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MALsPa · 2018-12-03 06:04:36

I don't know if anyone else here is doing this, but I'm still running BunsenLabs Hydrogen (originally installed from the Deuterium iso) on one of my older laptops. It's my slowest computer, and I don't use it much, logging into it only a few times per month, updating the system, running it for a day or so.

I did download Helium, and I have it on a flash drive, but I never got around to installing it -- partly because I already had a very nice Debian Stretch (w/ Openbox) installatin on another laptop, and partly because this Hydrogen/Deuterium installation works fine and serves its purpose.

I haven't customized it all that much. I added DoubleCommander to use instead of Thunar, and made a few other changes here and there, like going outside of the repos for Pale Moon and then Firefox 63 to use instead of Firefox ESR. Customized the desktop and the menu a little bit.

My sources.list file is set up as follows:

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian jessie main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free

My /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list file still has the following, but I don't know if there's anything coming down the pipe from here anymore:

deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen main

Anyway, just wanted to mention that I'm doing this, and that this has been a very solid release for me. Not sure how long I'll keep it; I'm thinking that I'll hang with it at least until Lithium gets finalized, then decide what to do at that point.

hhh · 2018-12-04 01:20:34

Thanks for the feedback!

You can run that system til the end of support for jessie LTS at the end of June, 2020...

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Jessie

MALsPa · 2018-12-04 03:17:50

Thanks. Does it matter if I comment out the bunsen-hydrogen part or not?

hhh · 2018-12-04 04:22:05

Leave it enabled and report any issues that arise. Thanks, you're now a tester!

MALsPa · 2019-04-02 16:09:14

Should I still be using the following line?

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free

I get error messages today when I run sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade unless I comment that line out in sources.list. 404 Not Found, etc.

hhh · 2019-04-02 16:45:35

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using

Is that line in hydrogen by default? Anyway, if it's giving you problems, delete it and sudo apt update. Check your sources and adjust them as follows. /etc/apt/sources.list...

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list...

deb https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian hydrogen main

Note, that last source will mostly likely never see any updates, unless someone reports a critical bug in our scripts.

MALsPa · 2019-04-02 17:11:03

hhh wrote:

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using

Thanks. Weak search attempt on my part, obviously.

hhh · 2019-04-02 17:25:05

No worries. jessie-updates was a security channel when jessie was stable, I think, but it is now obsolete in the LTS scheme of things. Stretch has a similar source, though.

BTW, this looks daunting, but it's not and I highly recommend it. Upgrade jessie to stretch...

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ … ading.html

Synopsis...

1) Change your sources to the following, or something similar...

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-free

Change /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list too...

deb https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian helium main

Then cross your fingers and toes...

sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

Reboot.

sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade && sudo apt --purge autoremove

Reboot.

MALsPa · 2019-04-03 03:58:13

Thanks, Triple H. Well, I'm gonna try to hang with the Jessie-based Hydrogen/Deuterium until Lithium is released, and then do a fresh installation. This has worked out quite well. I have a Stretch (w/ Openbox) installation and I think I might sit on that one, too. I like this Debian LTS thing.

hhh · 2019-04-03 18:03:14

MALsPa wrote:

Thanks, Triple H. Well, I'm gonna try to hang with the Jessie-based Hydrogen/Deuterium until Lithium is released, and then do a fresh installation. This has worked out quite well. I have a Stretch (w/ Openbox) installation and I think I might sit on that one, too. I like this Debian LTS thing.

It is wonderfully stable isn't it? It also has the advantage of NOT succumbing to the RAM creep that seems to happen with each new release. I've just install the 32 bit Hydrogen CD non-PAE ISO from April of 2016 and the thing is fantastic. 100MB RAM at boot and everything works, including my old Broadcom WiFi driver. And @johnraff's bl-welcome script still works perfectly, it detected that my system could use a PAE kernel and installed it.

I'm going to be upgrading this install to current lithium over this next week and convert it to 64bits. If all goes well, I'll post a thread on it.

Thanks, your posts here made me want to revisit Hydrogen, it's been refreshing!

johnraff · 2019-04-05 07:54:34

hhh wrote:

...your posts here made me want to revisit Hydrogen, it's been refreshing!

Off-Topic, but I agree. Also, try an old CrunchBang system! Everything feels so light.

hhh · 2019-04-05 08:06:58

I installed the 64 bit Hydrogen ISO yesterday, and OOTB it idled the same as my lithium attempts (~280 RAM). Upgrading it to lithium ended up bringing that stat up another hundred, which is getting close to Plasma levels. smile We're doing very well on RAM the way we've been proceeding, IMO.

johnraff · 2019-04-05 08:38:58

It depends on how much RAM you have on the machine, too. On my 1GB laptop Helium starts up using just over 100MB, Lithium around 170MB. My desktop, with 8GB, gets closer to 1GB idle, although a big chunk of that is Dropbox. Even now, however, after several hours of Firefox and Thunderbird, I'm still at 1.8GB.

Last edited by johnraff (2019-05-06 06:25:27)

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