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#2751 2019-05-19 08:59:57

Martin
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My bicycle mid-January this year.

Commuting to work

/Martin

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#2752 2019-05-19 09:42:09

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why does cycling from A to B have to be a fashion show.
Every year when summer comes, i have very strong words for these prancing types.
not just the bikes, the clothing too. Branding, screaming colors, making them look like they're in the middle of the Tour de France.
and the bikes never have a bell or a simple mud fender. some don't even have brakes (!).  But you can always see the brand.
a thousand credits wasted.
fashion victims.

I ride my bike 365 days a year. I maintain it (oiling it, mostly) but I don't polish it. It has fenders, brakes, 3 (!) gears, a wire basket and puncture-resistant tires.
It was cheap, it is sturdy.
Everything I need to get to work & back home reliably, sufficiently fast, without getting dirty.
I wear clothing according to weather, not the colors of my bike or some other fahion dictum.

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#2753 2019-05-19 18:46:58

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^ Think I've mentioned it before here - it's those fashion victims that keep cycling affordable for those of use who actually train/commute. They buy a bunch of expensive kit, realize they can't become triathletes overnight, and end up selling it barely used for cheap a couple of months later. They'll still keep that Suunto or Garmin smartwatch they bought at the same time though, to keep up the facade at work or whatever. Funny people.

@hhh
Fixed gear with "aero" frame? Why is that even a thing? Why would anyone outside a Vuelta want something that stiff anyway? Anyhooz, I'd choose the Bianchi, mainly because I dislike all the other aero frames posted.

Can't load that configurator (probably some WebRTC or canvas requirement I'm not in the mood to allow right now), but I know Trek has some very good Domane alu frames that should easily get you a complete build below $1K (especially 2018 models), fixie conversion notwithstanding. Might even get you change for better tyres if you want.

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#2754 2019-05-19 19:10:58

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My first bike came from the dump.  Literally.  We had no money to spare for a bike so I scrounged arounf in the dump with a bag of tool and finding bit and pieces.  The only thing I had to buy were the tires and tubes.  And they were "Balloon Tires" to fit the only wheels I could find that were use able.  Took "days" to ballance the wheels, tightening this spoke loosening that one.

Finally it was done.  It became my trade mark!  Other kids laughed at me, but I didn't care they was "MY BIKE!" no other like it, my works, and those balloon tires they all laughed at. A lot more comfortable than those normal tires or those skinny "10 speed" tires.

Loved that bike!

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#2755 2019-05-19 22:40:39

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@martin, sweet! I have a much easier time commuting here in flat, warm Charleston!

@ohnonot and Slob-San, I am not a fashion victim (sadly, I wish I could afford to be so frivolous)! I don't even use straps because Crocs are too big for them. Man, you should have heard the kids Reeeee!!! at me at r/fixie because "No foot retention! YOU! WILL! DIE!!!!"

Bring it, I don't wear a helmet either. About 48 years of cycling now, many accidents, AC-3 separation on my left shoulder from 3 years ago (that black speed-bump is now painted safety-yellow. You're welcome, fellow Charleston citizens), no serious head injuries. The secret is to focus on cycling and remember that everything can kill you, and MOVING THINGS ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO KILL YOU. Don't let you're mind wander, that's the real killer.

Flipping x-ray tech tried to get preachy with me, asked if I was wearing my helmet. My reply,"On my shoulder?"

I'm sure those other bikes are too stiff, and I'm sure the Bianchi is pretty lovely. Pipe dreams, ATM. But these bikes, like I said, are under a thousand. It's not like you're shelling out 6-12 grand to go riding with your Spandex-clad real estate buddies on Sunday on your Pinarello or your Cervelo (<--Sweet Jebus!) rigged with Campagnolo parts, is it?

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#2756 2019-05-20 05:21:01

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^ yes but what about those dozens that pass me every day that look like they would want exactly that.
I don't care if they can actually afford it: their minds are broken, not their wallets.

and those fixie hipsters are just a different type of fashion victims.

and seriously, what does it matter if the frame is stiff or flexible. how many km do you cycle each day? me, 20 (5 days a week), and to me it doesn't matter at all.
S11: I still spend as little as possible on bikes (only exception: puncture-proof tires, a soft saddle, machine oil). not from the actual garbage dump, not actually screwing them together from scratch; but abandoned bicycles, flea markets etc. I'm not big on repairs.

busting myths:

  • constant full-blown maintenance (read: polishing) will not get you anything except a shiny, clean bike for better strutting.

