06:58:46)


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#2085 2023-08-24 08:09:16

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I am on vacation and have limited ability to act.

Full agreement with @johnraff.



@marens,

for heaven's sake. What a misunderstanding(s) on your part!

'game weather idiots' referred to the weather service providers Wunderground; Weather.com and Accuweather, which by their, as Teo once wrote, senseless changes make the Conky weather life difficult for all of us.

@Sector11 and I know each other for a long time and we like to do our Schabernack.

This is not my native language either. So, it's difficult sometimes.


PLEASE ask in the future if you don't understand something or a misunderstanding is imminent.


Nothing goes against you here, not even on the part of @Sector11.  !!

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#2086 2023-08-24 08:16:55

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Posts: 3,853

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

marens wrote:

We were not and will never be (thankfully) friends.

Looks like you're on the losing end here.  Sector11 is a top man and a kind heart, I'm proud to call him a friend.


"All we are is dust in the wind, dude"
                                       - Theodore "Ted" Logan
"Led Zeppelin didn't write tunes that everybody liked, they left that to the Bee Gees."
                                       - Wayne Campbell

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#2087 2023-08-24 09:13:23

Sector11
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

marens wrote:

Whenever I try to help someone, one name appears and intervenes in the dialogue:

One? From your own links below there are at least two and most of my post were directed at others not you.  Am I not allowed to talk with my friends?

I am posting to unklar who is making a comment about the "weather providing sites" and if memory serve me he is referring to something TEO said about them.  So in fact your "one name appears" is wrong as this had nothing to do with you.  And unklar cleared that fact up as well.

[Ctrl]+[Shift]u+1f305 or 1f312 did not work for me.  You responded in the following post and that was that.  Systems are different.  No problem here.

Again another comment to unklar, not you, a joke about making no wind with my breath.  Two posts later unklar said he's older so could not hold it long.  That interaction was not directed at you by either one of us.  We are just old friends in time and age.

And another link where I posted a funny comment to my friend unklar and you are saying this is intervening in your posts?  You are clearly in the wrong.

I wasted my time here: 5th link

Hmmmm I asked you to post the whole thing because in your previous post you said:

If anyone wants to try 7-day forecast, I will post my solution.

And you replied in the next post:

OK
Open gis-weather.py file.

Find Line: {snip}

How is that wasting your time?

The last one: Link 6

As you can see I progressed from the qualification of 'game weather idiots' (first link) to 'collector of miscellaneous useless objects' (last link).

That's all I have to say.

unklar has explained what: "game weather idiots" was about.
Now looking at that last link again:
I said:

Nice find!!!! smile
You're another conky packrat  smile

Nice find - hunting through your 'archives' to find a conky you knew you had to help Colonel Panic.
I have spent HOURS looking for conkys I have to help people that is why I said:
another conky packrat and I gave you the definition from "artha" and even said:

I disagree with the useless part  smile

Conkys are not useless.
Well except for people that don't like them or use them.

So if you really want to leave and stop helping people with Teos scripts or conky in general that is all on you but you will be leaving for the wrong reason.
The people you were helping will miss you as much as they miss Teo.

Have a nice day.

EDIT:  My corrected post

OK let's get back to distro hopping and put conkys in the conky threads.

Last edited by Sector11 (2023-08-24 10:30:20)


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#2088 2023-08-24 14:38:23

marens
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@All

@unklar has nothing to do with it (game weather idiots). He made his post before. @Sector11 quoted him while I was trying to help another user.
Topic: Weather.
Coincidence?

For all other cases, you should look at a couple of posts before @Sector11 appear.The context is always the same.
Coincidence?

I just ignored it.

I want my name not to be associated with game weather idiots or collector of various useless items in any context.

I don't like that way and that's why I addressed him publicly.

I have nothing against @Sector11.
I just kindly asked him not to do similar things in the future.

Friends are allowed things that others are not.
Everyone can choose friends, I hope it's not forbidden if you don't want someone to be your friend but I always respect everyone.

Sector11 wrote:

So if you really want to leave and stop helping people with Teos scripts or conky in general that is all on you but you will be leaving for the wrong reason.
The people you were helping will miss you as much as they miss Teo.

No amount of talking can replace action.
I have already tried to help another user.


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#2089 2023-08-25 00:03:34

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

whoa...I sense a disturbance in the matrix..


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#2090 2023-08-26 13:07:14

Colonel Panic
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I've just installed the latest version of Sparky LXQT, Sparky 8 (Seven Sisters), and it's working well although I don't much like the aesthetics of it. Sparky works on a similar principle to Zenwalk; one application per function but with most things covered.

It's probably best that I don't comment on the Conky controversy except to say, thanks to everyone who has helped with advice. There doesn't seem to be a right or wrong to this; you can have a fully featured Conky (but with smaller text, to get it all in) or a more sparsely featured one with larger fonts, and it's a matter of personal preference which you choose.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-08-26 13:09:50)

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#2091 2023-08-26 18:20:57

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@ Colonel Panic et al

I have always tried to help people with conkys since I fist discovers I actually could help.
I am not going to stop over a misunderstanding on the part of someone else.
His problem is not my problem.
I explained my position, and other theirs.  The people that were benefiting with help with Teo's scripts will feel the crunch.
If you want to talk conky feel free to do so.
I'd be glad to help you get that nice simple conky running that you said you wanted.
However best to keep it in the conky threads.
I can make that conky a lot simpler than it is as well.  Lots of commands in the text area that really are not needed.


