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#26 2019-01-05 19:53:42

glittersloth
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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

^ Noted. Honestly, I hadn't even heard of GearBest, but then again, I don't think I've ever bought a new laptop outside the manufacturer's official site before. Sorry for your (non-monetary) loss. Also, I'm sorry, but that bit at the end about the whole order falling apart because of the freebie HDMI cable was kind of hilarious. That and the Hebrew surname you used.   lol

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#27 2019-01-06 09:51:23

ohnonot
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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

glittersloth wrote:

That and the Hebrew surname you used.   lol

i used my real name, but edited the PDF before i put it online.

it's a pity; that particular jumper ezbook 3 (stupid name) ticked (almost) all my boxes - and at that price!

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#28 2019-01-06 12:57:08

glittersloth
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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

^ Aaawww, that's disappointing. I figured you were the type to use a prepaid debit card purchased with cryptocurrency under an alias (all done via multiple encrypted tunnels) and have deliveries sent to a mail forwarding service owned by one of your shell companies sad

Joking aside, it is a pity. I was lurking the day you started the thread, hoping to get a review of what you eventually bought, for future reference.

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#29 2019-01-07 03:08:59

stevep
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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

About accelerated video--I doubt that BL or Debian has it just work out of the box with Intel GPUs; you have to install some va-api packages and have the correct player set up,as well as use the intel driver and not the modesetting one. MX Linux still needs those installs, too. Older machines like the Dells mentioned probably don't support hevc codecs in hardware, either.

I do have working with VLC 3.0.5 in the MX test repo in MX 18, as well as QMPlay2. Since we updated Mesa and the libva packages to support newer hardware OOTB, that broke the va-api in Debian's vlc-3.0.3 we shipped in MX 18.

$ vlc BigBuckBunny_2000hevc.mp4 
VLC media player 3.0.5 Vetinari (revision 3.0.5-1-0-g653c0c1ca8)
[000055cbbe1041a0] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
Could not resolve property : linearGradient4837
Could not resolve property : linearGradient4837
Could not resolve property : linearGradient4837
libva info: VA-API version 1.3.0
libva info: va_getDriverName() returns 0
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_drv_video.so
libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_3
libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
[00007f31f4c05990] avcodec decoder: Using Intel i965 driver for Intel(R) Coffee Lake - 2.2.0 for hardware decoding
QObject::~QObject: Timers cannot be stopped from another thread

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#30 2019-01-07 20:18:58

ohnonot
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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

not sure i'm going to go with debian on a new laptop.

in any case, it's a hardware thing - if the GPU doesn't support decoding HEVC, it doesn't matter which distro/kernel you use - your machine will get very hot and you're much more likely to get stuttering - all depending on how powerful the CPU is.

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#31 2019-02-14 09:14:18

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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

holy crap that support ticket.

150 points which equals to 3 USD to your account.

This had me in stitches. On the note of hardware - I have sold my Latitude and bought a ThinkPad T470. Love it so far, got it cheaper than others due to it having atrocious 1366x768 screen which I am going to replace today as I have ordered a 1080p IPS panel.

I wanted to run Pop_OS on it but I think I miss the simplicity of BL.

And something about its RAM usage at 1.2GB after startup... Nothing beats 248MB from BL.

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#32 2019-02-14 10:00:17

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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

ohnonot, so what became of your laptop quest? BTW Firefox will be using per-domain processes in the future, further increasing its minimum RAM use. So I wouldn't go with a laptop that has or supports less than 16G anymore; I have 8G and running my Windows VM (3G RAM) for my tax software, MS Office and Adobe Acrobat needs will already cause several G of Linux' Firefox to be swapped out (not a big problem because I have a SSD, but still). Add to that a few open PDFs on Linux, a real desktop environment and it's getting scarce. Maybe not entirely ready for 2030.

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#33 2019-02-15 21:33:40

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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

i don't really need a laptop. Want, not need. For me, It's like a 2nd bicycle, really useful and good to have but not essential. so i laid the quest to rest or at least pause.

currently i feel inspired by reports of many (young) people using old, dumb mobile phones instead of smartphones. with the unspoken necessity of owning a not-too-large laptop, i presume.
The unsolvable problem (for me) is that no laptop suitable for typing can be small enough to be as mobile as even the largest phone... sad
So once again I question how exactly i can satisfy my mobile tech needs...

Yes I will pursue this again some time soon, but it will be more along the lines of making a good catch on the 2nd hand market when the opportunity arises...

Another thing is that I have also given up on trying to buy a Librem 5; open hard- and software phones are popping up everywhere now and we will see how all this develops in the near future... maybe Librem 5 v2.0 will be much better, or maybe something even better (and maybe a little cheaper) will pop up...

Owning less computers also means less hacking and less tinkering. I spend too much time already and do not derive too much joy from complex administrative tasks (though i do usually enjoy the outcome).

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#34 2019-02-15 21:50:39

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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

For a feature-rich, small machine with phone capability - I have one of these on order. And it comes with Debian pre-installed smile


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#35 2019-02-15 22:01:40

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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

damo wrote:

I have one of these on order.

and how long has it been?
i've been watching their development for ~2years now... roll

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#36 2019-02-15 22:31:05

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Yeah sad  I keep up with the news though, and it looks like production of the final parts is close to happening.


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#37 2019-02-16 11:15:07

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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

damo wrote:

it looks like production of the final parts is close to happening.

i think i literally read this on one of their websites more than a year ago.
ok, i know i'm being snarky, i'll stop now. good luck with it!
i seriously considered the pyra for a while, but that's just... by the time it comes out most of its components won't be worth sh!t anymore.

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#38 2019-02-16 20:40:33

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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

ohnonot, why don't you grab a second hand beefed up x220/x230 thinkpad? it's 12.5", can come in 1080p and have up to 16gb of ram and cost peanuts - £100 for crap grade, £150 for refurb. has got two batteries, one of which can be extended to give you ~10hrs of uptime.

honestly I'm now a ThinkPad fanboy!

edit: also, these are super duper customisable. I have already replaced screen in mine.

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#39 2019-02-16 21:27:57

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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

cherkie wrote:

ohnonot, why don't you grab a second hand beefed up x220/x230 thinkpad?

read the rest of the thread, you will know exactly why.

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#40 2019-02-16 22:37:53

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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

Yeah I read it and still unsure. But since you said you're putting this on backburner this discussion is moot.

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#41 2019-02-17 08:28:01

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Re: Hardware Recommendations for Laptop Please

cherkie wrote:

Yeah I read it and still unsure.

i really don't see why you're unsure. both x220 and x230 were specifically mentioned in this thread and i dismissed them for a very specific reason.
see posts #5, #9 and #30 for context. In one word: video playback.

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