  • the time you save with racing bike feature XYZ is absolutely minimal. IDK, you might save some energy; which you then have to burn in a muscle factory, or jogging, so what's the point.

  • the time you save through losing weight by getting rid of such essential things like mud fenders, a bell and brakes is even less, and makes your experience so much worse. don't underestimate the usefulness of a bell when cycling in populated areas.

  • a fixed-wheel bike has no advantage at all except for circus artists.

all in all, this is the same thing that car people do, only on a slightly more sublime level. ego feeding: look, mine's more ***** than yours.

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#2757 2019-05-20 06:13:00

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ohnonot wrote:
  • a fixed-wheel bike has no advantage at all except for circus artists.

I'll argue you to the death on this point. In the town I live (flat, the lowcountry is Holland-flat), derailleurs are for idiots. Keep it simple stupid. No gears means quieter. No gears means less chain binds, less moving parts, less cabling. No gears means less problems. Man, I hope I never hear the chatter of a freewheel under my shoes ever again.

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#2758 2019-05-20 06:28:40

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Pics, I went to the cemetery after riding home from work. It's a 4 minute ride on back roads by wetlands to watch the sunset, so lovely...

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^My new party spot, the city's recycling dump is behind the fence on the right, the cranes in the distance are for the river traffic.

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#2759 2019-05-20 07:35:11

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@hhh to be honest, I like the look of your current bike more than any of those links you posted!

My motivation for only doing minimal maintenance on my ugly 12-year-old road bike is to reduce the risk of it being stolen! All original parts, I've only changed the tyres and brake pads, doing anything from 0 to 70km per week.

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#2760 2019-05-20 07:38:04

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hhh wrote:

https://cdn.scrot.moe/images/2019/05/20/20190519_192556.md.jpg

^My new party spot, the city's recycling dump is behind the fence on the right, the cranes in the distance are for the river traffic.

Shameless selfie or it didn't happen...

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#2761 2019-05-20 09:06:22

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hhh wrote:

Pics,

I like how soft the light is. It's so hills-are-alive-with-the-sound-of-music.
Where I live, the daytime is more like wicked-witch-meeeeeltiiiiiing. >_<

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#2762 2019-05-20 16:27:52

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Going to the local cemetery for a bicycle photo?
:-)

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#2763 2019-05-20 18:03:49

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^ Most peaceful place in town, since everyone's dead.

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#2764 2019-05-21 06:28:40

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Jimbo_G wrote:

@hhh to be honest, I like the look of your current bike more than any of those links you posted!

word!

PS:
hhh, brave to post a picture of your actual self! I like it. I'd have imagined you different somehow. Words can only convey that much.

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#2765 2019-05-26 10:23:28

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^Speaking of selfies. :-)
Went to the countryside yesterday and something bit me on the nose.
Some insect or a spider, and the nose is so swollen. I look like Obelix today. :-D

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#2766 2019-05-26 21:51:26

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I was making fun of my look but it was a serious allergic reaction. The swelling has bad. Had to see the doctor.

The folks in the village think some fly bit me. They nicknamed  it "Clinton's" most likely after that US president that bombed us.

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#2767 2019-05-27 02:08:33

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For a second, I thought this was BikeForums! wink

I bought an SS CX bike in the Bay Area years ago and brought it when we moved across the country. After 5 years of commuting on it here, I finally gave in and snapped up an old Trek SU100 on Craigslist. It's pretty hilly here. After rebuilding it, I have the SS, the SU100 as an 8-speed, and another CX bike built as a 9-speed. Down with front derailleurs.


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#2768 2019-05-30 09:57:08

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Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users: . Time do ditch Chromium (and Edge) and come back to Firefox, the last remaining alternative with significant development resources that can run on all OSs (anybody who is still using Chrome/Chromium). Been a FF person myself since the early 2000s.


Via.

This issue has been known for some time but there was still a lot of discussion going on, with input from gorhill (ublock origin developer) and other high-profile people. Google isn't having any of it, so it comes down to this.