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#2092 2023-08-28 19:39:09

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Hi @Sector11,

Thanks for your offer of help. However, I'm reasonably happy with that conky file I posted in the configuration thread, which was why I posted it there - in the right distro (and I've got it set up in Fedora Rawhide at the moment), I think it's fine.

I've recently downloaded the latest version of Bunsen Boron and when I get that one set up and running, that will be the time I'll be looking for a more Gotham-type Conky config.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-08-28 19:43:31)

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#2093 2023-08-29 12:05:31

Sector11
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@ CP
Totally respect that.
Enjoy.


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#2094 2023-08-31 21:21:29

Colonel Panic
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Sector11 wrote:

@ CP
Totally respect that.
Enjoy.

Thanks, I will.

A couple more distros have come out this week that may be of interest; the latest version of AntiX (23), is one, and also the latest version of Pardus, also by coincidence 23 but which I haven't tried (I've got the beta version of AntiX 23).

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#2095 2023-09-01 15:34:21

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Posts: 2,641

Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

My old computers are getting on in years. The siduction installations on them (kde-plasma 'patience'2017 and lxde 'paint-it-black'2016) are also not the youngest anymore and show their quirks.

So, I took the latest ISO without X and installed it in QEMU
with the Tilling window manager dk. The goal is to repeat this later on one of the 'old ones' because it's 'easy' and I like the keyboard operation. Thanks to @cog and @knob for the ideas and to the developer of dk, @natemaia.




A few remarks on how I proceeded.
First, thanks to the siduction team for the nox. It is perfect, has no bugs (anymore) and is also OK with 1,1GB size.


-I always recommend to prepare the partition(s) with gparted;
-the small cli-installer is in english;
-its defaults are correct except for the use of os-prober, although deselected in the detection of other OS for GRUB;
-after the installation and the first reboot (we are back in tty1), a system update is mandatory. If a new kernel was installed, another reboot is necessary.

-debian requires for dk

libxcb-randr0-dev libxcb-util-dev libxcb-icccm4-dev libxcb-cursor-dev libxcb-keysyms1-dev sxhkd

-I had the premonition to set up sudo

root
password:
usermod -aG sudo username

-for the dk installation, the easiest way is then to clone the above @natemaia repo into the nox

git clone https://bitbucket.org/natemaia/dk.git

I then installed thunar; mousepad; xfce4-terminal; lxappearance; feh; xinit; rofi; polybar to work with.
Done.


mkti0H6t.png

pN33uV0t.png k59v0LGt.png  2y38lswt.png  qIOSPa1t.png

Edit

unklar wrote:

-I had the premonition to set up sudo

you could also use doas or now opendoas as a tool in siduction. I have not thought about it.  sad

Last edited by unklar (2023-09-01 17:35:12)

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#2096 2023-09-01 16:50:16

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Interesting!

/Martin


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prove their worth by hitting back."
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#2097 2023-09-02 01:27:08

hhh
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@unklar, and your review? How complete is it, how's the workflow, stability, RAM usage, bugs etc...


No, he can't sleep on the floor. What do you think I'm yelling for?!!!

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#2098 2023-09-02 14:18:42

unklar
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

hhh wrote:

@unklar, and your review? How complete is it, how's the workflow, stability, RAM usage, bugs etc...

Well, do you mean siduction or dk?

I swear by siduction, have been using it since 2009 (at that time still aptosid). The workflows (rules - you know them) are second nature and I have NEVER experienced a bust (forced reinstall) because I pay attention to what apt tells me.

This NOX has the best quality so far. No errors. As the 'manifest' says, about 1300 packages, which is already a significant improvement over before, where the enormous number of packages always upset me. The team is just too small to take care of everything - see my beloved lxde with openbox, which is no longer in the 'offer'.
This is now my third installation with the cli-installer. I'm still 'yanking' around with it. Really sure sometimes I am not...  But through him I have learned how to use cfdisk.

As for dk, I'm thrilled and still grateful to @cog for giving me the sugar with 'hatchery'.


I play now three days with this installation, today I searched and found a power-menu for rofi. What I haven't figured out yet is how to remove entries in rofi when the program is no longer there.

Cp5zI4Bt.png

As for RAM, it's all not much different, as with others. In short: siduction always brings plenty; dk is frugal!  wink

But what I have already seen as a 'bug'(?), when not used for a long time, the tapte and polybar area display disappears 2-10. It helps to log on -and log off.

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#2099 2023-09-03 03:17:25

hhh
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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

^ Awesome review, thank you. I also started getting deeper into Linux distros with Aptosid. Devil, in particular, seemed like someone who really knew his stuff. His temporary packages when things broke on Debian unstable were amazing.

The only reason I don't run siduction is because I had to leave an aptosid system without updates for like 6 or 7 months, and the timing for Debian development was really bad on my part, so when I went to finally update the system it flat out broke. Even if I knew going in that it was going to break, I don't think I could have worked up an Apollo 13 sequence of steps to get it to boot after that dist-upgrade.

Thankfully, Debian stable is pretty current these days, and you can leave that system alone for seven months without blinking an eye.


No, he can't sleep on the floor. What do you think I'm yelling for?!!!

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#2100 2023-09-06 08:29:55

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I've just downloaded the latest version of Manjaro 23.0 (XFce). I've had problems with earlier versions of Manjaro because it wouldn't find my network card, but this one is working well.

I've also got Siduction 22.1 installed ("Standing on The Shoulders of Giants", the distro's tribute to 30 years of Debian's being in existence) and it's mostly OK except that udisksctl doesn't work. I've made a post to this effect on the Siduction forum but haven't had a reply so far.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-09-06 10:57:13)

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