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#6476 2021-04-09 08:13:59

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

And another one about being high:
Too High
from Stevie Wonder's 1973 Innervisions


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#6477 2021-04-09 08:31:26

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

johnraff wrote:

And another one about being high:
Too High
from Stevie Wonder's 1973 Innervisions

Got the Innervisions album playing here as we speak!

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#6478 2021-04-09 20:02:01

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Not sure, but I think a lot of folks here might appreciate this -

Music for Programming
https://musicforprogramming.net/


"A graphic representation of data abstracted from the banks of every computer in the human system. Unthinkable complexity. Lines of light ranged in the nonspace of the mind, clusters and constellations of data. Like city lights, receding."

- William Gibson

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#6479 2021-04-09 23:10:07

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

@John, C/F, C major over F major, means a C major chord as additional harmony over an F major chord, so the chord notes from bottom to top are F A C C E G, so you see that creates some pleasant dissonances, F and G and especially E and F. G over C is the same, V over I... C E G G B D, you get the C and D whole step and the B and C half step. Yes, their major 9th chords on their own (F A C E G and C E G B D) but it means the soloist can use notes from both chords. It's when you start mixing up major over minor or augmented over major, etc... or D flat over C instead of F over C that you start getting some unique sounding chords and the options really start opening up. The Hendrix chord is essentially this but notated differently, the dominant 7 ♯9 chord, it's still just mashing scales together. C, E, B flat, D sharp. Both a major and a minor third in the same chord (think of D sharp as E flat, it's the same pitch in tempered tuning, so C, E flat, E, G, B flat). Yowza. So you can use notes from the C blues scale or C major, so both B and B flat and E and E flat (D sharp).

Robben Ford band (live). Some great guitar playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRil3JBW35c

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#6480 2021-04-10 00:55:28

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

@John, it should be said that the album Inner Visions by Stevie was in the middle of one of the most remarkable studio album runs in recorded music history. Talking Book in '72, Inner Visions in '73, Songs in the Key of Life in '76 and Hotter than July in 1980.

Master Blaster, from Hotter than July...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4n27JuJhXc

@ 8bit, Episode 4 is being rebroadcast on OHM Radio ATM, that's a good episode...

https://soundcloud.com/hhh-orb/kat-skinner-dubucrazyep4

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#6481 2021-04-10 01:25:18

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Sorry for the separate post for the follow up. Big Brother from Talking Book, Living for the City from Inner Visions, Contusion from Songs in the Key of Life, and I Ain't Gonna Stand for It from Hotter Than July.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17JjYrBqrho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghLWjyOOLno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUI95wXggB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmCaPpxs90g

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#6482 2021-04-10 01:39:26

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

@John, Dolby-B noise reduction entered the market in 1968 and was pretty standard for cassettes by 1971 or so. I hated it, it cut way too much treble on the average home stereo of the day, all the way till CDs came out, and especially on boomboxes. If you're in the woods with a fire, just let the music hiss some.

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#6483 2021-04-10 01:47:53

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

m1rr0r5h4d35 wrote:

Not sure, but I think a lot of folks here might appreciate this -
Music for Programming
https://musicforprogramming.net/

Love it!!

Listening to the monumental cacophonic megamix right now, but the individual episodes also sound very nice, going from a couple of quick samples.

Many thanks.


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#6484 2021-04-10 02:00:34

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

m1rr0r5h4d35 wrote:

Not sure, but I think a lot of folks here might appreciate this -

Music for Programming
https://musicforprogramming.net/

I'm confused. Where's the play button? tongue Luke Handsfree, I'm scared.

Ah, here we go, a play button. Lovely...

https://archive.org/details/music_for_p … ssette.mp3

Take note, there are 23 tracks in that link and every track is about an hour long. See you a day from now.

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#6485 2021-04-10 02:12:51

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

hhh wrote:

C/F, C major over F major, means a C major chord as additional harmony over an F major chord, so the chord notes from bottom to top are F A C C E G, so you see that creates some pleasant dissonances...

OK now I was under the impression that C/F just meant a C major chord on top of a single bass note F, rather than a whole F major triad. Either way, the fourth (F here) certainly doesn't belong in a regular major chord, except on top as a sus4, so that bass F really changes things.

