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#101 2019-04-29 20:21:54

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

^ ah, kuketz-blog.de!
many many good articles there.
has helped me make my android phone safer, twice.
I also started posting on the forums there.


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#102 2019-04-30 16:58:21

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

Just got Pale Moon v28.5.0. I'm delighted with every upgrade of this browser.
I still don't use any addons, except hosts blocker.


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#103 2019-05-06 16:36:11

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

Using Firefox with uMatrix. Love uMatrix.

But doesn't work, disappeared from my browser!!! Alternatives? Pure hosts blocking?

I don't wanna "migrate" to Chrome webkit if possible...


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edit:  https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 089#p86089


this solved our problem.
thx !

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#104 2019-05-06 21:30:28

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

Out of curiosity, has anyone here revisited Epiphany (or Gnome Web as it's known now) recently?

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#105 2019-05-07 04:43:19

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

^ is it compatible with firefox or chrom/e/ium addons? or does it have something like umatrix?

i'd love to use one of those lighter alternatives closer to the linux universe, but being unable to selectively dis/enable javascript & 3rd party requests is a must for me, and so far none of those have that feature.


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#106 2019-05-07 05:11:27

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

^^&^epiphany-browser in Debian. Webkit-based apparently. Curious to hear any user reports.


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#107 2019-05-07 13:52:05

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

ohnonot wrote:

^ is it compatible with firefox or chrom/e/ium addons? or does it have something like umatrix?

I've not used it. That's why I asked the question. Afaict, there's no support for Firefug or Croak add-ons. From what I've read, they seem to want to get a small set of web-extensions going, but I've no idea on the progress.


ohnonot wrote:

i'd love to use one of those lighter alternatives closer to the linux universe, but being unable to selectively dis/enable javascript & 3rd party requests is a must for me, and so far none of those have that feature.

According to the vegan scriptures and this muppet, you can get decent ad/miner/tracker-blocking, but as you've stated, a Javascript handler (or at least some robust element blocking] seems to be missing.

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#108 2019-05-07 15:12:17

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

@G-Slitha'  ma' Nitha', I just tried Web/epiphany. Rendered video playback choppy like it was buffering on both youtube and vimeo. Everything else was nice, except for the noted sparseness of features. adblocking worked fine.

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#109 2019-05-07 15:57:51

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

ublock origin is the best for firefox addons imo.

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#110 2019-05-09 23:25:13

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

I wouldn't be without One Tab now in Firefox (or Chrome). It's a real boon to those of us with lower specced computers;

"Whenever you find yourself with too many tabs, click the OneTab icon to convert all of your tabs into a list. When you need to access the tabs again, you can either restore them individually or all at once."

https://www.one-tab.com/

Also, if you have a page with a lot of images on it, and want to save them all but don't want to go to the trouble of clicking on them all individually and then saving them, there's a browser extension called Download All Images;

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefo … extension/

There is another way of doing the same thing, an online application called Image Cyborg;

https://imagecyborg.com/

I'd also mention Tabliss, which displays an often pretty picture whenever you open a new tab.

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#111 2019-05-10 06:02:27

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

^ Tabliss is really nice!
One rainy sunday I will grab the javascript from there and make my own local startpage to display random images from my image folders.
but for now, unsplash is nice enough.

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#112 2019-09-03 08:11:43

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

If (like me!) anyone has trouble wasting time on certain sites when they've got things to get on with, there's an interesting add-on called deprocrastination which I'm trying out now. It allows you to set a length of time for which you won't be able to access any of a list of sites which you nominate;

https://www.deprocrastination.co/home

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#113 2019-10-17 14:43:24

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

Ever since the death of Vimperator, I've been using Vimium on Firefox. Not completely satisfied, but content enough. There have been times I've missed Vimperator's extensibility, which led me to discover Tridactyl a couple of years ago. Was quite raw and buggy back then, but has supposedly come a long way. Anyone here tried it recently?

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#114 2021-04-18 09:53:13

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

If you use addons that block javascript, ads and other 3rd party requests, you probably have experienced something like this: Unusable!
So,  do you allow javascript and cookies until you can read the article? That's what they want you to do!

Or you can use Element Blocker - it will simply hide/remove these elements from the rendered document.
A little cumbersome to use, but it remembers blocked elements, and it remembers them site-wide.
Above example, after removing lots of stuff (you have full control over what you want to remove and what not).
There's several such addons, you can read more in this article.

