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#1151 2020-04-19 08:35:22

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The Decline of Usability
If this is cool or not depends on your point of view. I found this to be the best place to post this.

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#1152 2020-04-20 01:17:32

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^Thanks! I found myself agreeing with most of that. Not sure if it's cool or not either...


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#1153 2020-04-20 02:30:24

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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

IMHO they have destroyed the:

1. - KISS principle and a basic rule:.
2. - If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

So basically ↑↑↑ what John said.


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#1154 2020-04-23 17:31:44

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^^^  Really dislike the hidden scrollbar.

add

export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0 

to etc/environment

8bit


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#1155 2020-04-23 20:28:48

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eight.bit.al wrote:

^^^  Really dislike the hidden scrollbar.

add

export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0 

to etc/environment

8bit

Aha!
I will try that on my work computer (Gnome 3).

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#1156 2020-04-24 01:46:58

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eight.bit.al wrote:

^^^  Really dislike the hidden scrollbar.

add

export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0 

to etc/environment

8bit

YES!!!  I'd hug ya but you know, social distancing and all!

Thank you.


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#1157 2020-04-24 11:56:28

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You're welcome. I can't claim any originality, found it on the Net.

8bit


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#1158 2020-04-24 12:31:40

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eight.bit.al wrote:

You're welcome. I can't claim any originality, found it on the Net.

8bit

Yup, "Cool Random Internet Stuff" told me that.  BUT you shared it.  smile


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#1159 2020-04-25 07:24:07

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eight.bit.al wrote:

I can't claim any originality, found it on the Net.

You mean here? big_smile

I also liked the article; not that I want the UIs from 20 years ago back, but we should stick to common and OS-independent UI paradigms instead of "creating distinct flavours" or whatever braindead design-futzis call it.

In that vein, I present to you:
https://jdan.github.io/98.css/
This is pure CSS, no javascript involved. Amazing!


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#1160 2020-04-25 13:21:39

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ohnonot wrote:
eight.bit.al wrote:

I can't claim any originality, found it on the Net.

You mean here? big_smile

I don't think so. In that thread, the suggestion 'export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0' is placed in ~/.profile

Wherever I got it from suggested to place it in etc/environment; which leads me to think it came from a different source. At the time I was playing with MX Linux and likely came from forum.xfce.org. But I'm not sure = I don't know.  :-)

8bit

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#1161 2020-04-26 10:40:27

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ohnonot wrote:

https://jdan.github.io/98.css/
This is pure CSS, no javascript involved. Amazing!

There's a lot can be done with css - popups and various other animations, not a lick of javascript needed. EG this strip of member photos at the top, with popups on hover: http://www.daihachiryodan.com I wrote that some years ago, but I think modern css allows much more impressive stuff than that.


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#1162 2020-04-30 05:23:44

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^ Nice!
One of them's you Iguess? big_smile

eight.bit.al wrote:

I don't think so. In that thread, the suggestion 'export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0' is placed in ~/.profile

Wherever I got it from suggested to place it in etc/environment; which leads me to think it came from a different source. At the time I was playing with MX Linux and likely came from forum.xfce.org. But I'm not sure = I don't know.  :-)

Sure, I was - only showing off I guess.
Anyhow, there's various valid places where environment variables can be added to the, erm, environment.
Putting it under /etc means it's there for all users.


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#1163 2020-04-30 20:29:30

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Pigeons vs The Internet

Pigeons won the same kind of contest back in 2009. This one was 2017.


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#1164 2020-04-30 20:45:21

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Anaconda wrote:

Pigeons vs The Internet

Pigeons won the same kind of contest back in 2009. This one was 2017.

I did compare container ships with undersea optic cables in this manner some time ago: Container ship loaded with containers stuffed with HDDs vs. fiber-optic cable. Which has the best bit-rate across the Atlantic? Which is most energy efficient?

