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#5976 2020-11-07 10:49:15

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

As if Reagan had been much better...
Fehlfarben - Ein Jahr (Es geht voran)


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#5977 2020-11-08 01:20:44

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Listening to classic rock on "The Coyote" - KIOT 102.5 FM here. I'm listening over-the-air, but here's a link to their site: https://www.coyote1025.com/

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#5978 2020-11-08 01:48:06

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Biden is giving a good speech, but it's still political rhetoric. I tune out after 6 or 7 minutes. He did quote The Bible though. The Byrds quoted it better...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVOJla2vYx8

I'm an atheist, and maybe an anarchist, and I approve of this track. It's tight. Awesome drumming at the end.

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#5979 2020-11-08 18:58:50

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Lennon tribute.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi … s-1073608/

I thought the worst part was Willie's. He struggled to contribute anything meaningful.

Some good covers, all in all.

8bit

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#5980 2020-11-08 20:29:25

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

https://youtu.be/QHPmRJIoc2k?t=448

Classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlMZjvw1nyc

Nightwish - Storytime with Floor. I always liked the cadence of the chorus.


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#5981 2020-11-09 07:52:04

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#5982 2020-11-09 14:36:40

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

"Love's In Need Of Love Today" by Stevie Wonder - https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zdit … ZditPOzJnM

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#5983 2020-11-10 13:28:09

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

"Back Seat Betty" by Miles Davis - https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr73U … r73U_gPIDw

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#5984 2020-11-10 22:42:20

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Bongwater again (sorry)...

A New York band, mostly a duo: Ann Magnuson telling us her dreams and weird stories, and weird guy Kramer plays instruments, collected audio snippets from his answer machine & TV, and analog-mixes it all together in a way that seems impossible without a computer. Often singing together. Although studio work is dominant, they were also a real band, and a good live band; not sure if the rhythm section was changing or remained. And even though a lot of their material is collage, it always comes together as real songs.

bongwater-small.jpg

They split up in 1991 I think.

I have most of their work on cassette tape, but cannot listen to it now, and most of it is unavailable nowadays.

How happy was i to find their (complete) material on YT, in neat playlists!
The albums Too Much Sleep (1989) and The Power of Pussy (1990) as well as 2 compilations that include practically all of their earlier and later material.
Plus a CBGB concert in surprisingly good quality.
Wow! This is better than a movie!

It's difficult to convey my deep fascination with this band. The crazy dreams, told as stories, with suitable accents even, made into musical audio plays by Kramer's samples, and the band always seems to find the right style to go with the message.
If I remember correctly (from some interview) Ann Magnuson used to spend her days sleeping in her NY appartment, record her dreams on tape, and the band would then make them into music.
It's all very verbal, centered around voice and words; if she isn't talking, she's singing with Kramer, or there's (sometimes long) vocal samples. Which doesn't mean the music was secondary.

Or what appears like a real recording of a meeting of a self-help group of women who all had an affair with David Bowie, or possibly still have. The song is nice, too (Talent is a Vampire/talent is a whore/talent is American/always wanting more), but you have to listen to the conversation after.

Titles like Nick Cave Dolls already convey some of the weirdness, and always that particular humor that seems to belong with the independent music scene of the 80s/90s.

The music is always there with the story told. Having listened to this piece of excellent noise a few times over, every part of the music, instruments, style, arrangement, falls into place, the whole thing tells a story: sexed up, hard rock, aroused by violence, guns & guitars, abruptly followed by pain and regret... and it's over after 2 minutes.

Although they're somewhat typical of the 80s/90s "independent" music era, they are always aware of their musical heritage, both in earnest and in parody, in verbal and musical reference. There's quite a few cover versions strewn in, e.g. the Beatles' Julia, Roky Erikson's You don't love me yet (amazing live video complete with children's choir - they knew how to visualise their unique visions, they're a pretty good live band, and Ann Magnuson has a singing voice) and versions of Chris Isaak's Wicked Game and Steppenwolf's The Pusher on their CBGB concert.

