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#1 2015-09-28 23:54:48

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BunsenLabs Debian Repository

(Click here for the original thread on the #! forums)

An APT Debian repository containing all the Bunsen packages is now online and available to all users.

>>> Click here for configuration instructions <<<

>>> Click here to see the repo contents <<<

The packages it contains are snapshots from git and therefore release candidates. Users who will be using the repository at the time of the official release however will get automatically upgraded to the release version.

Important notice

We have moved to our official bunsenlabs.org domain and thus the repository's URL has changed. From now on, please use the following APT configuration:

deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen main

We also have a jessie-backports repo with a couple of (obviously) backported packages; please view the repository index for a complete list:

deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian jessie-backports main

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Our repository is being served from our distro server which is generously sponsored by the NetCup hosting company from Karlsruhe, Germany. Many thanks for the support.

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Edit: 2015-07-27: Link to the repository landing page for setup instructions; add sponsorship note
Edit: 2015-08-01: Announce switch to pkg.bunsenlabs.org
Edit: 2015-08-12: Announce switch of repo layout and repo URL.
Edit: 2015-09-03: Add link to repo index
Edit: 2015-09-17: Retire legacy repository
Edit: 2015-12-04: Include config for backports repo


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#2 2015-12-03 15:12:49

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

yad has arrived in BL. damo is going to rewrite some of our scripts (or already has done so) to use it.


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#3 2015-12-03 15:43:07

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

twoion wrote:

yad has arrived in BL. damo is going to rewrite some of our scripts (or already has done so) to use it.

Yay smile The scripts that use it are still in un-merged branches atm.


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#4 2015-12-03 16:21:50

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

I think I'll keep zenity plugged in as well.
Although for personal use - I'm like damo, been using yad for a long time now.


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#5 2015-12-04 10:05:19

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Nice switch, folks. zenity shows its age. yad rules.

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#6 2015-12-05 16:40:24

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

twoion wrote:

(Click here for the original thread on the #! forums)

An APT Debian repository containing all the Bunsen packages is now online and available to all users.

>>> Click here for configuration instructions <<<

>>> Click here to see the repo contents <<<

The packages it contains are snapshots from git and therefore release candidates. Users who will be using the repository at the time of the official release however will get automatically upgraded to the release version.

Important notice

We have moved to our official bunsenlabs.org domain and thus the repository's URL has changed. From now on, please use the following APT configuration:

deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen main

We also have a jessie-backports repo with a couple of (obviously) backported packages; please view the repository index for a complete list:

deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian jessie-backports main

--
Our repository is being served from our distro server which is generously sponsored by the NetCup hosting company from Karlsruhe, Germany. Many thanks for the support.

http://s4.postimg.org/6naecnx0p/netcup_logo.png

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Edit: 2015-07-27: Link to the repository landing page for setup instructions; add sponsorship note
Edit: 2015-08-01: Announce switch to pkg.bunsenlabs.org
Edit: 2015-08-12: Announce switch of repo layout and repo URL.
Edit: 2015-09-03: Add link to repo index
Edit: 2015-09-17: Retire legacy repository
Edit: 2015-12-04: Include config for backports repo

All changes will be included in final release right ? Too bad that final version is scheduled days/weeks after new year ...

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#7 2015-12-05 16:46:51

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

Yes.

Every user running BL is getting continuously updated by way of our package repository though, so you wouldn't miss out on anything if you were to just install from the last RC ISO.


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#8 2015-12-06 01:24:41

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With deep respect for all of the work, made the switch this evening.

Runs very smooth, added only (2) new packages.

Great work people!!

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#9 2015-12-06 08:06:13

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^Hey that sounds like me. smile The only difference is that I am running RC1 since quite a while now. Very smooth, very thankful for your hard work devs.


Keep BunsenLabs #!yish please.

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#10 2015-12-23 04:50:31

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

ceni

The ceni network manager is now available in its latest version 2015.07.06 in the BL jessie-backports repository. It is a simple, straightforward tool for managing network interfaces using the /etc/network/interfaces configuration interface, the standard way of doing networking on Debian machines.

A Curses user interface for configuring network interfaces with ifupdown.
Ceni can manage basic network interface ifupdown configuration stanzas for
ethernet and wireless devices.

Here are some pictures of the interface.

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install ceni

The package has been imported from Siduction.


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#11 2015-12-29 02:56:16

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^In case you missed my thanks in the Monthly Scrot thread...

Thanks!

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#12 2015-12-29 02:59:04

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If anyone is unclear on why or how they should switch from Network Manager to ceni, please post here. All shall be revealed.

