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Nili · 2023-08-04 19:07:59

DeepDayze wrote:

I disliked GNOME but Cinnamon is like what GNOME should have been, but Plasma is now becoming my daily driver DE these days. Someday maybe a Plasma spin of BL with a theme that matches BL now would be nice if that were to ever happen

Cinnamon, i used early. 2013 it was the last i used Cinnamon. At that time it was little buggy also my old tower was dated and dull. Cinnamon extensions were very good. I have had positive experiences with Mint/Cinnamon that have already remained in memory of good things. I stayed on the forum for a few years, posting from #! OS

Plasma all the way for me as well.

In my opinion BL may remain faithful to Openbox/Tint2, its users are specifically dedicated to this couple.
Users of big DE GNOME/Plasma/Cinnamon/XFCE have it easier with a system like Debian, so they'll do it themselves.

I might be wrong, but i don't think BL resources are enough to manage Plasma due to limited time, or staff not very large, so they're better with Openbox standalone.

Colonel Panic · 2023-08-04 23:11:36

I quite like Cinnamon (I'm using it now), but I can't find a way with it to simply list all the windows I've got open across all workspaces as I can in XFce. The best I've found is to go Ctrl-Alt-Down Arrow to show all the windows in the current workspace, and Ctrl-Alt-Up Arrow to show all the workspaces.

I agree with Nili; I can't see Bunsen having a KDE / Plasma version because of the extra demand on devs.

OpenSUSE; I generally go with Leap because it prioritises stability and reliability at the expense of always having the latest packages, but I've seen Tumbleweed users saying that they haven't had any problems with either stability or reliability. Tumbleweed is still available in a 32-bit version, which Leap isn't.

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Colonel Panic · 2023-08-13 19:50:06

I've also installed Xubuntu 23.04 (from the same cover disk as I installed Fedora 38 from), and the latest beta of AntiX 23.

Xubuntu 23.04 works OK most of the time but it's not 100% stable. I've had a couple of small crashes which I had to send a report back to the devs about (the system automates this so it's fairly easy), so I think the last LTS version of Xubuntu (22.04) is a better bet.

AntiX is working well too. I know it's been criticised here for being ugly and certainly it can look clunky, but it's got an attractive default wallpaper now with the AntiX logo in 3-D brass letters against what looks like a tablet screen background.

I also like the fact that by default in AntiX you can switch between the various window managers from the menu without having to log out first. It doesn't have systemd though, and this may be a drawback for people who prefer it.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-08-13 19:55:45)

hhh · 2023-08-13 23:21:42

^ I'm using a BunsenLabs/Openbox setup on Ubuntu 23.04 with the latest stable mainline kernel (6.4.10). The last two stable kernels (6.4.9 and *.10) have been crash-free on this hardware (Lenovo i3 "el cheapo" Walmart laptop). I can't think of any reason that Xfce is to blame for crashing, not that you implied that. The default GNOME desktop was pretty crash free too, once I upgraded the default kernel, and I had to do that anyway to get my backlight keys to work. Win-win.

Colonel Panic · 2023-08-14 22:39:09

Thanks for replying hhh. I think I had a filesystem problem in Xubuntu, because it showed up when I tried to mount the Xubuntu partition from elsewhere. I got this message;

mount: /mnt/sda8: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda8, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.

I ran e2fsck on it to try and fix it, and so far it's been OK since.

[Edit: I spoke too soon, there was a problem with the screensaver, which was crashing and then making the display flicker on and off. I've since disabled and then deleted it.

It may just be my machine though, so I'm not making a definitive statement about Xubuntu 23.04.]

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Colonel Panic · 2023-08-16 16:34:33

Thanks again DeepDayze for

sudo apt --purge autoremove

which I've just had to use in LegacyOS after I made a frightful mess of LibreOffice.

Update; I've given up with Xubuntu 23.04 now, life's too short. Obviously as always your mileage may vary and I'm not saying anyone else is going or even likely to have the same problem with it as I did with this machine.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-08-16 17:25:13)

Sector11 · 2023-08-17 03:16:47

@ Colonel Panic
I have these:

alias aremv='sudo apt autoremove --purge'
alias saremv='apt autoremove --purge --simulate'
alias remv='sudo apt remove'
alias sremv='apt remove --simulate'
alias prg='sudo apt purge'
alias sprg='apt purge --simulate'

DeepDayze · 2023-08-17 13:39:27

Sector11 wrote:

@ Colonel Panic
I have these:

alias aremv='sudo apt autoremove --purge'
alias saremv='apt autoremove --purge --simulate'
alias remv='sudo apt remove'
alias sremv='apt remove --simulate'
alias prg='sudo apt purge'
alias sprg='apt purge --simulate'

Thanks for those and I'm stealing 'em

DeepDayze · 2023-08-17 13:41:22

Trying out the new MX-23 KDE and it's pretty darn solid on my newish HP Probook 640G2 (old HP Elitebook was failing as lost last 2 USB ports on it)

Sector11 · 2023-08-17 15:17:54

DeepDayze wrote:

Thanks for those and I'm stealing 'em

You're welcome. I am aka; The Tpyo Knig so I use aliases a LOT!

