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#1 2019-02-22 20:09:38

THX1138
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Technology in your wildest fantasies

I was wondering if any of you sort of daydream about where technology
could take us in the future. What sort of technological world will we have in, say, a 100 years? I like to think about augmentation technology, especially how human vanity and
our personal space would change. I can imagine, maybe, people being shrouded in a holographic shield  where, lets say they are walking down the street, you dont see them but their holographic wall around them. like some kind of weird website that you can choose tap into and listen to their music and project onto your own wall.

Or people never leaving their house because it is too dangerous to and people sending their androids to do their work for them, to run errands and work in factories and help fight wars etc and us humans will have fantastic houses and gardens and live tens of lives in one lifetime through the androids we own. I have a lot of daydreams like that but unfortunately not the discipline or knowledge to turn that into stories people would read.

Just wondered if any of you folks also have ideas and daydreams like that?

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#2 2019-02-22 21:06:08

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

THX1138 wrote:

I was wondering if any of you sort of daydream about where technology
could take us in the future. What sort of technological world will we have in, say, a 100 years?

100!  20 years ago I told a lady she should have a phone surgically implanted as she is always on it.

Been on a bus lately? OK, maybe not surgically implanted BUT everyone id plugged in, turned on. Could not live witout being near or on a phone.  Had "beepers" back then.

And don't laugh: How Cell-phone Implants Work

I like to think about augmentation technology, especially how human vanity and
our personal space would change. I can imagine, maybe, people being shrouded in a holographic shield  where, lets say they are walking down the street, you dont see them but their holographic wall around them. like some kind of weird website that you can choose tap into and listen to their music and project onto your own wall.

Interesting, invisible behind a hologram

Or people never leaving their house because it is too dangerous to and people sending their androids to do their work for them, to run errands and work in factories and help fight wars etc and us humans will have fantastic houses and gardens and live tens of lives in one lifetime through the androids we own. I have a lot of daydreams like that but unfortunately not the discipline or knowledge to turn that into stories people would read.

Well you came close to describing the 2009 movie: Surrogates, with Bruce Willis playing; Agent Tom Greer  If you have not seen it - go for it.  Scary stuff!

And there is a Japanese scientist, Hiroshi Ishiguro, that has a look alike android now!

Just wondered if any of you folks also have ideas and daydreams like that?

Dream yea, but I can imagine where we will be in 10 years let alone 100!

Think of the world in 1919 and the change to today would be "unimaginable" to someone living then I would think!


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#3 2019-02-22 21:16:12

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Well you came close to describing the 2009 movie: Surrogates

wow - ok I will actually watch that - I never knew of it before now.
I am sure I will see how my vision could be a scary nightmare
I envisaged humans living like gods while our droids did all
the dirty work

Thanks for commenting, I thought maybe I had ballet danced across a football field
if you know what I mean

Think of the world in 1919 and the change to today would be "unimaginable" to someone living then I would think!

The thing is though, that 50 years ago, or so, I was watching Star trek. they had automated sliding doors, mobile phones, a ton of technology that only now we are realising in the real world. The star trek fantasy is great and so yeah I agree I think at best humans can only see about 50 years ahead of time.

Proof: When I was a little kid growing up in the 1960's I honestly believed, HONESTLY, that by the year 2000 cars would be a thing of the past, we would all have our own helicopter, because thats what the comics told me. By the time I was 20 I realised why that would not be possible, but now, I truly think, again, it may just be possible

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#4 2019-02-22 22:21:39

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

Human brain fully integrated with a powerful A.I.

After that anything is possible.


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#5 2019-02-22 22:34:09

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

↑ ↑ Yes ... SkyLab! ↑ ↑

Terminators!


Stephen Hawking’s final warning for humanity: AI is coming for us
His posthumously published book about our future offers fear and surprising optimism.

And in a lot of ways, I am glad I will not be around that much longer.

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#6 2019-02-22 22:35:46

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

In the 1960s people predicted we'd all be in flying cars now. In the 1970s, they predicted we'd be terraforming Mars.

The current reality: It's 2019 and a software update just bricked your left shoe.