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#2769 2019-05-30 12:19:33

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^ Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

I only used Chrome (or Chromium, to be precise) for a very short spell. Something like 3 months, iirc. I think it was during a time Firefox/Iceweasel got so slow I started calling it Slow-assWeasel when referring to it on the old #! forums. Aside from that short excursion (and a few failed flings with the likes of midori, qutebrowser, uzbl, xombrero, etc), I've probably been a FF user since the death of Netscape. I won't call FF the best browser, just the least worst - it's still spyware, but at least we can neuter it.

I do hope at least some Chrome users jump ship to FF (or one of its Gecko-powered forks), if only too loosens the webkit/blink deathgrip on the web. Maybe FF can win back some of the users it bled during the recent extensions-certificate-expiry debacle.

A good time to be selling Pi-hole boxes/kits, I reckon.

Edit:
True story - there's this payment portal here that won't load of FF (even with user agent switching) no matter what, and only insists on Chrome or IE (gulp). The good thing is that it's a once-a-year payment, so I just drive down and do it the old fashioned way. Everyone seems to do it online (via either chrome or an even worse smartphone app that's themed from the pre-iOS7 days), so the staff tend to look at me like I'm some sort of luddite when I'm there. Maybe I'll yell "fornicatoooorrrs" like some crazy Amish the next time I'm there.

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#2770 2019-05-30 16:12:41

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glittersloth wrote:

Firefox/Iceweasel got so slow I started calling it Slow-assWeasel

FrozenWeasel big_smile

I won't call FF the best browser, just the least worst - it's still spyware, but at least we can neuter it.

it's only too true.
must use ghacksuserjs.

Also big G seems to be better at the public opinion game: it's slippery as an eel, it's hard to say anything bad about it. but if you care to dig, and discard what is considered The Cool Rant On The Net Today, it's actually worse than FF in every privacy/configurability respect.
People just lap up Google's convenient lie about being good because they're (mostly) OpenSource.
When in reality they invented the rape of Open Source.
(And being secure because they have full control about what data leaves your bubble.)

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#2771 2019-05-30 16:18:04

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twoion wrote:

Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users: . Time do ditch Chromium (and Edge) and come back to Firefox, the last remaining alternative with significant development resources that can run on all OSs (anybody who is still using Chrome/Chromium). Been a FF person myself since the early 2000s.


Via.

This issue has been known for some time but there was still a lot of discussion going on, with input from gorhill (ublock origin developer) and other high-profile people. Google isn't having any of it, so it comes down to this.

Sad, as Chrome(ium) is pretty darn fast compared to FF. If adblocking is crippled, then I won't be using Chrome on my phone as it gets real slow with the plethora of ads downloading over my weak data connection. I do hope Mozilla will keep true to form and not play the same game as Google.


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#2772 2019-05-30 20:31:11

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What I'd like to know definitively is if Chromium is going to get the same change as Chrome, because if so, I guess I will have to return to FF.


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#2773 2019-05-30 21:00:49

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glittersloth wrote:

Edit:
True story - there's this payment portal here that won't load of FF (even with user agent switching) no matter what, and only insists on Chrome or IE (gulp). The good thing is that it's a once-a-year payment, so I just drive down and do it the old fashioned way. Everyone seems to do it online (via either chrome or an even worse smartphone app that's themed from the pre-iOS7 days), so the staff tend to look at me like I'm some sort of luddite when I'm there. Maybe I'll yell "fornicatoooorrrs" like some crazy Amish the next time I'm there.

Glitter, you have never, and I mean N E V E R  ceased to get a chuckle or two out of me.

Which is really good when the truth hurts.


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#2774 2019-05-31 02:13:43

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bigbenaugust wrote:

What I'd like to know definitively is if Chromium is going to get the same change as Chrome, because if so, I guess I will have to return to FF.

Why won't Chromium "get the same change as Chrome"? It will.


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#2775 2019-05-31 04:10:18

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glittersloth wrote:

Maybe I'll yell "fornicatoooorrrs" like some crazy Amish the next time I'm there.

What, did you watch Witness recently? You are very plain, Sloth. Very plain. Now get in the silo.

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