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#115 2021-04-19 00:46:07

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

You dudes are more sophisticated than me. I use firefox-esr on bullseye and my only Add-on is Adblock Plus.

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#116 2021-04-19 04:41:59

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

ohnonot wrote:

If you use addons that block javascript, ads and other 3rd party requests, you probably have experienced something like this:
https://dt.iki.fi/stuff/blog/ff-element-blocker-off.t.png
Unusable!
So,  do you allow javascript and cookies until you can read the article? That's what they want you to do!

With respect to cookies, I don't really see anything to worry about. It's very easy to set Firefox to delete all cookies at the end of each session, keeping only those of sites you've specifically whitelisted. So just merrily agree to cookies all the time, knowing they'll be gone at the end of the session. The only drawback is that of course sites always think you're on your first visit and put up that popup every time - but clicking "agree" is no more irksome than using a zapper. Is there some issue I haven't thought of with allowing session-only cookies?

Or you can use Element Blocker - it will simply hide/remove these elements from the rendered document.
A little cumbersome to use, but it remembers blocked elements, and it remembers them site-wide.
Above example, after removing lots of stuff (you have full control over what you want to remove and what not):
https://dt.iki.fi/stuff/blog/ff-element-blocker-on.t.png
There's several such addons, you can read more in this article.

Blockers are still useful and thanks for the links. Element Blocker's ability to remember sitewise sounds very nice and I think I'll give it a try.

Ublock origin - which many people will already have - comes with an "element zapper" available from the toolbar icon which works well, but you have to use it each time. I haven't yet explored what the "element picker" is useful for though.

@hhh I recommend trying Ublock Origin instead of Adblock Plus. It's lightweight, effective, needs no configuration and (in my experience) hardly ever interferes with browsing to the point that it has to be disabled.


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#117 2021-04-19 07:00:33

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

+1 for ublock origin (using chrome). I'am the other way around, don't know what zapper is, picker is something to pick&ban certain elements from webpages forever! Also I'am using this.

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#118 2021-04-19 07:02:30

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

@johnraff
Cookie tech is constantly evolving though. I'm not expert, but I'd wager there's probably some new superdupercockroachcookies in the wild, latching on to caches and possibly even sniffing your/home. Remember, FF on Linux isn't sandboxed unless you've firejail'd it. Always better to default-deny as many 3rd-party scripts/frames as you can.

@ohnonot
As john stated, doesn't uBlock Origin's element blocking (zapper for temporary, picker for permanent) block those?

@hhh
I could be wrong, but I think Adblock Plus is now owned by an adtech firm. Either way, just use uBO. Don't argue with us!! Look at it this way - Adblock Plus is a David Carradine, while uBO's the Rabbit of Caerbannog. Latter is lighter, faster, more attractive and doesn't overdose.

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#119 2021-04-19 08:46:18

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

johnraff wrote:

With respect to cookies, I don't really see anything to worry about. It's very easy to set Firefox to delete all cookies at the end of each session, keeping only those of sites you've specifically whitelisted.

Due to age-weak computers, I had generally set up this setting in the settings of FF. This helps to make surfing smoother.  smile

johnraff wrote:

Ublock origin - which many people will already have - comes with an "element zapper" available from the toolbar icon which works well, but you have to use it each time. I haven't yet explored what the "element picker" is useful for though.

I'm not sure which picker you mean. There are two.
Screenshot_20210419_101743.th.png

Both are activated by left-clicking and turn into a crosshair. Moving this cross changes the size of the element to be selected.

Left the "Element Removal Mode" removes the element immediately in the session with FF when left clicked again. It reappears in a new session.

Right the "Element Selection Mode" asks after renewed left click in a new window, what one intends to do with the element. "Create" removes the element permanently also for following sessions, because it is entered under "My filters" in the settings of uBlock.
Screenshot_20210419_102056.th.png

@glittersloth, thank you for the information.  smile

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#120 2021-04-19 23:47:11

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

glittersloth wrote:

@hhh
I could be wrong, but I think Adblock Plus is now owned by an adtech firm. Either way, just use uBO. Don't argue with us!! Look at it this way - Adblock Plus is a David Carradine, while uBO's the Rabbit of Caerbannog. Latter is lighter, faster, more attractive and doesn't overdose.