The future: Cyberbrain Sclerosis, baby! Yeehaw!! Narf!!

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#7 2019-02-22 23:04:37

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yikes  Glitter --- luv ya man ... you get me all the time!

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I rest my case!  In my day parents taught us how to tie shoes!

And the bank wants me to download their "APP"
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH!


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#8 2019-02-22 23:06:12

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

glittersloth wrote:

In the 1960s people predicted we'd all be in flying cars now. In the 1970s, they predicted we'd be terraforming Mars.

The current reality: It's 2019 and a software update just bricked your left shoe.

The future: Cyberbrain Sclerosis, baby! Yeehaw!! Narf!!

LOL, you cynic hahahaha

edited in later:::: Actually, glittersloth, I didnt realise how funny your comment was till I followed that link
Wuhahahahahah
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#9 2019-02-23 07:44:11

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

Microsoft promised me this in 2005.
Why can't I still draw 3D in thin air with light pen in class?

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#10 2019-02-23 09:48:32

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

THX1138 wrote:

I was wondering if any of you sort of daydream about where technology
could take us in the future.

well yes, i read sci-fi novels, watch sci-fi films...
tbh i'm not that concerned about how it really turns out evtl.
the past shows that there's a 50/50 chance of getting it right/wrong, or getting the timescale wrong. or getting the size of portable devices wrong, that's funny in certain sci-fi films.

i like what they make up in the stories, i especially like when the author is attentive to how it affects people's minds and society as a whole.

in reality, i'm neither utopian nor dystopian about these things.
i like what is available now.
history also shows that technological nostalgia will always play an important role. real books instead of computer files, black and white instead of colour, oil paintings instead of inkscape, etc. maybe a few years from now it will be "i still prefer smartphones to implants".

the only thing that gets me pumped about the (very near) future are opensource smartphones.

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#11 2019-02-23 15:52:50

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

Privacy
There will have to be a phase with clear definition on what can call home (or can call security/medics). Also can things be made unhackable. Otherwise It is hard to see any cyborgian or augmented future.  Stakes will have to became really high for individuals or companies dealing with any kind of personal data or user tracking bs. Good default would be to assume that certain user disagrees with any kind of data sharing. Also various buttons asking me if I agree should be replacement with some sort of global will of the individual, such document could look like:

# Policy
'No'.

Idiocracy
There are pointers that we are actually drifting into idiocracy (I did saw a poster saying that some new phone has 5 cameras the other day). Such state would enable full augmentation (or basically anything), since it doesn't care about any side effects. For example new fetus might have a genetic ability (or disability) to have locked zoom point for easier integration with 3d projections.

This space reserved for point3.

p.s. And yes, I still want a flying car.

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#12 2019-02-23 16:35:44

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

brontosaurusrex wrote:

Privacy
There will have to be a phase with clear definition on what can call home (or can call security/medics). Also can things be made unhackable. Otherwise It is hard to see any cyborgian or augmented future.  Stakes will have to became really high for individuals or companies dealing with any kind of personal data or user tracking bs. Good default would be to assume that certain user disagrees with any kind of data sharing. Also various buttons asking me if I agree should be replacement with some sort of global will of the individual, such document could look like:

# Policy
'No'.

Idiocracy
There are pointers that we are actually drifting into idiocracy (I did saw a poster saying that some new phone has 5 cameras the other day). Such state would enable full augmentation (or basically anything), since it doesn't care about any side effects. For example new fetus might have a genetic ability (or disability) to have locked zoom point for easier integration with 3d projections.

This space reserved for point3.

p.s. And yes, I still want a flying car.

Excellent post -  too true.
I think that digital security may be what defines the first half of the 21st century in terms of technological advancement

For example new fetus might have a genetic ability (or disability) to have locked zoom point for easier integration with 3d projections.

wow, of course, genetics ....


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#13 2019-02-23 17:54:31

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

Not 100 years from now but too soon and not a dream but a nightmare. Or as one colleague put it "the future will give me a headache."

/Martin


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#14 2019-02-23 18:33:52

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^ wow that's a nice video.
reminds me a lot of Idiocracy, which is a very wise movie despite being pretty funny.

and genetically engineered babies ... not sure how big this was in mainstream media, but it has happened already. some chinese guy, and he's in serious trouble now. seriously.