But these are just examples. So many funny, sad, sarcastic, honest, loving, desperate, hopeful moments pressed into noisy, melodic, low-budget yet intricate pop/rock/jazz jewels.

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#5985 2020-11-11 01:39:03

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

^A friend lent me a Bongwater cassette many years ago, and I remember liking it, though it didn't make an enormous impression at the time. So much incredible music to listen to...

But, only slightly off-topic for a "listening" thread:

ohnonot wrote:

I have most of their work on cassette tape, but cannot listen to it now, and most of it is totally unavailable nowadays.

I'm in the same situation, with hundreds of casettes, many holding music that would be hard or impossible to track down. And my high-quality TEAC tape deck is dead, presumably of rubber perishing. Modern cassette decks seem inferior, usually with reverse-play that does nothing for the mechanical stability - wow/flutter etc.

Has anyone sucessfully transferred a pile of cassettes to digital? Any hints? Any recommended hardware?


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#5986 2020-11-11 03:14:32

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

johnraff wrote:

^A friend lent me a Bongwater cassette many years ago, and I remember liking it, though it didn't make an enormous impression at the time. So much incredible music to listen to...

But, only slightly off-topic for a "listening" thread:

ohnonot wrote:

I have most of their work on cassette tape, but cannot listen to it now, and most of it is totally unavailable nowadays.

I'm in the same situation, with hundreds of casettes, many holding music that would be hard or impossible to track down. And my high-quality TEAC tape deck is dead, presumably of rubber perishing. Modern cassette decks seem inferior, usually with reverse-play that does nothing for the mechanical stability - wow/flutter etc.

Has anyone sucessfully transferred a pile of cassettes to digital? Any hints? Any recommended hardware?

Earlier this year, I digitized a little over 10 hours of music from cassettes. I don't have access to nice equipment; I'm simply using a Sony CFD-S70 CD/radio/cassette player/recorder connected to the laptop via aux audio cable, recording with Audacity. Of course it's very time-consuming, so I've had to pick and choose which tapes to digitize. Worth the effort in the end, but I have lots more tapes that I'd like to do and I keep putting 'em off because I don't really want to put in the time.

And as has been pointed out, good luck finding quality equipment. Fortunately, this little boombox I have actually does the trick. I bought a second one for whenever the cassette player on the first one gives out. "Things fall apart."

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#5987 2020-11-11 07:22:51

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

johnraff wrote:

my high-quality TEAC tape deck is dead, presumably of rubber perishing.

Same here!
I ordered the rubber bands online from the UK, but it's incredibly difficult to take the thing apart and know where to put them. I hope I can find a YT video...

johnraff wrote:

my high-quality TEAC tape deck is dead, presumably of rubber perishing. Modern cassette decks seem inferior, usually with reverse-play that does nothing for the mechanical stability - wow/flutter etc.

Yes, that's exactly why I bought this tape deck in the first place (20 years ago, but already then they were going out of season)!

As for digitizing, I see no reason why I couldn't hook it up directly to the computer. Different with record players, but no problem here. Not sure about post production; I hope some software allows me to press a key each time a new song starts, to insert chapters into the track, or cut it into songs.

Anyhow, I edited the Bongwater post again (it's also on my blog).

edit: You might want to start with this audiovisual version of You Don't Love Me Yet, Live on Night Music (American TV show).

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#5988 2020-11-13 21:00:19

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Peter Alexander - Ich zähle täglich meine Sorgen…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flhflSGihIs

Freddy Quinn - Hundert Mann und ein Befehl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHLOR-o6TsM

and of course

Freddy Quinn - Junge, komm bald wieder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSYblBKZ75Y


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#5989 2020-11-13 21:06:24

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

johnraff wrote:

Has anyone sucessfully transferred a pile of cassettes to digital? Any hints? Any recommended hardware?

