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#2451 2018-12-02 06:54:11

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interesting how a dozen Serbian relations melt down to 3 or 4 different ones in the english translation smile

here in finland there's different words for aunts/uncles on father's or mother's side, hard to get used to for someone who didn't grow up with that distinction.
otoh, the word for niece/nephew is the same. no differentiation between male/female. same with cousins.
but slavic languages differentiate between male and female a lot, even in last names (!), you have to take that into account. half of the entries are basically duplicates.

if i ever marry a Serbian I will remember this site and check it out again.

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#2452 2018-12-02 22:49:10

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My father-in-law always wants to say that his other daughters' husbands are my brothers-in-law. I say they are no relation to me, they are just my sisters-in-laws' husbands.

Tim

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#2453 2018-12-05 12:47:08

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PackRat wrote:
hhh wrote:
Unia wrote:

In Dutch we don't differentiate between mother's father and father's father (or brother, sister, etc) either.

I've heard this is a thing in West Virginia and Mississippi too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw

Like the latino-american soap operas.
They achieve the culmination when Fernando finds out that he is his own mother.

ohnonot wrote:

here in finland there's different words for aunts/uncles on father's or mother's side, hard to get used to for someone who didn't grow up with that distinction.
otoh, the word for niece/nephew is the same. no differentiation between male/female. same with cousins.
but slavic languages differentiate between male and female a lot, even in last names (!), you have to take that into account. half of the entries are basically duplicates.

if i ever marry a Serbian I will remember this site and check it out again.

"interesting how a dozen Serbian relations melt down to 3 or 4 different ones in the english translation smile"
The other way around is fun. big_smile

Interesting point of view, thanks for sharing.
It's not so hard, it's just that there is a culture shock and it needs a little time to overcome and understand.

ohnonot wrote:

if i ever marry a Serbian I will remember this site and check it out again.

Don't lose hope, he will propose. Eventually... smile

ratcheer wrote:

My father-in-law always wants to say that his other daughters' husbands are my brothers-in-law. I say they are no relation to me, they are just my sisters-in-laws' husbands.

Tim

Whenever you say they are in no relation with you, your father-in-law is thinking: "Son, someday all this will belong to your ex wife." smile

They are your pašenogs.
Pashenogs-in-law. smile

Jokes aside, I think they are your co-brothers-in-law.

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#2454 2018-12-05 17:48:41

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pet peeve #13: rent-a-cops.
highschool dropouts that just about manage to finish a 1-year vocational training in addition to working out in the cheapest muscle factory in town. (i just made that up. prove me wrong.)
now they're allowed to wear a vaguely threatening "uniform" and can feel pretty important about themselves, imagining they have some sort of power around the mall, subway station or wherever. which they don't of course, not under normal circumstances.

the actual story:

doing my shopping on a night before a day off, there's this old guy sitting on a bench outside the "hypermarket". he vaguely smelled of alcohol, maybe even piss (which is normal for old people) and didn't bother me at all.
enter 4 (four!) security guys to escort him out.
where's the social conscience of these people?
ok, the old guy maybe was an alcoholic and has been sitting there for too long (whoever defines how long is too long).
ok, they probably have rules that they have to do things in pairs.
but four guys for one old geezer? that's just shameful.

of course he didn't resist and left quietly.

so after the man was gone, they came strutting back and i called them out on it. nothing insulting and agressive, just asking: did you really need to be four to tell one old man to get lost? i did not say "why did he have to leave at all".

the only answer i got was "i can take you one on one if you want to".
i just answered "are you threatening me?" - that's when he realised he made a mistake and started reciting the rulebook.
what the hell is the IQ of these people and what are they getting paid for?
i thought "security" implies de-escalation.

*smh*

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#2455 2018-12-05 19:31:59

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He didn't shoot you at least.

/Martin


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prove their worth by hitting back."
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#2456 2018-12-06 04:53:21

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Maybe those security guys were just entering the mall together before going to there posts? It's also custom to go around in large premises in pairs. It's for their own security but also for security of the client: with two guards around, situation is less likely to escalate, and also that hot headed guard stays calmer, when s/he has that benevolent colleague backing up. If they are both short tempered, their boss, who made their schedule, is incompetent.

I know, what sort of person you mean, though. I can imagine a young bald guy in his black overall holding thumbs under his accessory belt, clinging his handcuffs, feeling inscure but very hard trying to look dangerous and competent. On the other hand, I've also met some vocational students in safety training, and they are usually peaceful and cold blooded.

Martin: you know perfectly well that private security personnel don't carry guns in Nordic countries.

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#2457 2018-12-06 07:13:49

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nore wrote:

Martin: you know perfectly well that private security personnel don't carry guns in Nordic countries.

Yes and our police hardly ever user theirs. It was just a reminder of what could have happened elsewere.

/Martin


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#2458 2018-12-06 10:00:36

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@nore: there were FOUR of them, not two.

I know you probably got used to the sight of them by now (i guess Finland must be the country hit worst by this plague, every supermarket - not mall - has them), but I didn't. Everytime they pass me I feel a strong urge to show them that I will not be intimidated. (i know it's childish. i don't have the problem with real police so much, they are legit.)

Martin wrote:

He didn't shoot you at least.

Thank you for proving my point with this comment.

No, they're not some sort of meta police, they are adorned garbage collectors moving up and down the corridor to create a clean environment for people. Yes, clean. "Safety" is a label plastered on to hide their real purpose.
Because the paying audience fears coming into contact with the dirty underbelly of society.
A random enebriated poor person is not threatening by definition, but that is what people feel threatened by.
They have lost the ability to recognize a real threat. Probably all thanks to said "Security".

