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#1 2017-07-06 19:39:18

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Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

So... It has been a while since I've been ventured back into the linux world, but my younger sister is finally open to using linux. Her laptop started having trouble when Windows 8 complained about insufficient ram even at idle.

I'm like "cool", until I thought about windows compatibility and my sister's rather lazy demeanor and wanting everything to work out of the box mentality.

So I'm stuck with choosing the right distro for her. Mind you, she is getting ready to start college. At first, I thought linux mint. It has great community support, looks like windows, but maybe too much bloat. I'm just looking for something that meets the bare necessities for a college student, without all the hand holding. My goal is have her appreciate linux and not despise it.

My priorities:
wireless printer compatibility
libre office (easy fix for MS office needs)
multimedia needs (VLC should cover it for now)
chromium? (stupid simple but privacy focused)

If my memory serves me right, bunsenlabs should still have that lovable post-install script that checks off almost every need for a typical person.

On the flip side, I could be like "whatever, give her the kitchen sink" and install debian mint or ubuntu.

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#2 2017-07-06 19:48:49

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

Debian stretch XFCE (or maybe Cinnamon, I think it's worth the extra bloat).


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#3 2017-07-06 20:06:47

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

I hate to say it but Mint would be good with "Mate" for her. (hate to say it because Ubuntu ya know)

OR ... BL, drop tint2 and add lxpanel...  best of both worlds.  A panel she'll be somewhat familar with and OpenBox.
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#4 2017-07-06 20:09:26

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

OH MY!!!  I have accessories I haven't used in .... time to cleanup some bloat.


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#5 2017-07-06 20:10:46

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

...my sister's rather lazy demeanor and wanting everything to work out of the box mentality.

"Bloat" is a necessity in that case. Another vote for Mint Mate from me (cos I don't like gnome or xfce) smile


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#6 2017-07-06 21:01:39

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

LM Mate "Sarah"

How long have you been using LM Mate damo?


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#7 2017-07-06 21:17:45

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

damo wrote:

...my sister's rather lazy demeanor and wanting everything to work out of the box mentality.

"Bloat" is a necessity in that case. Another vote for Mint Mate from me (cos I don't like gnome or xfce) smile

Yes, that is what I was thinking just after reading the thread title. Beginners need bloat.

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#8 2017-07-06 21:30:51

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Sector11 wrote:

LM Mate "Sarah"

How long have you been using LM Mate damo?

I used it on my new optimus laptop (and bunsenified it with OB etc), because it was the only distro I tried that worked OOTB with my graphics requirements. Only long enough to get BL working the way I wanted though! It sits on /dev/sda2, and is last in the boot order now, after 3 BL's in various stages of development wink

I do like many of the many of the utilities though, and caja is a pretty good filemanager.


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#9 2017-07-06 22:28:50

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

OH I thought you were still using it.  smile


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#10 2017-07-06 23:09:05

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

I've been experimenting with  intro-distros for several friends who are also interested in getting "into Linux."

My three picks:
1. Mint XFCE
2. Xubuntu
3. MX-16


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#11 2017-07-07 07:12:55

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

I had same issue with my sister and decided to try with Elementary OS. Worked well OOTB and the App store helps a lot with "I need a program for X" problems.

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#12 2017-07-07 21:06:38

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

MX-16 is thoroughly excellent and they have a range of "helper" applications, including an NVIDIA installation script that is actually sensible  yikes

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#13 2017-07-08 22:54:42

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

Well, tell her that linux is a bit different and install TempleOS.

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Ok, just kidding, however I've got a tip: Whatever you install, ask her if there is anything she does not like on the desktop and customize it in a way that she likes it (e.g. install a dock or change the taskbar position, etc.).

Oh, and one more thing: I guess it's true to say that Chromium (out-of-the-box) is not privacy focused, so one may not forget the proper extensions.

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#14 2017-07-08 23:11:40

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

May have been established earlier but still

Linux for beginners

Linux without bloat

pick one.


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#15 2017-07-10 13:47:58

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

I just "liberated" two of my friends Laptops and in the end was just letting them pick from one of the following via screenshot

1. MX-16
2. LM Mate
3. Stretch Mate
4. Stretch XFCE

One was up for MX-16 and never complained about anything not working by now and the other voted for Debian 9 with Mate  and had totally fallen in love ever since she got hands on it.

I recommend FF over Chrom/Chromium for given security aspects and the ease of migrating the whole profile from one machine to another which is a big plus when it comes linux newbies trying to get around with the "new stuff"

I personally think that XFCE brings in enough bloat for anyone to get stuff up and running and would even prefer lxde but people as I found out like being surprised by the extra "shiny bling" mate/cinnamon/KDE have to offer, which is also setting ground for a positive user experience. :-D (could have mentioned gnome here too but i think won`t fit because the gnome shell is too much of a totally different approach on it than the standard "panel and self-populating menu" stuff people are used to using M$)

And may I suggest another emotional thing too:
Choose one YOU are familiar with so it will be easy for you to help her in case of trouble occurring. The best thing about linux is the community and if you wan`t her to make the transition you will have to be her guide into it.


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#16 2017-07-10 13:52:52

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Re: Linux Recommendation for Beginners - without bloat...

Bunsenlabs and install the lxde desktop environment as an X session.

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