I had no idea it was commonly done to superimpose two unrelated whole chords on top of each other. So, in the C/F case, does it mean that the notes in the bottom F triad are all lower in pitch than those of the top C? I shudder even to imagine what it sounds like to mix totally unrelated augmented/minor/suspended/whatever...

But I was wondering how this is regarded musically. Is the bottom F (to go back to C/F) regarded as the root note? So the C E G in the C chord have to be interpreted as if they were part of an F (major or minor?) chord? That would be 5 maj7 9 in this case. It certainly sounds on the guitar like a maj7 with added 9th; but no third (so major/minor undefined). But all that would change if you put in the whole F chord at the bottom.

Anyway,

hhh wrote:

'Peg' chord breakdown, another easy Fagen progression...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVTECr3Tq8o

these minimal 4-note guitar chords are very handy if there's a bass player filling in the bottom. And they're quite ambivalent - depending on the harmonic context the same pattern can mean a quite different chord. Good for jamming of course because they give the soloist more freedom to interpret the situation.


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#6486 2021-04-10 02:17:57

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

hhh wrote:
m1rr0r5h4d35 wrote:

Not sure, but I think a lot of folks here might appreciate this -
Music for Programming
https://musicforprogramming.net/

I'm confused. Where's the play button? tongue Luke Handsfree, I'm scared.
Ah, here we go, a play button. Lovely...
https://archive.org/details/music_for_p … ssette.mp3
Take note, there are 23 tracks in that link and every track is about an hour long. See you a day from now.

But don't miss the megamix - all 61 episodes simultaneously!
http://datashat.net/music_for_programmi … _lives.mp3
That's what I'm listening to right now, and it's not bad at all. cool

EDIT it is a bit long though - some more drastic changes of soundscape wouldn't hurt.

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#6487 2021-04-10 02:20:49

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

hhh wrote:

@John, it should be said that the album Inner Visions by Stevie was in the middle of one of the most remarkable studio album runs in recorded music history. Talking Book in '72, Inner Visions in '73, Songs in the Key of Life in '76 and Hotter than July in 1980.

Really! All great stuff. Amazing that he played most of the instruments himself too.


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#6488 2021-04-10 02:24:42

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

hhh wrote:

Dolby-B noise reduction entered the market in 1968 and was pretty standard for cassettes by 1971 or so. I hated it, it cut way too much treble on the average home stereo of the day...

Agreed, especially with commercial cassettes. Recorded at home on chrome tape with a decent deck you could get a pretty good end result though.


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#6489 2021-04-10 06:43:07

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

hhh wrote:

...D flat over C...

Sort of Spanishy sound. cool

The Hendrix chord is essentially this but notated differently, the dominant 7 ♯9 chord, it's still just mashing scales together. C, E, B flat, D sharp.

So - if you have a whole chord at the bottom - you could write it as E♭/C but all you've really done is added that one extra note, the flat third, so it's just as easily written as C7♯9. (Or C7♭10?)

Noodling some more, with more guitar-comfortable open chord E:
drop the  bass B down to A and E/A sounds pretty much like Amaj7
and Em/A is exactlyalmost  like the common A7+9 used all the time in jazz/blues, different voicing though but still missing the third. Strange how just adding the third near the bottom of the chord makes it sound... warmer. (ie the common E9: E G♯ D F♯ B)

E/D is hard to play open, but eg F♯/E - that sound is also quite common. I'm not sure here if the harmonic base has moved down to E or is still F♯...
The opposite is nice too - keep the base note and drop the top chord a note: E > D/E

So these something-over-something chords are sometimes an alternative way of writing what might otherwise be a very complicated chord, but sometimes not doing anything that special.

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#6490 2021-04-10 21:34:49

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

^ You're understanding it as much as I am. It would be easy for me if I had a keyboard, but just visualizing it is a bit tricky. It's not notated C7flat10 because of music theory. Chords are based on thirds, so it's 1 3 5 7 9 and not 7 10, even though sharp 9 and flat 10 are the same note.