See you tomorrow :-)

/Martin


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#1165 2020-04-30 22:45:27

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#1166 2020-05-02 07:42:34

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eight.bit.al wrote:

Thank you for mentioning The Machine. It's a point I've been trying to get across in most conversations I had about Covid19, esp. when it comes to comparing economical with survival risks.

PS: I also found this in there big_smile

Anaconda wrote:

Pigeons vs The Internet
Pigeons won the same kind of contest back in 2009. This one was 2017.

It all comes down to the upload speeds in Hereford and the weight of storage media.
Interesting, and I wonder how a 2020 edition would fare.
There's a morale here somewhere about google drive but I cannot find it atm.
BTW, it's terabyte, not terrabyte. sad


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#1167 2020-05-02 21:34:13

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ohnonot wrote:
Anaconda wrote:

Pigeons vs The Internet
Pigeons won the same kind of contest back in 2009. This one was 2017.

It all comes down to the upload speeds in Hereford and the weight of storage media.
Interesting, and I wonder how a 2020 edition would fare.
There's a morale here somewhere about google drive but I cannot find it atm.
BTW, it's terabyte, not terrabyte. sad

It also comes down to distance being a huge factor. If only going from one side of a large metropolitan area to the other, the pigeons would trounce the internet pretty thoroughly. Of course in that geographic scenario a bicycle courier, although not as fast, can carry an order of magnitude greater data than a pigeon.


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#1168 2020-05-02 22:13:52

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ohnonot wrote:

PS: I also found this in there big_smile

I saw that, but I didn't (still don't) know what the meaning of it is.

8bit

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#1169 2020-05-03 09:32:28

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Martin wrote:
Anaconda wrote:

Pigeons vs The Internet

Pigeons won the same kind of contest back in 2009. This one was 2017.

I did compare container ships with undersea optic cables in this manner some time ago: Container ship loaded with containers stuffed with HDDs vs. fiber-optic cable. Which has the best bit-rate across the Atlantic? Which is most energy efficient?

See you tomorrow :-)

/Martin

Sorry for the delay.
Here is a very brief overview of my ship vs. cable comparison for moving data between Asia and the U.S. Sources range from scientific papers to Wikipedia.

Cable:

  • Data rate: 144 Tbits

  • Power consumption: 10 kW

Contaier Ship (Emma Maersk):

  • Load capacity: 14770 TEU

  • Speed: 24/16 knots

  • Fuel consumption: 14/6.6 m³/h

TEU is short for Twenty-foot equivalent units or twenty-foot standard shipping containers with a cargo volume of 33 m³.

The ship's fuel has an energy content of 40 MJ/dm³.

So what is the data carrying capacity of the ship? When I did this it seemed 2 TB was the standard size for 'external' HDDs. I assumed each such HDD including packaging has a volume of 1 dm³. The ship's data carrying capacity is 2 TB x number of HDDs in a container x number of containers on ship:

2 TB * 33000 * 14770 = 974820000 TB

The distance across the Pacific Ocean is 4300 nautical miles. If the ship is steaming at 24 knots it takes 179.2 hours or 645000 seconds to get across. Dividing the data carrying capacity with this number and multiplying with 8 to get bits I end up with ~12090 Tbits.

The ship has almost 84 times higher data rate than the cable!

Latency, on the other hand is horrible at two weeks. Note that I have not tried to factor in how you get data on/off the ship :-)

The cable also wins when energy efficiency is compared. The cable consumes 0.13 nJ/bit while the ship needs 100 times that amount.

/Martin


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#1170 2020-05-28 08:55:10

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Very interesting (I thought). A presentation made by Eric Schmidt's NSCAI (advises US congress on AI) in May 2019.
"Chinese Tech Landscape Overview"
(bunch of slides - add the commentary yourself)
https://epic.org/foia/epic-v-ai-commiss … on-pt9.pdf

NOTE: I'm not endorsing Schmidt's POV or anything here...


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