I'm following VWestlife on Youtube, he does a lot of videos on casette decks. There are also videos which have references to analog audio enthusiast communities (predominantly in the US) in their bytext. I think you have to track down the analog guys in their forums smile Usually, if the deck is/was high quality, the mechanism can be restored. If it just stopped moving, you might have to exchange the belts. Because it's mechanical every device is different, but I suppose you can learn it / figure it out quite easily! E.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FJrh0WkFTw


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#5990 2020-11-14 09:06:24

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

johnraff wrote:

Has anyone sucessfully transferred a pile of cassettes to digital? Any hints? Any recommended hardware?

I have and used what was at hands. Old hardware. Did not notice any difference betwen using an Sony Walkman or Yamaha casette deck...

There is lots of used cassetplayers on the market. Often there is possibility to try the machine, both in store and private.

The main factor, is the tape quality. Cheap quality on tapes that is 50-60 years old, have to much noise in them.


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#5991 2020-11-14 09:47:17

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

rbh wrote:
johnraff wrote:

Has anyone sucessfully transferred a pile of cassettes to digital? Any hints? Any recommended hardware?

The main factor, is the tape quality. Cheap quality on tapes that is 50-60 years old, have to much noise in them.

That is of course important. Some of my cassettes are high quality tapes, and recorded on that TEAC deck with the bias nicely adjusted and Dolby on, so the sound was pretty good. But I also have a lot of older lower-quality tapes too, and those tend to be the ones with interesting, obscure music that I wouldn't be able to download from YouTube. Forced to compromise.


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#5992 2020-11-14 11:25:55

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

johnraff wrote:
rbh wrote:

The main factor, is the tape quality. Cheap quality on tapes that is 50-60 years old, have to much noise in them.

That is of course important. Some of my cassettes are high quality tapes, and recorded on that TEAC deck with the bias nicely adjusted and Dolby on, so the sound was pretty good. But I also have a lot of older lower-quality tapes too, and those tend to be the ones with interesting, obscure music that I wouldn't be able to download from YouTube. Forced to compromise.

Yep. I've digitized some of my older tapes. The audio quality might not be the best, but I can work with it. I don't worry about that part as much as I used to; I'm gonna enjoy the music anyway. It's good to get 'em digitized, because the tapes are only gonna continue to deteriorate.

Audacity has worked out good for me. I spent a little time looking at Audacity's documentation, and that helped a lot. The latest manual is available at https://manual.audacityteam.org/.

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#5993 2020-11-15 02:20:31

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

MALsPa wrote:

The audio quality might not be the best, but I can work with it. I don't worry about that part as much as I used to; I'm gonna enjoy the music anyway.

Right. smile

I really should get to work on this...


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#5994 2020-11-15 10:38:02

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

"A Love Supreme, Pt. 1 - Acknowledgement" by John Coltrane - https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=TMvbU … MvbUKqWYEs

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#5995 2020-11-15 20:48:21

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Busta Rhymes is back, and spinning the old school. Featuring Michael Jackson samples and Kendrick Lamar. Produced by Dre, brand new for 2020...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl_-3oSlWaU

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#5996 2020-11-16 01:28:43

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Hit 'em wit da Hee, Missy Elliot. 1997. Timbaland lays down one of the best rhythm tracks ever, check out 3:25 till the end at 4:19 and then argue with me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QkkcABkIR8

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#5997 2020-11-16 03:16:17

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

DJ Shadow, the title track from The Mountain Will Fall (2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oyti58LzS8

2019, Let Water Come by Ganga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWTiL2yDvoQ

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#5998 2020-11-16 03:53:01

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

I'm starting to think that Gaucho by Steely Dan (1980) is the greatest recording ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GesEA9MJuII

3:27 is genius.

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#5999 2020-11-16 04:23:19

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

For Dobbie, something less chill. Code Orange - Swallowing the Rabbit Whole (2020)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctn14oY … e=emb_logo

From the same album, Underneath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybBzQsMfFvs

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#6000 2020-11-16 04:57:35

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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Spirit - Short Edit (2020?) Very '90s Enigma/Deep Forest, but making the Sennheisers sound good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udbESpIvpik

1998, The Air I Breathe by Badmarsh and Shri

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCkkFq5pnic

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