I have this in my ~/,bashrc file

####################
# ALIAS DEFINITIONS & FUNCTIONS
# Thanks to Mark Buck
# You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
# ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
# See /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples in the bash-doc package.
# ↑↑↑ NO LONGER EXISTS ↑↑↑

### My Aliases #####
if [ -f ~/bin/Bash/bash_aliases ]; then
    . ~/bin/Bash/bash_aliases
fi

### My Functions ###
if [ -f ~/bin/Bash/bash_functions ]; then
    . ~/bin/Bash/bash_functions
fi

Those two lines help keep my 'bash' file a lot cleaner.

These are my most used ones:

alias up2='sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade --no-install-recommends && date +%Y·%m·%d%n%T > /media/5/Conky/sysupdated'
alias sup2='sudo apt update && apt upgrade --no-install-recommends --simulate'

alias disup2='sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends && date +%Y·%m·%d%n%T > /media/5/Conky/sysupdated'
alias sdisup2='sudo apt update && apt dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends --simulate'

alias get='sudo apt install --no-install-recommends'
alias getr='sudo apt install'
alias sget='apt install --no-install-recommends --simulate'
alias sgetr='apt install --simulate'

alias rget='sudo apt install --reinstall --no-install-recommends'
alias rgetr='sudo apt install --reinstall'
alias srget='apt install --reinstall --no-install-recommends --simulate'
alias srgetr='apt install --reinstall --simulate'

before you ask why I have:

&& date +%Y·%m·%d%n%T > /media/5/Conky/sysupdated'

Check out the "S YS I N F O" section of my conky.

We now return you to your Distro-Hopping activities.
Sorry for the interruption.

hhh · 2023-08-18 07:18:22

DeepDayze wrote:

Trying out the new MX-23 KDE

I was waiting for one of you to try at least one of the new MX Linux spins. Pretty great?

DeepDayze · 2023-08-18 13:15:30

hhh wrote:

DeepDayze wrote:
Trying out the new MX-23 KDE
I was waiting for one of you to try at least one of the new MX Linux spins. Pretty great?

So far so good, and the MX tools are great.

Colonel Panic · 2023-08-18 14:43:08

I'll bet. I haven't tried the new MX yet but I like what they do with conky (LegacyOS, which is built on AntiX, does something similar).

jeffreyC · 2023-08-18 20:59:57

hhh wrote:

DeepDayze wrote:
Trying out the new MX-23 KDE
I was waiting for one of you to try at least one of the new MX Linux spins. Pretty great?

Pretty great?
In a word; Yes.
I started with the second beta and liked it, it got better on the way to the final release.
I usually wait for the first point release to install but not this time.

Colonel Panic · 2023-08-19 21:01:58

I've just updated Salix 15.0, which is working well but I had to download and install slackpkg to do it as it isn't included in the distro.

I'm also trying the latest version of Nobara, a distro which is based on Fedora 38 and has Steam and other packages installed for a good gaming experience. It uses Gnome as its desktop manager but with a few tweaks to make it look and work more like classic Gnome (which I believe is to its credit).

One odd omission though is that it doesn't come with Thunderbird or any other e-mail client as standard, though it's easy enough to install one.

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Martin · 2023-08-19 21:16:19

Colonel Panic wrote:

One odd omission though is that it doesn't come with Thunderbird or any other e-mail client as standard, though it's easy enough to install one.

I think you are correct and I think it makes sense for experienced users: You get a sane, bare-bones Linux and then you add the programs you like to have.

/Martin

Sector11 · 2023-08-21 02:50:15

Colonel Panic wrote:

I'll bet. I haven't tried the new MX yet but I like what they do with conky (LegacyOS, which is built on AntiX, does something similar).

¿Conky? What do they do with conky?

Colonel Panic · 2023-08-21 09:34:26

Here's a screenshot;

https://distrowatch.com/images/slinks/legacy.png

ceeslans · 2023-08-21 11:21:08

I'm on MX -- but what MX does with conky is nothing spectacular

Last edited by ceeslans (2023-08-22 07:08:45)

Sector11 · 2023-08-22 03:34:52

Colonel Panic wrote:

Here's a screenshot;
https://distrowatch.com/images/slinks/legacy.png

In all honesty I prefer mine, clock (top centre) and day date( bottom right).

But that's the beauty of Linux and Conky you can have them both "your way".

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