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#126 2016-05-11 01:26:54

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Full-length documentary about Burt Shavitz, co-founder of Burt's Bees:

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#127 2016-05-11 19:29:37

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http://www.space.com/32850-nasa-kepler- … anets.html
Looks like the universe just got a lot less lonely.

Indeed, data gathered by Kepler and other instruments suggest that about 25 percent of all the "normal" (main-sequence) stars in the Milky Way harbor roughly Earth-size planets in their habitable zones, that just-right range of distances at which liquid water can exist on a world's surface.


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#128 2016-05-11 19:58:54

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^ why do they always assume that alien life must be based on the same base elements and environment as ours?
not a rhethorical question!
- is there some scientific theory or even evidence to support this way of thinking, or are they all just to blind to see how anthropocentric their way of thinking is?


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#129 2016-05-11 20:07:23

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^ For a variety of chemical, physical and astronomical reasons, a Carbon+Water-based life form seems to be the most likely. Other types aren't precluded though - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypotheti … ochemistry.

Several alternative types of biochemistry could also arise in various exotic environments on Earth, but none have been found. Yet.


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#130 2016-05-11 20:14:38

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@ohnonot:  So you're suggesting there is an even greater potential for extrasolar life on the assumption that life based on other forms of chemistry can exist in conditions that won't support carbon-based lifeforms?


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#131 2016-05-11 20:26:27

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ohnonot wrote:

why do they always assume that alien life must be based on the same base elements and environment as ours?

It's not that the scientists are assuming that all alien life shares our biochemistry.

The reason is more pragmatic -- the only aliens whose presence we have any likelihood of detecting will be those whose biochemical pathways (and hence signatures) are similar to those with which we are familiar (ie, those found on Earth).

At any rate, we're far more likely to discover extra-terrestrial life forms on Mars or Europa than on an extra-solar planet and once any life is discovered anywhere other than Earth then it's reasonable to assume that life forms exist pretty much everywhere they can.

The real question then is the Fermi Paradox...


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#132 2016-05-11 22:39:52

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I'm with @ohnonot on this one. Anywhere there's liquid anything, could there not in theory be a similar combination of chemicals that could constitute a living organism?

Anyways, I've noticed a lot of chatter on here about Flash lately, and frankly I'm surprised. I've successfully avoided installing Flash for a long time, HTML5 is killing it off. Just out of curiosity, what are you guys using it for?


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#133 2016-05-11 22:44:56

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RE: Life forms

I think the idea is that they think that "intelligent life" (as we know it) has to be a carbon-based life form similar to ours.

Yea right!

Talk about a collective EGO!  roll

RE: Flash

My wife plays flash (.swf) games.


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#134 2016-05-11 22:48:46

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Ah, I don't think we were talking necessarily about intelligent life. That said, these carbon-based lifeforms are hardly that intelligent really lol


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#135 2016-05-11 22:57:20

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Well, they know about other life forms ... so ...

Of course these carbon-based life forms are intelligent, because we say they are.  Maybe there is a life form out there that looks at us the same way we look at an ant colony.

Or the Matrix:  You humans are a virus!


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#136 2016-05-12 03:18:38

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This actually makes the new Lego mindstorms tempting in some ways:

Sauce, Although the idea of needing to give it a constant supply of AA batteries... yeah no. lol


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#137 2016-05-12 05:00:15

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Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The reason is more pragmatic -- the only aliens whose presence we have any likelihood of detecting will be those whose biochemical pathways (and hence signatures) are similar to those with which we are familiar (ie, those found on Earth).

yeah, that makes more sense.
but still... i can't help but notice that these scientists seem to have huge blind spots where their own ego/perception/funding is concerned.

Re Flash: isn't flash still widely in use on those commercial online video/tv sites? aka netflix et.al.?


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#138 2016-05-12 05:07:19

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ohnonot wrote:

Re Flash: isn't flash still widely in use on those commercial online video/tv sites? aka netflix et.al.?

Good question! The proliferation of so-called Smart TVs has helped me out here. Ha, remember when Silverlight was the plugin for choice with these sites? Man alive...


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#139 2016-05-12 05:22:09

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^ so how do you watch online tv? how does a smart tv help get rid of flash? forgive my ignorance...


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#140 2016-05-12 06:12:27

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It's built into the TV. No installation of plugins. To quote frustrating Mac users, it "just works". My remote even has a dedicated Netflix button.


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#141 2016-05-12 06:23:21

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I use Kodi for all that stuff, it has internal plugins for pretty much everything and it all works natively under GNU/Linux.

Of course it's not very l33t but I think it's the best video player around.


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#142 2016-05-12 08:58:17

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ohnonot wrote:

i can't help but notice that these scientists seem to have huge blind spots where their own ego/perception/funding is concerned.

Just a bit over the top, I'd say. I seem to remember there were indeed some good reasons why carbon and water were thought to be pretty important for the kind of complex chemical structures needed for life. (The periodic table of the elements ought to apply everywhere, right?) Just as certain values for interparticle attractions were necessary, with quite a narrow margin. If the universe, or at least our corner of it, wasn't exactly the way it is, all this would have been unnecessary impossible.


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#143 2016-05-12 20:23:52

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johnraff wrote:

Just a bit over the top, I'd say.

agreed. i tend to sometimes...

...but then again:

I seem to remember there were indeed some good reasons why carbon and water were thought to be pretty important for the kind of complex chemical structures needed for life.

maybe it's the perception of what is and what isn't life, which is too narrow.
i know, every other sci-fi movie or book has something about "intelligent gas clouds", but to me it stands to reason. not likely, maybe, but not impossible either.
but yeah, IANAS.


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#144 2016-05-12 23:17:10

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Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I use Kodi for all that stuff, it has internal plugins for pretty much everything and it all works natively under GNU/Linux.

That looks pretty much exactly like what a Smart TV does. Now, if it had Netflix, Quickflix, Presto, Stan support...

-- EDIT
Maybe I should Google that shiz first big_smile

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#145 2016-05-13 02:39:23

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ohnonot wrote:

the perception of what is and what isn't life...

Some questions have not yet been answered.
What is life?
What is conciousness?
What is time?
(others)


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#146 2016-05-29 08:43:15

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http://www.mane6.com/?p=1232
ermahgerd this is starting to look like a real gaem


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#147 2016-05-30 09:49:19

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For any Windows 7 users struggling valiantly against Microsoft's newest distributed botnet and data harvesting operating system, this registry hack will stop the nagware and prevent an inadvertent "upgrade" to W10:

 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx]

"DisableGwx"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]

"DisableOSUpgrade"=dword:00000001

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1 … #c_2876520

EDIT: Also:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=128487

lol

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#148 2016-05-30 18:25:12

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Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

inadvertent "upgrade" to W10

i meant to ask about that.
our work laptop has windows 7 (i think some sort of enterprise edition); how "inadvertent" is this upgrade?
i don't see anything happening, it's still running window 7, it nags about windows 10 but i disabled the notification.
will it start automatically updating at some point? why hasn't it yet?


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#149 2016-05-30 18:48:44

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ohnonot wrote:

our work laptop has windows 7 (i think some sort of enterprise edition); how "inadvertent" is this upgrade?

Microsoft has changed the behaviour of the GWX dialogue box -- clicking the red X symbol now signals that the upgrade is to go ahead, this is contrary to MS' own recommendations to users when dealing with malware popups roll

For an example of what could happen, see this post from forums.debian.net:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=616772#p616772

yikes


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#150 2016-05-30 19:25:07

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^ from that link, reading down a little I see:

They should have named it BorgOS.

lol  and  sad at the same time


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