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#251 2020-04-04 04:27:13

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Re: covid-19 virus

Palantir! A name with unpleasant resonances. I have the feeling I've read more than what's here, but this anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_ … iry_(2018)


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#252 2020-04-07 00:39:13

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British PM moved to ICU due to worsening COVID-19 infection.


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#253 2020-04-07 11:51:46

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Re: covid-19 virus

Scientists are collaborating across the world to get a picture of the evolution of the virus as it spreads.

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#254 2020-04-07 22:24:57

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My wife JUST told me:

Two scientists here in Argentina just discovered the "complete" DNA strand of the CORVID-19.

YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAWWWW!!!!!!

Will be a bit before I can confirm ... she got it from FaceBook.

Salt people, take it with a grain of salt on a chunk of hope.

EDIT - EDIT - EDIT - EDIT - EDIT - EDIT - EDIT - EDIT

Confirmed by TN News, https://tn.com.ar, the CORVID-19 DNA strand has been discovered.

GREAT NEWS!

See it here in Spanish

Covid-19: el Malbrán logró descifrar el genoma completo

El avance contribuirá a asegurar la calidad de diagnóstico y al desarrollo de una vacuna. Alberto Fernández felicitó a los investigadores.

GUGL:

Covid-19: Malbrán managed to decipher the entire genome

The advance will contribute to ensuring the quality of diagnosis and the development of a vaccine. Alberto Fernández congratulated the investigators.


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#255 2020-04-10 08:24:53

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^ that is great! News - not so much: according to this english language article from March 16.
Apparently deciphering the genome is only one of many steps required to find a vaccine/cure.

Nevertheless, the world is working on this. Good.


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#256 2020-04-10 11:16:29

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Looks like Drivel, Covid-19 is an RNA virus so they cannot have found the complete DNA strand, even in Argentina. In any case the gene sequence has been known since January when the chinese published a draft which was confirmed in February.

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#257 2020-04-10 11:42:47

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#258 2020-04-10 12:14:36

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dbvolvox wrote:

Looks like Drivel, Covid-19 is an RNA virus so they cannot have found the complete DNA strand, even in Argentina. In any case the gene sequence has been known since January when the chinese published a draft which was confirmed in February.

Well, IIRC, reverse transcriptase is used to generate a DNA strand. DNA polymerase produces the duplex.

More sequencing done may help identify variants.


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#259 2020-04-10 13:26:11

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Ummmm let's see:

Spanish team of researchers has sequenced entire genome from COVID-19 patients.  Thank you for the link ohnonot.

Sounds good to me.  And it is a huge "step" in the right direction.

ANOTHER PLUS: My wife's cousin, who has BL on her laptop thanks to you know who, works at the Laboratory of Microbiology at Valencia University Hospital.   tongue


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#260 2020-04-10 14:34:40

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^ Well, at least you spelled COVID right this time. The way you spelled it in the prior post made me think they were gene mapping some sub-species of crow. hmm

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#261 2020-04-10 15:32:21

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glittersloth wrote:

^ Well, at least you spelled COVID right this time. The way you spelled it in the prior post made me think they were gene mapping some sub-species of crow. hmm

Yeah, some reporter on BBC Radio last week kept talking about "Corvid-19" - that far-right crow group I guess. He probably also says "nucular", and "substract".


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#262 2020-04-10 15:34:10

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glittersloth wrote:

^ Well, at least you spelled COVID right this time. The way you spelled it in the prior post made me think they were gene mapping some sub-species of crow. hmm

HAHAHAHAHAHA - WRONG!  That's a copy and paste! I did nor type it or most certainly the Tpyo Knig would have popped in there.

Sub-species of crow indeed... I got a chuckle out of it.

I am a notoriously horrible speller - actually not so much spelling as typing. And this new keyboard with round "typewriter" type keys are a pain in the something I sit on.

I'm getting use to it s·l·o·w·l·y

I really should remember covid because the first time i saw the word "covidiot" it came from one of my sons friends and I though that was a great way to describe some people today.  No "r" there.

BUT that said: COronaVIrus Disease 2019 (COrVID-19) devil

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#263 2020-04-10 18:08:47

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damo wrote:
glittersloth wrote:

^ Well, at least you spelled COVID right this time. The way you spelled it in the prior post made me think they were gene mapping some sub-species of crow. hmm

Yeah, some reporter on BBC Radio last week kept talking about "Corvid-19" - that far-right crow group I guess. He probably also says "nucular", and "substract".

Yup, missed this one.