And of course there or only 7 scale degrees, so 8 is basically 1 and 9 is 2, etc... so in the key of C you can smash it down to C(1) D#(augmented 2) E(3) G(5) and B flat(7), and C at the top if you want. Now you can see how the D# and E are creating that massive dissonance in the chord, while B flat and C are also creating a bit of noise, even though the root chord is a happy little C major one, C E G.

I'll break out the fiddle tomorrow and do some noodling around myself. smile

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#6491 2021-04-10 22:10:20

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

@ John, if you want your mind subtly blown away by jazz theory, check out Fagen explaining some of his tunes...

Josie, parts 1 and 2...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWJ11H4TdbI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V65t4GlgOh8

Telling, he says one chord is "a G triad over C, which gives you kind of a G major 9 sort of with no third."

Peg, parts 1 and 2...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP_2r9zbaIY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0UVxZGRwC4

I love the overhead camera shots, you can see his left hand bass. It's almost always fourth progressions, ii-V-1s and circle of fifths, but it's really innovative, you never really know what's coming next.

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#6492 2021-04-11 04:33:57

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

m1rr0r5h4d35 wrote:

Very nice.
Youtube-dl can handle the site, so a simple

mpv https://musicforprogramming.net/

will always give you the newest episode.
The page source code is nice to look at; not a friend of javascript, me, but all of it is first party, human readable, well structured.

Nice music, too (I started with ep.01).

PS: I can clearly see [PLAY] [STOP] buttons in the top right.


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#6493 2021-04-12 01:09:19

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Currently airing on local FM radio in downtown Charleston, SC, DUC Ep21. Here's the soundcloud link...

https://soundcloud.com/hhh-orb/kat-skin … ucrazyep21

And you're right, Al. This is a better show, the variety of genres makes it better than the all dub-reggae Ep22 which comes out in a week...

https://soundcloud.com/hhh-orb/kat-skin … ucrazyep22

Arguably better. Ep22 all dub is a damn good show.The first track is killer, and the other tracks don't hold it back much.

@8bitAl almost had me with "not your most exciting show".

The hell it isn't. There's some amazingly well-produced minimalism in that set. Turn the volume up and the lights down. That might be the most rocking episode I've produced to-date. 12 minutes 40 seconds? And then into the heaviest Black Uhuru dub out there? That stuff's massive.

39 minutes, what the frick is that? One chord! Two chords for the bridge or the chorus or whatever. And again at about 41:30, it's a one chord bass line with some other chords by the guitar and horns. It's pretty minimal. And then it gets better. The production on the track starting at about 52:25 is stellar.

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#6494 2021-04-12 06:21:52

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Missed it! (The first link, before your edit.) Keep forgetting to tune into Ohm at 10 on Monday morning...
Anyway, enjoyed it on Soundcloud, though missed the closing greeting you promised at the start! Did that go out in the broadcast?

And thanks for the Donald Fagen videos, they were quite interesting.

Now listening to 22...

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#6495 2021-04-13 01:05:50

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Re: What are you listening to right now?


If art is how we decorate space, music is how we decorate time.

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#6496 2021-04-13 17:52:16

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

New find for me. Already knew former snooker world champ Steve Davis was a selector and synth-guru with radio show on NTS and live gigs at festivals, but only found out today he's got a band (which also features Mike York who's done work with Coil).

https://theutopiastrong.bandcamp.com/music

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#6497 2021-04-13 18:20:26

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

The Strawbs - You And I (When We Were Young)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJzgGl7VXMw

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#6498 2021-04-14 00:04:27

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

"Jimi Thing" by Dave Matthews, Live at Central Park, September 2003 - https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=hQQur … QQurgC71V0

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#6499 2021-04-14 04:56:30

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

johnraff wrote:

Anyway, enjoyed it on Soundcloud, though missed the closing greeting you promised at the start! Did that go out in the broadcast?

Closing greeting? I can't remember what I posted. Not important, what's on Soundcloud is what aired. Thanks for checking it out!

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#6500 2021-04-14 06:23:31

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^Ah I wasn't paying attention at 46min when the promised greeting duly appeared. smile
Great long first section anyway!


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