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#15 2019-02-23 18:43:09

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#16 2019-04-04 20:04:56

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

Read the 2006 Hugo-winning novel Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge. It's set in the San Diego area in 2025, and much of the tech he predicted is coming to pass, though the medical nanotech, computers built into clothing, and VR through contact lenses still seems far off to me. But driverless vehicle ridesharing and drone delivery to your GPS location are coming up soon.

I'd like a nice light molecular 3D printer myself. Imagine going on a long backpacking trip carrying only that, and using it each night to print up a degradable tent or hammock, sleeping bag, foodstuffs, etc., using water, the CO2 in the air, and scrap pieces of wood or vegetation as raw materials. We'd still have hipsters insisting on carrying everything needed on the trip as the only "true" backpacking experience, as they roll out their 200 gram sleeping bags and set up their 500 g tents, cooking natural food on their old-fashioned 200g superconductive solar-charged electrical backpacking stoves.

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#17 2019-04-04 20:31:42

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

↑ I reported on that book in our What are you reading right now? thread…I've been devouring Sci-Fi literature for a few years now and I wouldn't know where to start (I'm not too attached to reality, so I daydream/imagine quite a lot)…

Relating to some recent books I've read, but also in general: time, as in perceived, measured, valued, lived.

We now skip time by sleeping. Sleep is limited (lying down long makes you sore, sleeping too much will also mess up your mind). We also get older.

If, by using sleep tanks, dream machines, and suchlike, which slow our aging and keep our mind in good condition, will we be able to skip forward in time without negative side effects? If yes, how much time do you skip? A week, a month, a year, a decade, a century?

Thinking this to the extreme (immortality via mind upload; skipping centuries using e.g. cryogenic sleep), implications become hugely significant.

Hoping to see better times, skip forward fifty years.

Hoping to be able to get healed by future medicine, skip forward a hundred years.

Hoping to see peace, skip forward two hundred years and wake up to a nuclear desert, last of humankind.

This kind of perspective might help solve a lot of problems humanity has right now (fighting for resources, hurrying to leave a mark, …).

But imagine, skipping forward further and further, and you might actually witness humanity decline because it was destined to as a specifies; the curve points down. Or the curve points up, and you witness technological singularity…though I'm more of the pessimistic sort wink

Which is a concept Vernor Vinge has addressed more than one of his books (Marooned in Realtime, the Zones of Thought), by the way. Also in the The Dark Forest and Death's End. And many others.


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#18 2019-04-05 05:56:05

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Re: Technology in your wildest fantasies

twoion wrote:

the curve points down. Or the curve points up, and you witness technological singularity…though I'm more of the pessimistic sort wink

It's been at least 2 decades since I read it, but IIRC correctly Hawking wrote in A Brief History Of Time that as the universe expands everything in it edges closer, exponentially maybe, I don't remember, to a state of chaos. Judging by world events in the last decade, I'm with you on pessimism.

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#19 2019-04-06 04:27:43

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hhh wrote:

Hawking wrote in A Brief History Of Time that as the universe expands everything in it edges closer, exponentially maybe, I don't remember, to a state of chaos. Judging by world events in the last decade, I'm with you on pessimism.

Blinkered?
I'd say Trumpistan is currently accelarating towards that a good deal faster than the rest of the world.

But no, I'm no pessimist there. I believe chaos has always been, is and will always be a significant part of - erm... time.

A recent shower thought about sc-fi predictions coming true:
they (the literary predictions) might influence design and even actual development of technologies.

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#20 2019-04-06 04:46:27

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hhh wrote:

Hawking, chaos

That's inevitable thermodynamical concept of chaos, asymmetry of time. It has nothing to do with fluctuations in temporary, insignificant psychological, political or social network of human minds.

No politics in off topic, please, because politics is always on topic. Without certain amount of chaos, there are no changes, not even for the better. Dictartorships are often the most stable societies, ever wondered why? Vote, if it is possible in your country, that's one way to moderate the chaos. I'm going to vote in parliamentary election today.

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