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#1 2018-06-25 15:50:09

earlybird
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Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

As raised here, the juxtaposition of LO Writer and Gnumeric is confusing and not exactly an intuitive choice. Since Calc is in terms of versatility and adoption the superior product, I propose to replace gnumeric with Calc in our base install.

When that happens – if as a change to Helium or in the successor Lithium release – is another question.

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#2 2018-06-25 16:45:00

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Re: Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

I'm for this, I think Lithium is fine for the target to implement it.

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#3 2018-06-25 17:15:33

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Re: Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

I find LO Calc is indeed superior to Gnumeric so why not drop Gnumeric?


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#4 2018-06-25 21:39:25

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Re: Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

how does it compare in size for the .iso?

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#5 2018-06-26 08:19:58

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Re: Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

We need to check how many extra MB of deps calc would bring in, installed without recommends. Unless it's vastly more than gnumeric then I think it would be a good substitution.

Users can already get it easily from the menu, though, so maybe Lithium for the switch?


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#6 2018-06-26 08:22:07

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Re: Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

Perhaps libre stuff could be in post-install?
edit: For example on my machines Libre will come handy only if its a job machine, there is only a slight chance that would be installed on home machine.

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#7 2018-06-26 09:25:17

dolly
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Re: Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

A good idea, for Lithium. smile


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#8 2018-06-26 09:26:55

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Re: Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

brontosaurusrex wrote:

Perhaps libreoffice stuff could be in post-install?

this is a good idea; esp. if the script can take care of & provide options to install the various components, keeping it minimal, instead of the whole effing bundle.

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#9 2018-06-27 06:20:03

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Re: Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

^Isn't this the exact situation we have now?
Except:
LO Writer + minimal dependencies comes by default so people can open .doc files.
Gnumeric comes by default for .xls files.
(I think it's common enough for people to send things as .doc or .xls files, even outside work.)

The office menu will install any individual items from LO without recommends, or the whole thing, recommends and all.

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#10 2018-06-27 14:12:11

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Re: Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

I don't see much support for Gnumeric on here, and I also much prefer LO Calc. If it's not too much bigger then I'd like to see it replace Gnumeric for the base install.

Or only install LO Writer and have the rest of the suite as options in post-install. I have no idea how many people see a spreadsheet program as a must-have in a base install. I personally would install it but I wouldn't necessarily expect it to be installed by default.

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#11 2018-06-28 06:58:40

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Re: Replace gnumeric in base install with LibreOffice Calc

Maybe it's only here in Japan, but people sometimes use .xls files to send information that fits a tabular format - concert playlists or whatever -  so there might be something to be said for out-of-the-box support, just as for .doc files. But let's definitely look at calc as a replacement for gnumeric.


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