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#1 2021-06-26 06:04:38

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Bullseye Freeze Timeline

https://release.debian.org/bullseye/freeze_policy.html

We're into the hard freeze now...

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= … ard-Freeze

Full freeze should happen by August 1st, and thence into beauty. (Hee hee, that's a Hannibal Lecter quote monkey )

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#2 2021-06-26 15:04:51

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

Hopefully Bullseye be released by September if not sooner...


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#3 2021-06-27 05:50:24

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

Does that mean BL Beryllium ISOs are expected to be released in August?  What new features can we expect?

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#4 2021-06-27 16:54:08

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

b197rt wrote:

Does that mean BL Beryllium ISOs are expected to be released in August?  What new features can we expect?

I'm pretty sure that Beryllium would be released within weeks after Bullseye as there needs to be work done to finalize things and prepare the release ISO's. If Bullseye gets released in August then Beryllium should follow by September most likely barring any showstoppers.

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#5 2021-06-28 03:36:26

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

@johnraff will give the final say on when it's ready. Until then, we're Debian... It's released when it's ready.

Still, it's important to keep up with the Debian release schedule, and to make everyone aware of it.

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#6 2021-06-28 05:48:00

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

There are a number of odds and ends that need attention under the hood - some more important than others, some fixes for system things that changed Buster > Bullseye and some improvements of long-standing annoyances, eg getting bl-welcome to detect incomplete repo sources (due to offline installs) and offer to fix them.

Then we need the new graphics stack, which is under @hhh's leadership and more complicated than it might sound. Along with new GTK theme(s), openbox theme(s) and wallpaper(s) we'll also need matching colour settings for tint2, conky, dmenu, terminals...

And, who said a new conky design wasn't allowed?

Oh yes, once all that's done (or in parallel more likely) we need to know if any of the many recent improvements to live-build will affect our iso-building configurations.


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#7 2021-06-28 15:29:13

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

@hhh , @ johnraff - That's a lot of work, thank you for putting in all that effort.  On the graphics stack, will the existing themes still be a part of Beryllium or will they be replaced?  I apologize if this all seems like foolish questioning, I'm still new to all of this, I hope you don't mind.

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#8 2021-06-28 23:53:15

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

b197rt wrote:

@hhh , @ johnraff - That's a lot of work, thank you for putting in all that effort.  On the graphics stack, will the existing themes still be a part of Beryllium or will they be replaced?  I apologize if this all seems like foolish questioning, I'm still new to all of this, I hope you don't mind.

There's been no major change to GTK from Buster to Bullseye, as far as I can see. Any new themes should work with the old OS and vice versa. Not exactly your question, and you'd think that would be a given... but no! GTK has been almost broken more than once in the last 5 to 10 years! But not this time. And if Lithium themes get removed in Beryllium, you can still get them from our Git...

https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-themes

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#9 2021-06-29 01:41:02

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

hhh wrote:

...if Lithium themes get removed in Beryllium...

Theme files aren't that big, so I don't think there's any reason we shouldn't ship the Lithium themes along with Beryllium? Right now bunsen-themes Lithium version ships the "Beam" themes from BL Helium (+ a number of others). I think the Hydrogen themes had to be dropped though, for the reasons @hhh mentioned.


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#10 2021-06-29 05:33:12

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

It's about time I set up a Beryllium Theme Git, and have @brontosaurusrex add his wallpapers as well.

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#11 2021-06-29 08:39:49

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

Thanks again you guys, you've made my poor Eee-PC netbook breathe again OOTB.  My design skills aren't that great but if there's a place for feedback on theming I'd be happy to test things out. smile

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#12 2021-07-17 02:43:45

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Re: Bullseye Freeze Timeline

Debian has updated the timeline...

https://release.debian.org/

Key release dates

    [2021-01-12] Transition and (build-)essential Freeze
    [2021-02-12] Soft Freeze
    [2021-03-12] Hard Freeze - for key packages and packages without autopkgtests
    [2021-07-17] Full Freeze
    [2021-07-31] ** tentative date ** bullseye release ** tentative date **

So full freeze is imminent and release is around August first.

No predictions from me on when Beryllium will be ready.

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