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#13 2015-12-29 12:03:28

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

I use to use ceni - awesome app.  Others told me it didn't work for them.  In fact I think I mentioned it in the early development days of BL.  Unfortunately it's still not in the stable repos

Today I use no network manager at all: NetworkConfiguration - Debian Wiki but if I'm right 'ceni' is a CLI app that helps you do just that anyway.


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#14 2016-01-02 07:21:43

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

bunsen-python-apt-template

The package bunsen-python-apt-template is now available in the official repositories.

In the past, people experienced problems with using programs like software-properties-gtk which are based on the python-apt library. Installing bunsen-python-apt-template resolves these issues by providing additional configuration files for this library.


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#15 2016-01-21 00:32:48

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

Does it hurt anything if I keep the jessie main entries in my /etc/apt/sources.list  below the newer updated bunsen-hydrogen main?

for example:

deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian jessie main

I assume that this file is read in list order, so if I search for something it'll hit the bunsen-hydro repos first, and then if not found there work it's way down...


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#16 2016-01-21 00:49:51

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

Horizon_Brave wrote:

...
I assume that this file is read in list order,..

Generally it is best not to make assumptions!

Menu -> Help -> Debian -> Debian Reference ---> Debian Package Management

By default, the bunsen-hydrogen entry is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list. `apt-get update` should reload all the package info first, then it depends on versions and pinning what can be installed/upgraded.

Apt-get may frown a little if you have duplicate sources.


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#17 2016-01-21 02:29:47

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

damo wrote:
Horizon_Brave wrote:

...
I assume that this file is read in list order,..

Generally it is best not to make assumptions!

Menu -> Help -> Debian -> Debian Reference ---> Debian Package Management

By default, the bunsen-hydrogen entry is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list. `apt-get update` should reload all the package info first, then it depends on versions and pinning what can be installed/upgraded.

Apt-get may frown a little if you have duplicate sources.

My god you are good... I literally ran the update command and got the "duplicates" warning. It's mind boggling how you all remember and know this system inside and out.Seriously how do you keep it all in your head? I find myself forgetting and drawing blanks even with stuff I studied and went over and over...


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#18 2016-01-21 03:27:41

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

Constant reinforcement for me at least. I've been using Linux steadily now for at least 5 years. It ends up being a cumulative effect over time.

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#19 2016-01-21 07:30:16

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

Horizon_Brave wrote:

Seriously how do you keep it all in your head?

We don't
big_smile


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#20 2016-01-21 08:39:23

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^ Seriously, though, HoaS is one of our neckbeards developers, so we should expect him to know the default APT sources structure in Hydrogen.


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#21 2016-01-21 15:32:30

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pvsage wrote:

^ Seriously, though, HoaS is one of our neckbeards developers, so we should expect him to know the default APT sources structure in Hydrogen.


hehe true... I couldn't find this anywhere, but when you run an apt-get install or apt-cache, Where does apt look first? Does it check the separate /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  files first or the main /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Does the order of which it checks first matter? Will that affect any versioning issues if you have an older repo in one place, but not the other?


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#22 2016-01-21 16:49:20

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

damo repeating himself wrote:

Menu -> Help -> Debian -> Debian Reference ---> Debian Package Management

See "2.1.7. The event flow of the package management" for example.

And from

man sources.list

It is important to list sources in order of preference, with the most preferred source
       listed first. Typically this will result in sorting by speed from fastest to slowest (CD-ROM
       followed by hosts on a local network, followed by distant Internet hosts,


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#23 2016-01-21 18:19:25

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

Horizon_Brave wrote:

when you run an apt-get install or apt-cache, Where does apt look first?

It checks the APT database at /var/lib/apt/lists that is created when you run `apt-get update`

That's why you have to run that command after adding or removing repositories.


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#24 2016-01-21 22:41:10

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Horizon_Brave wrote:

when you run an apt-get install or apt-cache, Where does apt look first?

It checks the APT database at /var/lib/apt/lists that is created when you run `apt-get update`

That's why you have to run that command after adding or removing repositories.


Ooh I see... So the /etc/apt/sources.list and .../sources.list.d/  contain the pointers to the overall repos...
Then once updated each individual package IN eah of those repos is listed verbosely in /var/lib/apt/lists/...

I like how the files in there are human readable as well...very clean.  And *NOW* I see where all of the info comes from when I go and run apt-get install, like the Size, and Dependencies...

Apt is pretty darn clever...

My last question is... I see under each individual package that it specifies the Filename, like:

Filename: pool/main/b/bunsen-configs/bunsen-configs_8.6.9-1_all.deb

How does it know to pre-pend the http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian  part of it?  I don't see where that portion is provided.

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#25 2016-01-21 23:25:16

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Re: BunsenLabs Debian Repository

Oh I doubt this is your last question....  devil

Some reading for you:  How To Understand the Filesystem Layout in a Linux VPS


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