I've used both and I think I just forgot which one was for cool kids when I got this newer old laptop. I'll switch to uBlock now.

Did Carradine overdose? The lurid press was that the police found him auto-eroticaaly-asphyxiated in a hotel-room closet in freaking Bangkok. I'm surprised it didn't end up in that sequel to The Hangover. Irony, the film he was there for was titled "Stretch". I'm sure the belt did after a while.

Gawd, that's a horrible joke. Sorry, ohnonot.

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#121 2021-04-20 04:34:19

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

johnraff wrote:

With respect to cookies, I don't really see anything to worry about.

Well I do, for reasons others pointed out already.
And in any case, the obnoxious behaviour shown in my screenshot depends on javascript, not cookies. In other words, if I allow cookies but keep javascript disabled, I'm still seeing the humungous cookie pop-up.
Generally speaking, javascript is a bigger problem than cookies.
And that happens on all those stackexchange,-overflow, ask*buntu sites etc.

@all: thanks for confirming that uBlock origin is the way to go (for those that do not prefer uMatrix *) and that it has the functionality discussed built in.

* which, sadly, isn't developed anymore - isn't there a fork?


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#122 2021-04-20 07:42:46

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

uBlock´d again, thanks for the reminder.


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#123 2021-04-20 19:59:34

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

2021 update for my Firefox:

ublock origin
dark reader (now absolutely essential)
stylus (mostly replaced by dark reader)
greasemonkey (useful on 1 often frequented website)
cookie autodelete
multiaccount containers (absolutely essential)
linkgopher
https everywhere

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#124 2021-04-21 06:36:36

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

(Don't forget, I was talking about session-only cookies.)

ohnonot wrote:
johnraff wrote:

With respect to cookies, I don't really see anything to worry about.

Well I do, for reasons others pointed out already.

I guess you mean:

glittersloth wrote:

I'd wager there's probably some new superdupercockroachcookies in the wild, latching on to caches and possibly even sniffing your/home.

V10ckEw.gif
OK, @both what cookie policy are you recommending?
Some sites will just fail to work if they aren't allowed to set cookies, so at least temporary acceptance seems unavoidable.
Maybe:

twoion wrote:

cookie autodelete

this extension might improve security. I'll give it a try.


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#125 2021-04-21 08:29:01

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Re: What browser addons do You use?

johnraff wrote:

OK, @both what cookie policy are you recommending?
Some sites will just fail to work if they aren't allowed to set cookies, so at least temporary acceptance seems unavoidable.

I'm not @both but I'll attempt to answer anyway. Hope you don't mind, @both =P

Usually (but not always) those first-party cookies are per-session and can be accepted without much issue, provided you make sure they're wiped upon close (eg: FF prefs or cookie autodelete). Also, in some instances where you don't physically click 'accept' in that pop-out/fade-in dialog and just burn it with uBlock Origin's element zapper/picker, FF won't accept the cookies.

One of the beauties of uMatrix that most of its users will miss (or eventually miss once Mozilla changes something that prevents from working anymore) is its ability to block at two levels; (a)domains/sub-domains and (b)request types (meaning cookies, images, etc), so you can technically allow a third-party sub-domain without the cookies it brings with it.

What you'd need to do (bare minimum) on Firefox (without uMatrix) is to;
1. Make sure First Party Isolation is active - in about:config privacy.firstparty.isolate = true
2. Set Firefox to delete cookies upon close.
3. Learn to use uBlock Origin in Medium Mode.

Beyond that, you can turn up Firefox's Tracking Prevention to Strict in Preferences (optional if you use uBO in Medium Mode, but adds another layer). There's also additional extensions that delete cookies on a per-tab basis, intercept/spoof CDN injections (which could contain tracking pixels that work in tandem with certain cookies), containerize sessions, protect window/tab name (which FF88 will do stock, iirc) block Etag tracking, spoof user-agent/font/resolution, etc, but that's not in the realm of cookies anymore (but many are interconnected when it comes to colonoscoping you). Just bear in mind that the more extensions you install, the more unique your browser fingerprint will be, and the more you'll need to backtrack on if you can't get a certain site to work like you want.

EdiT:
I remembered to copy the post before hitting Submit this time. In yer face, evil BL timeout!!
Gonna have a Guinness to celebrate this life-affirming accomplishment tonight.

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