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#2676 2019-03-18 00:07:26

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nore wrote:

I would have been content with a 100 euro Android phone to replace that old sturdy Nokia dumb-phone that was in use before.

Functionally no doubt, there's more to work phones though, what's your employers position on the fact that cheaper alternative would likely have gone unpatched its entire lifetime?  They may have stumped up the extra because they know apple will keep that brick patched.

As an individual I'd for sure risk the cheap phone, as an employer maybe not so much.

Just a thought.


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#2677 2019-03-18 00:11:04

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Does a dumb phone need updates/patches - by definition surely they don't need it? My little pocket clamshell has no web capability - just voice and text.


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#2678 2019-03-18 00:14:17

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They don't get updates, that doesn't mean they'll never need them, there are known vulnerabilities in the phone/sms stuff too, the attack surface is way bigger the moment you also graft on Android or iOS though.


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#2679 2019-03-18 01:21:17

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Or his BP is not iBP

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#2680 2019-03-18 07:40:38

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Bearded_Blunder wrote:
nore wrote:

I would have been content with a 100 euro Android phone to replace that old sturdy Nokia dumb-phone that was in use before.

Functionally no doubt, there's more to work phones though, what's your employers position on the fact that cheaper alternative would likely have gone unpatched its entire lifetime?  They may have stumped up the extra because they know apple will keep that brick patched.

As an individual I'd for sure risk the cheap phone, as an employer maybe not so much.

Just a thought.

My cheap android phone (99€) got an upgrade to android 9 go.
They changed the CPU scaling governor to "performance" which made all the processor cores run at maximum and battery drain high. Hoping they will change this but.. that's not the topic here.
Phone gets security patch every month.

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#2681 2019-03-18 07:52:36

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damo wrote:

Does a dumb phone need updates/patches - by definition surely they don't need it? My little pocket clamshell has no web capability - just voice and text.

They do need it, namely if the firmware has bugs.

For example, I was using a Motorola e770 feature phone from ~2005 all to 2013, the phone did what it was supposed to do, however there were obvious bugs in e.g. the WAP browser.

The firmware was never updated, and the bugs are forever (still have the phone).

However, it must be said that the quality of the firmwares was in general much better than what is shipping on smartphones today (at least with the big brands). Esp. Sony went miles down in quality when they switched to making Android phones when compared to the Sony-Ericsson 'W' feature phone line, as did Nokia when they ran their Symbian phones into the ground, as did Siemens. It really is a shame that we got used to getting fed mediocre software that barely runs on a good day.


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#2682 2019-03-20 13:55:15

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damo wrote:

Does a dumb phone need updates/patches - by definition surely they don't need it? My little pocket clamshell has no web capability - just voice and text.

None of them (afaik) will get updates the "over-the-air" way smartphones do, if that's what you're asking. Some Nokias of old could be updated via their supplied usb-to-proprietary cable with some convoluted method (which probably only worked with MS Windows anyway). Some would need to be brought in to an authorized service center.

I remember this old Sony-Ericsson phone I had that required some fixing under warranty. Upon collection, the rep said they updated the firmware at the same time and showed the new version number on the screen via some cryptic combination of button presses. I proceeded to ask him if there was any button-press combo to initiate God Mode? He declined to answer. The bastid!

nore wrote:

Not only blood pressure, but during the very first hour using it, it evoked unstable, impulsive behavior as well.

Apple will gladly sell you a subscription for a breathing app. Only requirement is money.

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#2683 2019-03-20 14:50:09

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glittersloth wrote:

showed the new version number on the screen via some cryptic combination of button presses. I proceeded to ask him if there was any button-press combo to initiate God Mode?

Don't worry, service codes are still part and parcel of today's mobile handset experience! There are OS-specific ones, there are USSD ones, and some vendors add their 'proprietary'/uncommon codes.

Esp. the GSM USSD codes still work on all carriers and all handsets in Germany, regardless of the phone network (2G/3G/4G).

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#2684 2019-03-20 15:20:09

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This is why I enjoy these forums.

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#2685 2019-03-30 16:43:31

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I've been using Linux for over a decade, why did I only learn this morning that...

clear

... clears a terminal?  ops

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#2686 2019-03-30 16:58:08

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hhh wrote:

I've been using Linux for over a decade, why did I only learn this morning that...

clear

... clears a terminal?  ops

I habitually just use ctrl+l. All the time.


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#2687 2019-03-30 18:51:05

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I've been using Linux for over a decade, why did I only learn this afternoon that Ctrl+l clears a terminal?  ops

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#2688 2019-03-30 19:32:30

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I've been using Linux for over a decade, why did I only learn this afternoon
- that when i forgot to put sudo in front of a command i can use the arrow up key to bring the command back, navigate to the beginning of the line and type sudo in front. Right?

- or i can just type sudo !!

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#2689 2019-03-30 19:42:32

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hhh wrote:

I've been using Linux for over a decade, why did I only learn this afternoon that Ctrl+l clears a terminal?  ops

Cuz you didn't read: 40+ Most Used Linux Terminal Commands

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#2690 2019-03-30 23:34:00

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

I've been using Linux for over a decade and I have no idea how much I don't know!

Sounds like an interesting topic to start..."I've been using Linux for over a decade and I have no idea how [insert example ignorance here] " smile


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#2691 2019-03-31 04:45:19

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damo wrote:

Sounds like an interesting topic to start

Do it.