Maybe it's a far-left wing sub-species of crow group.  big_smile


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#264 2020-04-11 21:28:39

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dbvolvox wrote:

The difficulty in assessing the pandemic progress is the uncertainty regarding the doubling rate. It seems to be highly variable not just country to country but also within country over time. The amount of testing is also variable so the number of mild cases is surely unknown. South Korea has the best testing program and their data shows a short doubling rate to start with that has slowed as measures have been taken. So a 2 day doubling rate can be seen in some situations but a rate of 4-6 days seems a better  number for assessing the longer term progress.

Hi,i will show you the graph when we were at 16,000 infections, if I am not mistaken, calculate that I live in the part of the graph where the curve rises the most, in the Lombardy region.
Now there are another 60,000 infections in my region.
This is taken care of for not having made red areas immediately after discovering cases of covid-19 and for letting the virus circulate 8 days and without restrictive measures, under pressure from owners of that region.
While the minor curves are regions, where they immediately applied the red areas and restrictive measures looking for all the contacts of the positives they identified.


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#265 2020-04-11 21:30:58

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Here still serious situation.
Italian Prime Minister decided to lockdown until May 3
today 614 deaths and almost 4000 new infections.
Only in my region do you double your infections on this day

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in the photo above you understand what it means to let the virus circulate in full pandemic.
America and China will pay a pledge for this, as happened in my region.

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#266 2020-04-11 23:02:38

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^
5day.th.pngcrono_chart.th.jpg

Both charts from 2020-04-02

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#267 2020-04-12 13:00:35

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Thank @eight.bit.al for the graph.

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#268 2020-05-03 10:50:07

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Hello. Hope you are all good in health and keeping safe.

I have been "shielding" for more than a month (i.e. not allowed to go out at all) due to a serious lung condition and being on long term immunosuppressants.

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#269 2020-05-04 00:58:43

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Hi Marianne - that sounds like a pretty dire situation to be in. Please look after yourself!
We're all waiting for COVID treatment drugs and vaccines to be developed, but while all kinds of labs are reporting new drugs coming up, it could easily be another year before there's a vaccine.


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#270 2020-05-04 09:29:34

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Not a virus guy but I do know the current record for vaccine development is held by the Ebola vaccine and that took 5 years. Of course, the effort to find one for the new coronavirus is larger than we've ever seen before but, by the same token, there's nothing new about corona virus development generally. The number of corona virus vaccines out there in the wild has been zero for many years and remains there, sadly.

That there were already huge developments and promising lines of inquiry for corona vaccines generally is the reason we have people talking so optimistically about 12-18 months (although I note that estimate does not shift despite being already two months in since people started keeping track). Derek Lowe of In The Pipeline fame has been keeping track of the major studies and explaining why corona virus' are such jerks to target. If all of them fail, it would appear we're in real trouble because there ain't any new drug candidates and the existing ones aren't looking too likely to magic away the bug on a broad scale.

Long story short, 12-18 months for a vaccine remains very optimistic. Expect optimism to ebb if a few of those studies drop off the radar for whatever reason.

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#271 2020-05-04 18:12:18

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I just saw a report that there seems to be evidence that the BCG innoculation against TB is providing some protection. Possibly because of the way it enhances the immune system.


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#272 2020-05-05 02:56:04

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^How long ago did the UK stop BCG jabs for TB? I remember getting one (or two?) as a kid, and some people have suggested that past use in Japan might be one reason for the apparent low infection rate. But the UK has been hit pretty badly.


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#273 2020-05-05 06:05:17

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To celebrate ShenZen outlawing the cat stir fry we actually adopted one.  They’re pretty good, named the cat “Hot Bread” after a John Wayne flick “The Undefeated”.  We still got our crazy butt dog Molly.


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#274 2020-05-05 06:15:22

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As a side note we think I had the virus before our state had tests.  I broke my rib from coughing as I said from one of my previous posts.  Anyways hope everyone is happy and healthy.  Take care boys.

My brother said they should have renamed it to the costilla virus.

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#275 2020-05-05 09:15:09

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cog wrote:

As a side note we think I had the virus before our state had tests.  I broke my rib from coughing as I said from one of my previous posts.  Anyways hope everyone is happy and healthy.  Take care boys.

My brother said they should have renamed it to the costilla virus.

Well it seems to be coming to light that Covid19 circulated as early as December 2019 in French airport regions; and that China increased imports of medicinal equipment massively in early January while halting exports all the while saying that the virus hadn't got out. I might even go so far as to say that I already had it in early March, but who knows without tests.

I'm also less worried about the direct lethality due to respiratory problems but more about the long-term sequences. There already have been reports about significantly reduced lung capacity, lasting cognitive impairment (from a layman's point of view perhaps due to oxygination issues?) etc.


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