Shopping malls are promoted to be "meeting places" to socialise, providing seats and comfy corners. But only to those that also go shopping there and don't smell. The doors are open, but they're not really open are they. That is what "Security" is really there for.

We used to have shopping malls completely without "security". I don't think they were any less secure.

I could now launch an equally long rant on paramilitaristic fetishes and the very real danger of intimidation through uniforms...

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#2459 2018-12-07 14:55:26

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Interview with Adam Curtis: The antidote to civilizational collapse. Worth reading.

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#2460 2018-12-08 08:23:04

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^ +1 for a news website that totally works without any javascript or cross-site requests.
and of course +1 for adam curtis, whose documentaries i have seen.

a classical journalist whose medium happens to be film

the pantomime-isation of politics.
Every morning Donald Trump wakes up in the White House, he tweets something absolutely outrageous which he knows the liberals will get upset by, the liberals read his tweets and go “This is terrible, this is outrageous,” and then tell each other via social media how terrible it all is. It becomes a feedback loop in which they are locked together.
[...]
And it becomes a perpetual, infernal motion system, which is a distraction. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s a distraction from what’s really happening in the world.

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#2461 2018-12-08 14:13:42

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twoion wrote:

Been thinking to pull the trigger on buying a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro headphones for around 120€ (250Ω). My old Sennheiser eh350 are perfectly fine but cost 50€ in 2011 when I bought them; the cushions are due for a replacement and I've already replaced the cable for 15€ each 3 times, so I've paid a lot more for these than I'd like to admit (although they still sound perfectly fine and I use them every day).

The biggest advantage of the DT 770 is that I would've finally own one pair of headphones to use on the train (the EH350 are open headphones like the dt 880 which I would buy for home use only, so no good in that kind of environment); so far I only ever used those earbuds coming with phones/MP3 players and while there are high-end models available, the quality never justified the cost and all of those sound horrible anyway.

My old, worn-out, very good-sounding eh350 headphones with their cheaply built frame:

https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2018/11/19/eh350.th.jpg

Travelled 10s of thousands of miles with them, used them at home and then some. I'll keep them around for the next decades for sure. I see that some sellers ask for 200$ for these nowadays, that's pretty lunatic smile


Received and testet the DT770PRO though I will return them:

1. 250 Ohms do absolutely not work without an extra amplifier (or external DAC+amp, since the builtin one on my laptop has some background static noise and starts to distort sound at max volume). I would have bought an extra amplifier like the Fiio E10K for an extra 80€, but

2. The coiled cable on this thing is a) not detachable, b) heavy as hell, c) not secured as tightly as I wish in the ear cup. Knowing myself, I'd rip it out tomorrow by way of forgetting I had the headphones on or rolling the cable over with my desk chair. A little less important, but the build quality is still disappointing (plastic cups feel cheap, ends of metal arch have plastic tips, also feels and looks cheap).

Even though without driving these to their full potential (no amp), they already sounded better in mid-range pieces (= without much bass) than my current headphones, so these are definitely amazing headphones, but not for me.


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#2462 2018-12-10 22:42:49

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Voyager II has left our solar system. On into the dark forest…


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#2463 2018-12-10 23:30:51

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twoion wrote:

Voyager II has left our solar system. On into the dark forest…

"Rage,rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night."


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#2464 2018-12-11 08:18:26

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...starless and bible black


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#2465 2018-12-11 15:03:52

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V'ger come back some day!


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#2466 2018-12-12 15:32:06

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^ Looking at how we've turned out since, she'll probably be back with that joint shaped planet eating machine (from the TV series) in tow.

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#2467 2018-12-12 16:15:51

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yikes  OMG!    lol  lol  lol  lol  lol  lol

Well done gs, perfect followup.


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#2468 2018-12-13 00:58:46

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glittersloth wrote:

^ Looking at how we've turned out since, she'll probably be back with that joint shaped planet eating machine (from the TV series) in tow.

Pfft... Get real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-DF12DpVk

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#2469 2018-12-13 07:25:02

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twoion wrote:

An alternative to WhatsApp and the original Signal protocol implementation is Signal (duh) by OpenWhisperSystems.

Jimbo_G wrote:

I have managed to get one family group onto Telegram (although I'd rather use Signal) and although they all still use Whatsapp they don't seem to mind having two different apps.

surprise surprise, one of my family members asked me if I (could) use Signal.
Should I? On my nr.1 smartphone?
I mean, I still have to entrust it with all my bloody contacts, not to mention my very own telephone number and probably other info...???
is it really "better" than whatsapp? define "better"?
(i see it's open source, that's definitely a good sign. but so is android...)

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#2470 Today 01:04:14

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For the last twenty years or more of my life, I have literally said "Bah, humbug!" to the holidays. This year feels different, somehow.

Here it is, the most festive thing I've done in 2 decades, the Bunsencycle: Holiday edition.

https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2018/12/15 … 190220.jpg

https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2018/12/15 … 190431.jpg

https://www.reddit.com/r/bikecommuting/ … it-android

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#2471 Today 02:54:45

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^ Festive indeed, big_smile

Didn't @pvsage once rice his bike with leds?


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#2472 Today 03:32:31

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AWESOME hhh, looks great, and people will certainly see you!

And yes damo, you're right, pvsage did do that once.


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#2473 Today 03:48:30

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I was just thinking yesterday about what might have happened to him. Dark thoughts, ugh.

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#2474 Today 04:37:26

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Yea, I hear you hhh, I've had the same thoughts.  sad


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