I've been using Linux for over a decade but still can't distinguish lower case L from capital I in a sans font by sight. That's why I tried Ctrl+I first.

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#2692 2019-03-31 07:17:55

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Ill vibe, Tip, yo yo word...

Ill vibe. monkey

-edit- IV Vibe, Bus, I caught that IV vibe, yo yo word.

Now that's good comedy, I don't care who you are. +M good.

Busta's debut album, 1996 (nsfw)...

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#2693 2019-03-31 11:52:01

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A little joke with a friend on a social network.
https://i.imgur.com/Z2l6f0w.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/urHaTgo.png

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#2694 2019-03-31 13:25:41

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Awesome photo!

@Sector, I've seen a hundred guides like that, I think I always got stuck on rm commands and never made it to Ctrl+l. tongue

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#2695 2019-04-01 09:42:54

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Art by Simon Stålenhag was posted on the wallpaper thread a couple of weeks ago. I see that he has produced some art books, they look well worth checking out:

For example, the Electric State:

In late 1997, a runaway teenager and her small yellow toy robot travel west through a strange American landscape where the ruins of gigantic battle drones litter the countryside, along with the discarded trash of a high-tech consumerist society addicted to a virtual-reality system. As they approach the edge of the continent, the world outside the car window seems to unravel at an ever faster pace, as if somewhere beyond the horizon, the hollow core of civilization has finally caved in.

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#2696 2019-04-02 03:13:29

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Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom. The Undersea Wold of Jacques Cousteau. Cosmos with Carl Sagan. Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood. Monty Python's Flying Circus. SNL and the Not Ready For Prime Time Players.

I'm old, I grew up with these TV programs. And later, Blue Planet with Sir David Attenborough, The Simpsons and, in the last decade, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia (the greatest American sitcom of all time). I saw Star Wars, Alien, Blade Runner, Empire Strikes Back and Dune in the theaters when they were released (my buddy and I almost walked out of Dune, it was a difficult decision. We laughed at some of the so-called special-effects, the ships leaving Dune was particularly awful, but what was really killing us was the boring, repetitive soundtrack by Toto. We stayed, I'm glad in retrospect). I've seen attack ships off the shoulder of Orion.

But nothing, I mean no video ever, has put as big a smile on my face as the catalog of films that these three old pillocks with their fast cars have produced.

The Grand Tour. The greatest car show...


In the world.

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Orangutan, Hamster, Captain Slowly, I salute you.

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#2697 2019-04-02 19:29:18

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^I've read that there will be a remake of Dune next year. smile

Noisy and dirty little fan in an old power supply.
https://i.imgur.com/RIneRcq.jpg

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#2698 2019-04-03 05:32:33

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^ looks bad.
i hope you can fix it.
btw if your computer makes noises, it can be very difficult to locate where they actually come from.
i thought i had a loud PSU fan, then i realised it was really some sort of coil or condensator whine but was never able to pinpoint the element causing it.

had to replace the whole power supply.

and there's another story about using recycled parts - i took the new PSU (*) from a discarded gaming machine (along with a 500GB hard drive that, according to SMART, still has plenty of life in it) - been using both for over a year now. silence is bliss.

(*) the old, noisy one was purchased!

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#2699 2019-04-03 18:08:59

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misko_2083 wrote:

^I've read that there will be a remake of Dune next year. smile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(2020_film)

Directed by the man who did Blade Runner 2049, Denis Villeneuve. I'm excited, I don't think hell make a film that is worse than David Lynch's, and I love that disaster of a movie!

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#2700 2019-04-04 16:19:58

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ohnonot wrote:

^ looks bad.
i hope you can fix it.
btw if your computer makes noises, it can be very difficult to locate where they actually come from.
i thought i had a loud PSU fan, then i realised it was really some sort of coil or condensator whine but was never able to pinpoint the element causing it.

had to replace the whole power supply.

and there's another story about using recycled parts - i took the new PSU (*) from a discarded gaming machine (along with a 500GB hard drive that, according to SMART, still has plenty of life in it) - been using both for over a year now. silence is bliss.

(*) the old, noisy one was purchased!

It was easy to fix, just had to find the right hammer. big_smile

Cleaned it and added some car grease, it runs well.

The fans for GPU's are harder to fix.
I bought a used radeon graphics card.
It had the two small, however very loud fans.
They didn't even have holes in the back.
I suspect the manufacturer makes them like that on purpose.
Some spray that is supposed to fix them didn't help.
Checked the prices of the new ones. With shipping fans would cost as much as the card bought.

I carefully drilled the holes in the center of each fan's back until the axle is reached.
Added some oil in each drilled hole and let it run for some time. (*)
They run fine since then.

(*) Did that sentence sound right? big_smile

hhh wrote:
misko_2083 wrote:

^I've read that there will be a remake of Dune next year. smile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(2020_film)

Directed by the man who did Blade Runner 2049, Denis Villeneuve. I'm excited, I don't think hell make a film that is worse than David Lynch's, and I love that disaster of a movie!

I hope so.
In the wikipedia it says it may be split into two films.
That will be a good idea.
In the original film, the events were packed like the sardines.
Like there was not enough film stock.
New film will have great visual effects. Not sure about the cast.

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