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#1 2016-08-01 10:17:18

hughparker1
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Naming convention for BunsenLabs

I have installed BunsenLabs on three computers so far and I like BL'S logical and easily updated text file philosophy.

I know the current version of BL is Hydrogen and wondered what will the next version be called.  Also is there any logic in the name, i.e. using the chemical elements from the periodic table?

I understand that Debian 9 will probably be released next year, is that when BL will also release next version?

EDIT: I also wondered if the next version of BL would be UEFI/secure boot compatible, or does that depend on Debian?

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#2 2016-08-01 12:47:08

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Re: Naming convention for BunsenLabs

UEFI booting is likely to depend on Debian.

Release names are elements, as you noticed - straight out of the Lab!  Hydrogen, Helium etc will all be based on the current Debian Stable.

There is work going on atm on a BL upgrade, which will be called Deuterium (a Hydrogen isotope of course wink )


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#3 2016-08-01 13:33:22

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Re: Naming convention for BunsenLabs

^ I personally would take (unstable) isotopes of the element to dedicate them to the ones tracking Sid on Bunsenlabs. My system will from now on to the next stable release be known as "Bunsenlabs 4H" (Quadnium like in the Qbomb).
Is that convenient?

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#4 2016-08-01 17:53:03

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Re: Naming convention for BunsenLabs

Speaking of which, will the main releases of BunsenLabs, go in order of the numbering on the Periodic Table?  Getting to Lithium would be cool...


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#5 2016-08-01 17:55:39

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Re: Naming convention for BunsenLabs

Horizon_Brave wrote:

Speaking of which, will the main releases of BunsenLabs, go in order of the numbering on the Periodic Table?  Getting to Lithium would be cool...

That is the plan

Regarding sid - in the past it was proposed to call it "BL Uranium" wink


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#6 2016-08-01 17:56:22

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Re: Naming convention for BunsenLabs

hughparker1 wrote:

I also wondered if the next version of BL would be UEFI/secure boot compatible, or does that depend on Debian?

BunsenLabs Helium will almost certainly have full automagical UEFI support and might have Secure Boot support.

https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-i … d64-signed


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#7 2016-08-02 02:44:37

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Re: Naming convention for BunsenLabs

There was also a suggestion for a Sid version called "Beaker".
Beaker.png


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#8 2016-08-02 03:17:43

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Re: Naming convention for BunsenLabs

johnraff wrote:

There was also a suggestion for a Sid version called "Beaker".
http://s31.postimg.org/xszz8b8vr/Beaker.png

Ok, the muppets fan in me wants this to actually happen.  lol


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#9 2016-08-02 08:51:49

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Re: Naming convention for BunsenLabs

There have also been suggestions to use Animal for Sid and Beaker for Testing, and changing Testing to crucible (not a Muppet name) during the freeze.  Don't think it'll catch on though.


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#10 2016-08-02 18:31:59

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Re: Naming convention for BunsenLabs

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
hughparker1 wrote:

I also wondered if the next version of BL would be UEFI/secure boot compatible, or does that depend on Debian?

BunsenLabs Helium will almost certainly have full automagical UEFI support and might have Secure Boot support.

https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-i … d64-signed

Thanks for the info and link.  The link indicates 'linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64-signed (4.6.2-2)' may be ok to use with Secure Boot.

I wasn't sure how to read the above kernel version, why does it show 'linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64-signed' then shows (4.6.2-2) immediately afterwards, are these not different versions?

I have an old laptop booting in BIOS mode, with Debian Stretch Xfce which after upgrade today shows following kernel...

hugh@DELL-VOSTRO-DEBIAN:~$ uname -a 
Linux DELL-VOSTRO-DEBIAN 4.6.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.6.4-1 (2016-07-18) x86_64 GNU/Linux
hugh@DELL-VOSTRO-DEBIAN:~$

again I don't know the technical reason why it shows '4.6.0-1-amd64' and '4.6.4-1' on same line. I'm not an expert on Linux but trying to learn as much as I can.

I was curious if the latest Debian testing image supported Secure Boot, so I downloaded the latest stretch ISO ....

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekl … 4/iso-dvd/
debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso     2016-08-01 09:47       3.7G

... and burned to USB.  It did boot in UEFI but ONLY with Secure Boot disabled.  So looks like Secure Boot still to be worked on?

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#11 2016-08-02 18:48:52

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Re: Naming convention for BunsenLabs

hughparker1 wrote:

So looks like Secure Boot still to be worked on?

Looks like it, yes:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=129083

Watch this space smile

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