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#1 2021-11-12 21:49:49

Martin
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Email provider alternatives?

My parents' ISP is messing with them, telling them they will terminate email service.

What alternatives are there beyond gmail and outlook.live?

Bonus points if it works with Thunderbird as that is what my parents (read mother because she is the one on the computer) are used to.

What if one is prepared to pay? I did a quick search for email and privacy and found this list. 1 euro/month isn't that bad but you want someone who does not go belly up or quadruple cost after a year. (The encrypted thing is beyond my parents. That was just a way to find alternatives.)

Any leads?

/Martin

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#2 2021-11-13 00:12:35

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Re: Email provider alternatives?

ProtonMail maybe?
They have been around several years now.
Needs proton-bridge to work with Thunderbird.

https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge

I have not used this, just saw it in my wanderings.

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#3 2021-11-13 05:55:51

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Re: Email provider alternatives?

We use Zoho mail for our BunsenLabs communications, it's been very secure and solid so far (5 years or so now)...

https://www.zoho.com/mail/

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#4 2021-11-13 09:17:17

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Re: Email provider alternatives?

My main concern was that the part is ad-free and has a high security standard.
I have been using it with Claws Mail for over 2 years.

https://posteo.de/en/help/how-do-i-set- … hunderbird

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#5 2021-11-13 10:14:01

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Re: Email provider alternatives?

hhh wrote:

We use Zoho mail for our BunsenLabs communications, it's been very secure and solid so far (5 years or so now)...

https://www.zoho.com/mail/

And I use Zoho myself


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#6 2021-11-13 16:04:53

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Re: Email provider alternatives?

Thanks, both Zoho and Posteo looks good I think. ProtonMail is probably too complicated and costlier than the alternatives.

But since my parents are not into encrypted communication I guess we end up with gmail connected to T-bird. My parents are both in their 90s.

/Martin


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#7 2021-11-13 17:15:44

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Re: Email provider alternatives?

I use FastMail, which is good although you have to pay for it;

https://www.fastmail.com/features/

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#8 2021-11-13 17:42:08

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Re: Email provider alternatives?

Colonel Panic wrote:

I use FastMail, which is good although you have to pay for it;

https://www.fastmail.com/features/

I have been using FastMail for 4 years as well. They don't count as being "privacy-focussed", being in a five-eyes country, but as quite secure. Besides their first-class IMAP/SMTP/DAV power user feature support, their webinterface is the best in the market as far as I can tell (including calendar and contacts management). They are an email-tech focussed company and have been doing well in that regard. No nonse service and the customer support responds in a timely manner as well.

A EU alternative is mailbox.org, which is 1€ in the minimal plan and hosted in Germany as well. Their webmail is based on Open-Xchange however which is inferior to Fastmail, at least it was when I tested it.

(My stance on privacy and email: because encryption between email servers is discretionary although often mandated today, the only private and secure email service is based on end-to-end encrypted email text using PGP, S/MIME or symmetric keys. If your email storage is totally encrypted at rest, the email storage of the guy who is getting your email is probably not, and the metadata from email transactions makes it easy to tie both together.)

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#9 2021-11-13 20:30:04

Martin
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Re: Email provider alternatives?

Thanks.

Keep the alternatives coming. Nothing is decided yet.

/Martin


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#10 2021-11-14 00:05:20

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Re: Email provider alternatives?

I've used zoho for as long as I can remember. My wife reluctantly (because I use it) started using zoho after doing her own investigations a year or 2 back ...

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